WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 67
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5452 times:
Quoting HiJazzey (Thread starter): Can't find anything official, but word is that Saudia has ordered 10 Airbus A330-300 as part of fleet renewal. I expect they will provide interim lift until next gen planes ordered and delivered.
Sure hope that does infact come to reality. The A333 would work exceptionally well for them and their route structure. Still I question if Emirates will also go down this path.
MCOGVADCA From China, joined Oct 2006, 488 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5020 times:
Wow, a sign of the times.. Ordering from Boeing used to be implicit in the alliance between the Saudis and America. With A320's and now A330's on order, one can't help but wonder if this is indicative of larger problems between the two nations.
(Not to mention these are probably better aircraft for SV, but this factor didn't influence their decision in the past!)
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Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7922 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4973 times:
Quoting MCOGVADCA (Reply 11): Ordering from Boeing used to be implicit in the alliance between the Saudis and America.
Yes, I wonder how many orders Boeing hasn't got because of the worthless Bush administration. I bet that this could be one of those orders. Sure would have been nice to see an SV 738 with winglets, that plane would look excellent in the SV colors. Even the 787. I guess only time will tell. Hopefully, come November we can see a positive change. All in all though its really too bad that politics plays such a large role in certain things in the world, such as what aircraft and what not. Luckily some US carriers get what they think will work best for them, IE NW, UA etc.
Yes, these are the best suited aircrafts for SV. They will not repeat the mistake again (MD90) as the earlier mistake impacted them heavily, and they have to use 777 even on thinner routes as their MD90 did not have the legs to do the same.I am sure that they will order 787 in the future as it suits SV to T.
Quoting Slz396 (Reply 7): In which case I woundl't be surprised to hear that this A330 order is in fact part of a much larger agreement with Airbus, including the A350XWB... Wink
It will be fun at Farnborough considering the line of possible orders from the region.
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NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 11576 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4939 times:
The 741s are 25 years and older so its about time to replace them, even in an oilproducing country. But how in the world could A333s replace a far bigger 747-100B? Thats like replacing 777s with A332s.
I wonder if SV would order some 748Is to replace those 743s in near future.
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 13264 posts, RR: 34
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4906 times:
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 12): Yes, I wonder how many orders Boeing hasn't got because of the worthless Bush administration
I don't really think that came into it, certainly as far as most M/E carriers are concerned; look at how well has done out of Etihad, Emirates and Qatar over the past few years. In Saudia's case, I think the A330 was an ideal choice. It can also free up the 777s for longer haul flights, should SV wish to do that.
Quoting WINGS (Reply 3): Still I question if Emirates will also go down this path.
There was talk, before the 350 order, that they might do so, rather like SIA did, but as yet they haven't taken the bait; maybe Airbus is still prodding them to do so. If they were to do this, they should really move quickly as the A330/340 production line is going to be very full over the next few years.
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 7100 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4770 times:
Quoting NA (Reply 14): But how in the world could A333s replace a far bigger 747-100B? Thats like replacing 777s with A332s.
Numerous carriers have replaced certain aircraft (especially 747s) by smaller types. I doubt SV's 747 classics have been operated with high loads all year round in the past few years. And even if - load factors don't say much about the yields.
Cloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4695 times:
the 744s will replaces the 741s, the 777s will replace the 744s, etc. Now if they would only rationalize their route structure. Create a hub at RUH, JED, or both. SV may be able to compete with the big boys.
Aviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4002 times:
Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 19): Saudia has ordered in a mix of direct and leasing orders 12 B787 and 8 A330s, apparently all already "firm orders"
Quoting Aviationbuff (Reply 13): Yes, these are the best suited aircrafts for SV. They will not repeat the mistake again (MD90) as the earlier mistake impacted them heavily, and they have to use 777 even on thinner routes as their MD90 did not have the legs to do the same.I am sure that they will order 787 in the future as it suits SV to T.
I was expecting SV to order 787 as it suits them very well and they should have ordered A320 and A330 long ago.