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DCA 30-Minute Seat Belt Reg  
User currently offlineSeeTheWorld From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1325 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

When was the DCA 30-minute seat belt regulation lifted? And how were pilots reminded to enforce it during that period, i.e. NOTAM?

I flew to DCA on Spirit yesterday from FLL, and not only did the pilots enforce the rule, but they said it was a 60-minute rule. As I left the aircraft, I mentioned to the pilot that the 30-minute seat regulation was lifted years ago. He mentioned this was his first flight into DCA, and didn't realize it. He was very nice and thanked me for informing him. Since I live in DC, I fly in and out of DCA every month or so, and this is the first time a pilot has enforced that non-existant regulation since it was lifted. Has anyone else had this experience?

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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

July 2005:

http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2005/press_release_0607.shtm

Of course the 30 minute rule is somewhat a non-issue, since the seatbelt sign is usually on at that time before landing anyway.


Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineSeeTheWorld From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1325 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2582 times:

Thanks Jimbo. It was longer ago than I had thought.

User currently offlineCatIII From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3057 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2468 times:



Quoting SeeTheWorld (Thread starter):

I've had it happen recently as well or variations on that theme; one time it was 45 minutes, and another time on UA the pilots said that because of TSA security rules, passengers flying in and out of DCA were forbidden to use the first class lav, even if you were in first class. I get the sense that airlines don't communicate changes in the rules that well.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2427 times:



Quoting CatIII (Reply 3):

Not only that, some people like to make up their own rules.

I've flown into and out of DCA at least 9 times since the regulation was listed and never heard the crew enforce this non existent rule.



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineGriffAir From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2388 times:



Quoting CatIII (Reply 3):
I get the sense that airlines don't communicate changes in the rules that well.

SOME airlines don't get it because their operations support organization just doesn't keep up and their communication with operations /dispatch is dismal to unprofessional. Other airlines GOT IT, when they were supposed to, communicated it to all that needed to know, and do not enforce the discarded regulation.
 Wink


User currently offlineCRJ200FAGuy From United States of America, joined May 2007, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2094 times:



Quoting Bond007 (Reply 1):
Of course the 30 minute rule is somewhat a non-issue, since the seatbelt sign is usually on at that time before landing anyway.


Jimbo

Because no one ever gets up when the seatbelt sign is on.  Smile


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2044 times:



Quoting CRJ200FAGuy (Reply 6):
Because no one ever gets up when the seatbelt sign is on.

Oh, silly me .... what was I thinking. It's almost a signal TO get out of the seat, just like 'turn off all electronic equipment' seems to be the trigger for some to make that 'really' important phone call to the wife.

Actually, it's like watching a bunch of 5-year olds being told to do something by their parents. The women sitting next to me yesterday actually hid her Blackberry every time the F/A walked past, and then got it out again and read her email when he wasn't looking ... she giggled to me, and I replied that I didn't find it funny at all!


Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

Twice when I was flying DFW-DCA back in 2002 someone violated the rule and we were diverted to IAD. Very annoying -- both times the plane was isolated and police boarded to escort the violator off.


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