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FedEx...Any Way To Obtain A Route Map?  
User currently offlinePhxtravelboy From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 232 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 23973 times:

My office in PHX is located directly South of both Southern runways so I have great views of the action at Sky Harbor throughout the day. Within a span of maybe 5 mins this morning 2 FedEx DC10s and an A300 took off. While on my walk later, a FedEx Cessna Grand Caravan took off and immediately banked South going over my office. I'm assuming the widebodies were headed to MEM. I'm assuming the Caravan was headed to a much smaller outstation in Arizona. My question is, where?
I know the widebodies land in PHX with their loads, get unloaded, and some of the cargo is transferred to the Caravans to be taken to the smaller cities. I'm sure this same scenario happens all over the US. Is there anyway to see where FedEx flies to? I've been curious about this for a very long time. Thanks for the info.

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User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 23857 times:

I don't know of a good source for a FedEx route map, but FlightAware will give you an idea of where some of these flights are headed. Since midnight this morning, here are the FedEx departures from Phoenix - the three flights you saw this morning were the IND, MEM and OAK flights. I didn't check arrivals to see what came in during the evening hours, but I would expect there to be several additional departures later this evening for the morning deliveries.

FDX3611 DC10 Indianapolis Intl
FDX857 DC10 Memphis Intl (KMEM)
FDX3813 A306 Metropolitan Oakland Intl
FDX3871 A306 Los Angeles Intl


User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1518 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 23767 times:

The morning departures are almost always full with U.S.Mail. The early evening departures carry the
bulk of the sort freight that goes through the big hubs. Conversely the flights that arrive in cities in
the late afternoon, early evening are carrying the Mail for that city. You have essentially two pushes
Early morning to hubs carrying mail, early morning out of hubs carrying FEDEX product, afternoon/
evening departures to hubs with FEDEX product, afternoon/early arrivals at destination cities with
U.S. Mail.



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 23718 times:

Does FX have an air equivalent to Custom Critical?

[Edited 2008-05-21 19:26:50]


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User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 23665 times:



Quoting N328KF (Reply 3):
Does FX have an air equivalent to Custom Critical?

P1 Priority


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 23481 times:



Quoting CosmicCruiser (Reply 4):
P1 Priority

Are you referring to next-day-air by 10:30am? I don't think that's what Custom Critical is. Isn't Custom Critical when FedEx Ground dispatches a vehicle for your load whether they have other traffic or not?



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 23435 times:



Quoting CosmicCruiser (Reply 4):

Quoting N328KF (Reply 3):
Does FX have an air equivalent to Custom Critical?

P1 Priority

You are correct... and depending on what it is FX will dispatch a hand carrier.

This topic has been brought up many many times and the answer is NO NO NO since 9/11.

FX does not publish routes and or schedules to the public. Contact: FXramper if you have routes/schedule questions.



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User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 23404 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 6):
FX does not publish routes and or schedules to the public. Contact: FXramper if you have routes/schedule questions

Yeah they don't but it is not exactly secret. If you want to do the homework Flightaware or FlightComm gives the flight numbers and routes of all FedEx flights just have to look.



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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 23114 times:

As long as we're talking about FedEx...do they regularly fly to LAF? Or is the 727 there parked permanently?

User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 23056 times:

A check of FlightAware shows no FedEx activity at LAF, and a quick Google search reveals the following:

http://www.tech.purdue.edu/at/aboutus/facilities/boeing727.cfm


User currently offlinePremoBrimo From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 22977 times:

The 727 was donated to Purdue from Fedex. Students take classes aboard the aircraft as well as taxi it around the runway.


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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4076 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 22786 times:
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Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 6):
FX does not publish routes and or schedules to the public.

.
I've never seen a US route map, but FX's marketing materials for Asia One include a route map. As far as schedules go, I don't think you can just call FedEx and ask for one (why would they bother with the expense, on or offline), but I've seen print-outs in freight forwarders offices.



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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 22719 times:



Quoting JohnJ (Reply 9):
A check of FlightAware shows no FedEx activity at LAF, and a quick Google search reveals the following:
http://www.tech.purdue.edu/at/aboutu...7.cfm

True, I was aware that FX had given Purdue an old a/c, however I wasn't sure if:
a) The a/c was based at LAF, or
b) The a/c was based at Purdue's training facility at IND, and the a/c I saw at LAF was in active service.

I kind of assumed it was #b, since the a/c at LAF is often in a different position/orientation, but I had not considered that even though they don't fly the trainer a/c (which I was aware of) that they might still taxi it. Thanks for pointing that out, PremoBrimo.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 22688 times:



Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 2):
Conversely the flights that arrive in cities in
the late afternoon, early evening are carrying the Mail for that city.

I always wondered about this at BUR. I see an FX A310 flying in late afternoon, then one leaving not more than 2 hours later. Are they turning this plane in that amount of time?



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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7507 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 22617 times:

I have also seen FX fly from differant cities to ROC than the usual MEM flights around Christmas. I have seen them come in here from YYZ,CLE and IND . As of now,we get 1 A310 from MEM , which continues to SYR,and 1 A300 which goes back to MEM.


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User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 22499 times:

Here in SYR Fedex has a 722 that does a BTV-SYR-EWR routing each night and returns the same way in the mourning. Also they do run a 300 to MEM. Wiggins flies some Caravans for them out of SYR with ALB and PBG being the destinations (Business Airfreight also runs a Bandit to PBG for UPS from SYR).

User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1518 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22499 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
I always wondered about this at BUR. I see an FX A310 flying in late afternoon, then one leaving not more than 2 hours later. Are they turning this plane in that amount of time?

Yes, that would be the normal turn around for the evening push.



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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7507 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22007 times:

I have also heard FX181 (a 727) doing YOW-BUF-MEM around 7pm.


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User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22007 times:

You must keep in mind a particular route one month may be totally different next. Some flights change others don't.

User currently offlineFxfan From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 21150 times:

The air equivalent of Custom Critical is the same concept. Once had an MD-10 chartered full of race horses.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 20858 times:



Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 16):
Yes, that would be the normal turn around for the evening push.

So, the mail comes in, then that plane leaves later with FedEx air packages. So that means that another arrives at 6AM or so, and turns around leaving with mail at 8AM?



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User currently offlineRampGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 20036 times:



Quoting Chase (Reply 8):
As long as we're talking about FedEx...do they regularly fly to LAF? Or is the 727 there parked permanently?

All freight to/from LAF is trucked up from the IND hub. No FedEx mainline or feeder a/c fly in to LAF. The same goes for Terre Haute (HUF), Bloomington (BMG), Muncie (MIE). Evansville (EVV) is sent to Louisville and then trucked over. Why this is, I'll never know or understand.


User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19899 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):
So that means that another arrives at 6AM or so, and turns around leaving with mail at 8AM?

I don't think you can make a blanket statement that the early dept has only mail on it. Maybe with certain stations but not all. Every jet type here has had a.m. O/B (out & backs) as well as p.m. O/Bs for years. And each hub as a day sort and the old standard night sort. One can do the dreaded night hub turns or even day hubturns now days if you're flying domestic. The combination ie endless!  eyepopping 


User currently offlineEXMEMWIDGET From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19859 times:

The outbound AM flights from the outlying stations to the hubs carry a mix of mail and E2 freight. E2 freight is the FedEx product that has transit times of 2+ days.

User currently offlineJetskipper From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 19811 times:

Try this site: http://crewroom.alpa.org/fdx/jumpseat/Default.aspx

Not a route map, but you can use it as a timetable.


User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 25, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 19799 times:

Interesting site, Jetskipper. Playing around, I found a quite interesting flight out of Memphis on May 28 (I didn't check any other dates):

9957 IAD 05/28/2008 05:00L (10:00Z) 05/28/2008 07:56L (11:56Z) 757-200R

[Edited 2008-05-23 07:06:50]

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