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Tokyo Narita (NRT) 30th Birthday  
User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2971 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2586 times:

Today marks its 30th anniversary.
The early years were quite turbulent marked with protests, riots, and sabotage.
To mark the date, SQ is inaugurating A380 service.
Who know what's in store for the next few years, but for one thing the status quo will not stand for much longer.

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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

All I know is that I wouldn't ANY food from that farmer who is still working his lot in the middle of runway 34R. I can't imagine how much Carbon Monoxide has blown through there, not to mention fuel leaks over 30 years.

On the other hand, congratulations to Narita!! Hopefully your future will continue to get better!!



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User currently offlineJumboForever From Japan, joined Jul 2005, 200 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

SQ636 due to arrive today to celebrate has been reported diverted due to weather.
I saw on TV it was enroute to KIX but SQ's website shows diverted to NGO.

Any info?


User currently offlineBoeing764 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

I love that airport, it is a plane spotters dream! Viewing facilities on each terminal, an aviation museum at the south end of 34L/16R, Sakura Noyama park next to the approach for 16R and I'm sure there are lots of other places around it that I didn't discover during my 2 years living in Tokyo.

Here's a photo I took from the observation deck on Terminal 1
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One I took from the north observation deck on Terminal 2
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And one I took at Sakura Noyama Koen (Park)
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Photo © Mark Heywood




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User currently offlineBoeing764 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2519 times:



Quoting JumboForever (Reply 2):
SQ636 due to arrive today to celebrate has been reported diverted due to weathe

Narita's website shows flight SQ636 operated by the A380, due at 0830 but delayed to 0905.



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User currently offlineBoeing764 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2509 times:



Quoting Boeing764 (Reply 4):
Narita's website shows flight SQ636 operated by the A380, due at 0830 but delayed to 0905.

Now it's showing "indefinite" in SQ636's status on Narita's website.
Singapore Airlines' website shows the flight arrived in Nagoya at 0914 and is due to depart for Narita at 1015 and arrive at 1115.



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User currently offlineGrude1087 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2389 times:



Quoting Boeing764 (Reply 5):
Now it's showing "indefinite" in SQ636's status on Narita's website.
Singapore Airlines' website shows the flight arrived in Nagoya at 0914 and is due to depart for Narita at 1015 and arrive at 1115.

Probably delayed due to the typhoon blowing through here right now? It was really windy this morning.


User currently offlineBoeing764 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2350 times:



Quoting Grude1087 (Reply 6):
Probably delayed due to the typhoon blowing through here right now? It was really windy this morning.

Japanese news station FNN
is showing flight 636 arriving at Nagoya, and confirm that it was diverted there due to the high winds at Narita.



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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

On the heels of NRT's 30th anniversary, Japanese Ministry of Transport is set to announce intercontinental flights will start from HND in 2010. However, slots will be alloted for non-peak hours only approximately 2300-0600 local.
I am sure NAA and Chiba-prefecture will protest.

The times will be ideal for Japanese carriers but not so for foreign carriers. For foreign long-haul flights flights will have to arrive early morning, sit all day at HND, and depart in the evening. Parking fees aren't exactly cheap in Japan either. However, I am sure carriers who have no landing rights in Tokyo such as EK & QR will be quick to the gun bringing their most capable aircraft.


User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

I flew into Narita as a foreign exchange student just after it opened. There were riot police and armed personnel carriers everywhere. I'll never forget wondering just what kind of country i was going to be spending the year in.


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User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2031 times:



Quoting Carpethead (Reply 8):
Japanese Ministry of Transport is set to announce intercontinental flights will start from HND in 2010

So this goes beyond the former boundary of Hong Kong? Well since EK and QR comes in, then people will just start moving at nighttime, rather than day-time to avoid NRT.



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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1970 times:



Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 10):
So this goes beyond the former boundary of Hong Kong?

Correct. Actually the boundary is the longest domestic sector which would be Tokyo-Ishigakijima.
CX has operated some charters this spring and all have arrived in the morning and departed in the evening. The aircraft stays on the ground for the 14-16 hours. This would be the pattern for any flights operating beyond the perimeter.
These flights would work well on Japan-European, SE Asia, & Australia routes because of time zone issues.
The slot hours for Transpac flight would not be ideal but could be doable such as HND-LAX.
For example (summer schedule):
NHxxx HND-LAX 2330-1730 77W
NHxxx LAX-HND 0115-0455+1 77W


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

Happy birthday to you
New runway overdue
30 years of a gateway
NAA has no clue.

Happy birthday Narita!

I live in Japan. Have lived here for 8 years but have only flown out through the airport 2 times. In 2000 I arrived at T2 on JL. 2007 flew NW on NRT-MSP. I have picked up people there but in most cases I try to avoid the place.

Still nice place to take pictures. (not as nice as the NGO observation deck though).

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 11):
Correct.

About time!

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 11):
These flights would work well on Japan-European, SE Asia, & Australia routes because of time zone issues.

These are the flights that get more movement anyways and for the business person, well...
7:00 leave work
7:30 get dinner
9:00 Check-in at the airport
23:00 depart for destination
Sleep on the plane
Arrive the next morning ready for the meeting.
Leave in the evening arriving back in Japan in the early morning ready to go back to work!
I am tired just thinking about it.

But also this would be great for connecting domestic to international. I won't do it but that is because you can't fly NGO-HND.



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineLHboyatDTW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1909 times:

お誕生日おめでとう ございます 成田!

Happy Birthday, Narita! I can hardly believe it's been that long. It feels like it's been there for eternity, but then again it opened up before I was born so what do I know.

What can we expect in the future? Hopefully that ARN flight SK is pushing for?


User currently offlineJet-lagged From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 874 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1830 times:



Quoting Centrair (Reply 12):
I live in Japan. Have lived here for 8 years but have only flown out through the airport 2 times. In 2000 I arrived at T2 on JL. 2007 flew NW on NRT-MSP. I have picked up people there but in most cases I try to avoid the place.

Wow! if you don't mind my asing, how is it that you've you've been through it only twice? Do you fly out of Osaka, or tend to jump to Korea or other Asian countries before longhauls? I assume that at least once a year you leave the country . . . . .


User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1791 times:



Quoting Jet-lagged (Reply 14):
Do you fly out of Osaka, or tend to jump to Korea or other Asian countries before longhauls?

Well, can't he fly out of NGO instead? If you look at his profile and his screen name, its gotta to be quite obvious don't you think? Well, sadly (expectedly though) KIX would only have 2 transpacific flights now. UA to SFO and NW to DFW. Congratulations to a hub airport that never happened and lets see how that place would do when it is 2024.

Yeah but congrats to NRT, but I see their age as ending. No airline is going to want to NRT and no passenger unless they live in Chiba prefecture is going to want to use the airport once HND gets its act together.



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User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1595 times:



Quoting Jet-lagged (Reply 14):
Wow! if you don't mind my asing, how is it that you've you've been through it only twice? Do you fly out of Osaka, or tend to jump to Korea or other Asian countries before longhauls? I assume that at least once a year you leave the country . . . . .

Ktachiya pointed it out I am from NGO which has international flights. I can fly via ICN but that is actually not as convenient as flying direct.

I am from MSP so I have basically two ways to get home without touching NRT.
1) NGO-DTW-MSP
2) NGO-SFO-DEN-MSP

Last winter my wife and I decided that flying NGO-NRT-MSP would be easier when traveling with our then 18 month old daughter. We figured better to make transits when we are not jet-lagged. We decided that this way works well for a family.

UA has a great flight but if you are from MSP, you have to make two transits which is not so appealing.

When NGO opened, there was a 3rd choice with AA to ORD but that shut down after only 3 months. I can also fly on CO via GUM and HNL but then would have to change to NW.



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