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SV To Get A333  
User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 870 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4989 times:

Can't find anything official, but word is that Saudia has ordered 10 Airbus A330-300 as part of fleet renewal. I expect they will provide interim lift until next gen planes ordered and delivered.

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User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4917 times:



Quoting HiJazzey (Thread starter):
Saudia has ordered 10 Airbus A330-300 as part of fleet renewal

Great news as SV needed 330 and 320 badly for very long time. 777 was too big for some sectors and their MD90's were short of range.


User currently onlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3500 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4895 times:
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If true then this is a very smart move.SV planes are starting to show there age.


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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4881 times:



Quoting HiJazzey (Thread starter):
Can't find anything official, but word is that Saudia has ordered 10 Airbus A330-300 as part of fleet renewal. I expect they will provide interim lift until next gen planes ordered and delivered.

Sure hope that does infact come to reality. The A333 would work exceptionally well for them and their route structure. Still I question if Emirates will also go down this path.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2977 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4697 times:

About time their gas guzzlers B743/B741 retire. I hope the A333 is by and large going to replace the B747's ( pre historic ones).

I think the A333 would be deployed on some sectors on Europe and maybe Indian destinations.



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User currently onlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3500 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4631 times:
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Quoting Ojas (Reply 4):
B741

SV does not operate 741



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User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4632 times:

Maybe this is one of many orders to be announced in Farnborough.

Good news indeed.

Looks to me that these will be powered by RR's. I wonder who will be happy?  Wink

Drew



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User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4613 times:



Quoting KL808 (Reply 6):
Maybe this is one of many orders to be announced in Farnborough.

In which case I woundl't be surprised to hear that this A330 order is in fact part of a much larger agreement with Airbus, including the A350XWB...  Wink

SV definitely woundn't be the first airline to order the A330/A350 combo.


User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2977 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4560 times:



Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 5):
SV does not operate 741

Yes they do , I saw one at BOM two weeks ago.

However this picture was taken at BOM end of march 2008.

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/4/8/5/56918_1206950584.jpg



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User currently offlineMSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4506 times:



Quoting HiJazzey (Thread starter):

Excellent news if true .
Any idea when they will start receiving them ?

Quoting Ojas (Reply 4):
I think the A333 would be deployed on some sectors on Europe and maybe Indian destinations

And the Middle East too , CAI-BEY-DAM,KRT...etc.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 5):
SV does not operate 741

Sure they do  Smile



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

Regarding SV's B741: better refer to "our" database:


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User currently offlineMCOGVADCA From China, joined Oct 2006, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

Wow, a sign of the times.. Ordering from Boeing used to be implicit in the alliance between the Saudis and America. With A320's and now A330's on order, one can't help but wonder if this is indicative of larger problems between the two nations.

(Not to mention these are probably better aircraft for SV, but this factor didn't influence their decision in the past!)



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4402 times:



Quoting MCOGVADCA (Reply 11):
Ordering from Boeing used to be implicit in the alliance between the Saudis and America.

Yes, I wonder how many orders Boeing hasn't got because of the worthless Bush administration. I bet that this could be one of those orders. Sure would have been nice to see an SV 738 with winglets, that plane would look excellent in the SV colors. Even the 787. I guess only time will tell. Hopefully, come November we can see a positive change. All in all though its really too bad that politics plays such a large role in certain things in the world, such as what aircraft and what not. Luckily some US carriers get what they think will work best for them, IE NW, UA etc.



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User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4364 times:



Quoting MCOGVADCA (Reply 11):
these are probably better aircraft for SV

Yes, these are the best suited aircrafts for SV. They will not repeat the mistake again (MD90) as the earlier mistake impacted them heavily, and they have to use 777 even on thinner routes as their MD90 did not have the legs to do the same.I am sure that they will order 787 in the future as it suits SV to T.

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 7):
In which case I woundl't be surprised to hear that this A330 order is in fact part of a much larger agreement with Airbus, including the A350XWB... Wink

It will be fun at Farnborough considering the line of possible orders from the region.

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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10763 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4368 times:

The 741s are 25 years and older so its about time to replace them, even in an oilproducing country. But how in the world could A333s replace a far bigger 747-100B? Thats like replacing 777s with A332s.
I wonder if SV would order some 748Is to replace those 743s in near future.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12515 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4335 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 12):
Yes, I wonder how many orders Boeing hasn't got because of the worthless Bush administration

I don't really think that came into it, certainly as far as most M/E carriers are concerned; look at how well has done out of Etihad, Emirates and Qatar over the past few years. In Saudia's case, I think the A330 was an ideal choice. It can also free up the 777s for longer haul flights, should SV wish to do that.

Quoting WINGS (Reply 3):
Still I question if Emirates will also go down this path.

There was talk, before the 350 order, that they might do so, rather like SIA did, but as yet they haven't taken the bait; maybe Airbus is still prodding them to do so. If they were to do this, they should really move quickly as the A330/340 production line is going to be very full over the next few years.


User currently onlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3500 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4265 times:
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Quoting Ojas (Reply 8):
Yes they do , I saw one at BOM two weeks ago.



Quoting MSYYZ (Reply 9):
Sure they do



Quoting N14AZ (Reply 10):
Regarding SV's B741: better refer to "our" database:

Oooops,sorry i was wrong.Thought they no longer use them.



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6824 posts, RR: 77
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4199 times:



Quoting NA (Reply 14):
But how in the world could A333s replace a far bigger 747-100B? Thats like replacing 777s with A332s.

Numerous carriers have replaced certain aircraft (especially 747s) by smaller types. I doubt SV's 747 classics have been operated with high loads all year round in the past few years. And even if - load factors don't say much about the yields.


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User currently offlineCloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

the 744s will replaces the 741s, the 777s will replace the 744s, etc. Now if they would only rationalize their route structure. Create a hub at RUH, JED, or both. SV may be able to compete with the big boys.


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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4165 posts, RR: 36
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

For a short period Flight had an article online stating that Saudia has ordered in a mix of direct and leasing orders 12 B787 and 8 A330s, apparently all already "firm orders" (whatever that means).


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User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3431 times:



Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 19):
Saudia has ordered in a mix of direct and leasing orders 12 B787 and 8 A330s, apparently all already "firm orders"



Quoting Aviationbuff (Reply 13):
Yes, these are the best suited aircrafts for SV. They will not repeat the mistake again (MD90) as the earlier mistake impacted them heavily, and they have to use 777 even on thinner routes as their MD90 did not have the legs to do the same.I am sure that they will order 787 in the future as it suits SV to T.

I was expecting SV to order 787 as it suits them very well and they should have ordered A320 and A330 long ago.


User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3303 times:



Quoting Aviationbuff (Reply 13):
they have to use 777 even on thinner routes as their MD90 did not have the legs to do the same.I am sure that they will order 787 in the future as it suits SV to T.

What the hell did they do with their A306 fleet?


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3397 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3245 times:



Quoting Aviationbuff (Reply 20):

I was expecting SV to order 787 as it suits them very well and they should have ordered A320 and A330 long ago.

They've ordered the 787 as well - see other thread currentlly running


User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

Where do they operate their 741 to and from?

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User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3135 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 22):
They've ordered the 787 as well - see other thread currentlly running

I have made a search, but could not find it. Please provide the link. Thanks in advance.


25 JoKeR : Flight Global's website
26 Post contains links Scouseflyer : It's confunsingly titled about the 787 reaching 900 sales: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4008963/
27 YAK42 : Answering myself: their 11 strong fleet is no longer with the airline and is stored all over Saudi and two have been scrapped. What was wrong with th
28 Columba : Oil is not a problem for SV As much as I hate to see the classic 747 disappear but her time is over and more economical and enviromental friendly air
29 Revelation : It is if they can't take off from Saudi with enough fuel for a round trip, unless of course they're flying to one of their OPEC buddy destinations.
30 777way : From JED, RUH and DMM: Algiers Cairo Khartoum Sanaa Tehran Colombo Dhaka Lahore From MED Kuala Lumpur Jakarta[Edited 2008-06-02 10:57:33]
31 SYDAircargo : fleet as per SV website Aircraft Type SV GOV TTL Leased TTL Boeing 747-400 05 - 05 - 05 Boeing 747-300 09 01 10 - 10 Boeing 747-100 07 - 07 - 07 Boein
32 Pilot21 : Well the A330 order has been announced by SV, an order for 8 A330's and 12 B787's for delivery from 2012 to 2014 just announced. SAUDI PLANES TO BE DE
33 Post contains links Behramjee : heres the article http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...nes-to-acquire-787s-and-a330s.html
34 Burkhard : Congrats to all three of them...
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