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Air Niugini Going For 747's + 787's  
User currently offlineZkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1726 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 14113 times:

came across this , a bit bigger then the 767 they already use,

''It is an exciting time for Air Niugini, as General Manager Marketing Colin Lyttle, pointed out, noting that the arrival of the first flagship 747 and the future order of a 787 reflected the commitment from the government to the infrastructure of the airline.''

full artical can be looked at here;

http://www.etravelblackboard.com/showarticle.asp?nav=2&id=77859


CZ 787 to AKL can't wait.
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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 13981 times:

What do they want a 747 for!?

Even the 767 is too big if it wasn't for the freight. They ideally want a 767 combi if one exists.



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4867 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 13833 times:

why on earth do Air Niugini want or need a 747 for?
787 maybe but really the most they will ever be is a small regional airline needing 737 sized aircraft to fly to Australia, Taiwan, Indonesia and other nearby countries.



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User currently offlineMiami1 From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 13812 times:

Just another example of a third world bankrupt nation pouring wasted funds into a non-entity instead of feeding and educating its people. I would hardly call the Niugini tourist industry thriving or hardly evan existent.

User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3403 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 13747 times:

So I'm assuming that this is second-hand 744 that they've picked up not an order for the 748I?

User currently offlineMCOGVADCA From China, joined Oct 2006, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 13462 times:

Port Moresby...the next Dubai. You heard it here first.

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 4):
ust another example of a third world bankrupt nation pouring wasted funds into a non-entity instead of feeding and educating its people. I would hardly call the Niugini tourist industry thriving or hardly evan existent.

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User currently offlineDJ748 From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 13425 times:

What the? The 787 I can understand, but the 747 is way over the top. The 787 could be useful on their flights to NRT and would open up other non-stop destinations like maybe PVG or even DXB.....

User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 13407 times:

Im taking bets that they get rid of it within a year of getting it!

User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1763 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 13094 times:



Quoting Zkojh (Thread starter):
noting that the arrival of the first flagship 747

They have a new delivery of a 767, that is as far as I know. Never heard of anything about a 747, and does the runway at POM take a 747? Has the press got it wrong again?!

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 1):
What do they want a 747 for!?

Even the 767 is too big if it wasn't for the freight. They ideally want a 767 combi if one exists.



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 2):
why on earth do Air Niugini want or need a 747 for?
787 maybe but really the most they will ever be is a small regional airline needing 737 sized aircraft to fly to Australia, Taiwan, Indonesia and other nearby countries.

I flew HKG-MNL-POM and POM-MNL-HKG with PX in April, the A310 was packed full between MNL and POM both ways. A 767 passenger is probably the right size, but a 767 combi won't work for them.

Quoting Miami1 (Reply 3):
I would hardly call the Niugini tourist industry thriving or hardly evan existent.

Most tourists to PNG come from Australia. You are right that it is one of the least visited country for tourists. I was probably the only tourist on board the PX flights I took last month (HKG-MNL-POM-HGU-POM-MNL-HKG).

Quoting CV580Freak (Reply 8):
Don't they still eat each other there

Not anymore. Most Papua New Guineans would take that statement as an insult. Indeed, they are one of the friendliest people on earth. Crime is bad, but people are very helpful.


User currently offlineQantas787 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12908 times:

I think this is just a belated April Fool joke. It just has to be. There are some real clowns out there masquerading as airline CEO's but this one takes it to the next level. Can't you just see it, happy they have placed their 90 seater, now what to do with the 400 seater?

User currently offline787KQ From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11314 times:

Very amusing! Somebody is smoking something. The airline could use some redundancy by getting an additional 767 rather than adding a 747, which makes no sense.

An unfortunately, PNG though not a bad place, is not tourist ready.


User currently offlineAutothrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1610 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11271 times:

Do i smell political pressure from the US = No plane, no aid?  banghead  Sad for the people, its like pressuring Tanzania to buy A380's.


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User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11024 times:



Quoting Autothrust (Reply 11):
Do i smell political pressure from the US = No plane, no aid? banghead Sad for the people, its like pressuring Tanzania to buy A380's.

What are you talking about??? They're not buying new 748s.....they're taking second hand 747s......  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineAutoThrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1610 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10961 times:

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 12):
What are you talking about??? They're not buying new 748s




Apologizes, my fault i thought we are talking about this.
Quote:

Nigerian carrier Arik Air has signed a letter of intent covering three Boeing 747-8 Intercontinentals which, if firmed, would make it only the second commercial airline to order the passenger variant.


[Edited 2008-05-21 07:17:14]


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User currently offlineOrlando666 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10406 times:

rediculous. they couldnt even fill the A310 they had some time ago, let alone 767/747.

User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10336 times:

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 13):

Apologizes, my fault i thought we are talking about this.
Quote:

Nigerian carrier Arik Air has signed a letter of intent covering three Boeing 747-8 Intercontinentals which, if firmed, would make it only the second commercial airline to order the passenger variant.

Looks like I'm the one that needs to apologize.... My bad mate! I didn't read the article, just the above posts.....All this talk about 747's lately has us all mixed up  wink 

[Edited 2008-05-21 08:31:30]


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User currently offlineUS330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3877 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10336 times:



Quoting MCOGVADCA (Reply 5):
Port Moresby...the next Dubai. You heard it here first.

I disagree...the amount of time that it would take to turn Port Moresby around to make it even resemble Dubai would be more than enough time for other Dubai-like entities to arise.

Yes, PNG has a bounty of in demand natural resources, like the gulf emirates, although slightly more diversified, but the emirates were never considered to be among the most dangerous places in the world. I can't say the same for Port Moresby, which is frequently rated among the most dangerous cities/capitals in the world.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8517 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10032 times:
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Quoting Orlando666 (Reply 14):
rediculous. they couldnt even fill the A310 they had some time ago, let alone 767/747.

The difference between an A310 and a 767 is not HUGE, it about the same may be the 767 is 10% larger.


User currently offlineMCOGVADCA From China, joined Oct 2006, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9811 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 17):
I disagree...the amount of time that it would take to turn Port Moresby around to make it even resemble Dubai would be more than enough time for other Dubai-like entities to arise.

Yes, PNG has a bounty of in demand natural resources, like the gulf emirates, although slightly more diversified, but the emirates were never considered to be among the most dangerous places in the world. I can't say the same for Port Moresby, which is frequently rated among the most dangerous cities/capitals in the world.

I was making a wee joke, my friend. Port Moresby's up there with N'Djamena and Ashgabat on the "capitals its best to avoid as an American" list.



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User currently offlineManfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9542 times:



Quoting Autothrust (Reply 11):
Do i smell political pressure from the US = No plane, no aid? Sad for the people, its like pressuring Tanzania to buy A380's.

I think that's the craziest accusation I have ever heard....you should stop listening to the BBC.



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User currently offlineVincewy From Taiwan, joined Oct 2005, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9162 times:

Wow, I must have missed out the drama here, as some messages were deleted (very amusing). I was thinking if it makes sense to go for 744 combi, slightly larger capacity than 767 but can also hold some cargos. SW did this for a while.

User currently offlineAutoThrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1610 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8895 times:



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 15):
ooks like I'm the one that needs to apologize.... My bad mate! I didn't read the article, just the above posts.....All this talk about 747's lately has us all mixed up

No worries, indeed this all has mixed us up  Smile While i still would like to see some more 747-8I orders.

Quoting Manfredj (Reply 19):

I think that's the craziest accusation I have ever heard....you should stop listening to the BBC.

Wake up, thats no accusation such things happen a lot, do a search on A.net and you will find lots of such cases also on the other side of the pond(Airbus/Air India). Most African orders are political why do you think El Al only buys Boeings even they wanted to buy A330's?  Yeah sure

Just an example:

Quote:
"Madeleine Albright, then-US Secretary of State, publicly reminded the Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak of the unique relationship that existed between the United States and Israel - and the US$3 billion annual in support. This position was later reiterated, adding that the US may review its support, would the carrier not stick to Boeing as a sole aircraft supplier."



http://www.radioislam.org/historia/zionism/israel_airbus.html



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User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 8404 times:

QF used to run 747 combis up to POM years ago, but that quikly stopped when the 767's arrived. 767 is the perfect fit for PX- need it for the cargo.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12341 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8126 times:
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Does Air Nuiginui operate the LAX? If it doesn't then maybe we could see them operating long hauls like the the USA.
Maybe just maybe the B744 is just a temporary measure till the B787s arrive


User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7816 times:



Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 21):
While i still would like to see some more 747-8I orders.

I'm with you there AutoThrust  yes .

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 21):

Just an example:

Quote:
"Madeleine Albright, then-US Secretary of State, publicly reminded the Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak of the unique relationship that existed between the United States and Israel - and the US$3 billion annual in support. This position was later reiterated, adding that the US may review its support, would the carrier not stick to Boeing as a sole aircraft supplier."

I have to say, (although I know things like this happen all over the world), it is disappointing to see such financial transactions  Sad



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25 SQ6807 : For me the most interesting thing to note about the article is the deployment of an E190 POM-SYD. That's no short distance for the E-Jet, in fact I ha
26 MotorHussy : Amazing that I couldn't find anything on the Air Niugini website about the E-190, the 747 or the 787. Isn't Sky Air World the same Australian company
27 MilesDependent : Port Moresby is not one of the more pleasant places in the world, and definitely has a serious crime problem. Although, it is definitely better now th
28 Brenintw : After the recent cash-for-recognition scandal, a very hot place will likely freeze over before this destination happens!
29 Cchan : The only international destinations PX flies to are BNE, CNS, SYD, HIR, NAN, SIN, MNL, HKG, and NRT. I can't see there're lots of Americans wanting t
30 CupraIbiza : sarcasm alert!!! PS there is no way this will get off the ground
31 Post contains links NZA320 : Correct, but I believe they where using a E-170 which was payload restricted on one of the legs and it basically became uneconomical to use on that r
32 DavidByrne : CX and NZ used to take 6-monthly turns at operating a weekly 742 service AKL-POM-HKG. Didn't last long, though.[Edited 2008-05-21 23:01:20]
33 MotorHussy : Did it last 6 months? As an aside, there is a lot of developmental and infrastructural programmes being proposed for PNG. There is even a new city wi
34 Post contains links and images StealthZ : Sure does... Have to admit the loads were pretty light.... had the run of the plane, passengers outnumbered crew but not by much!
35 DavidByrne : I think it lasted at least three turns. If I recall, NZ was struggling on AKL-HKG and this was advantageous to all three airlines - with CX and PX bo
36 Cchan : Very unfortunately, the tourism office at POM international terminal is semi-permanently closed, with just a few brochures of Loloata Resort outside
37 DJ748 : It was payload restricted on the BNE to Solomons Island leg because SkyAirWorld doesn't have the ETOPS authority that was needed for them to get arou
38 787KQ : Somewhat unsafe, but reports suggest it is a real hell hole, which is not the case. It is definitely not tourist ready as I said before but its not t
39 HSVflier : Port moresby is not the place to be at night, but during the day you can walk around as long as you don't act like a lost tourist and at least pretend
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