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Snapshot: Chicago, March 1960  
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6778 posts, RR: 7
Posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

Following are all the nonstop fixed-wing passenger arrivals at MDW and ORD as shown in the March 1960 Quick Ref North Amer OAG. It shows AF and LH from YUL, so I'm guessing the only flights it leaves out are PA's DTW-ORD twice-weekly 707 (?) and BOAC's 4/weekly (?) Britannia. It seems TWA wasn't flying to Europe from Chicago.

CAK-ORD-- two UA DC6B

ABQ-MDW-- TWA 1049G

ATL-MDW-- two EA Elec, DL DC7 and DC7B, two NW Elec
ATL-ORD-- DL DC8, DC6; EA Elec

BAL-ORD-- UA DC8

JVL-MDW-- NO Conv, five DC3

BEH-MDW-- two NO DC3

BMI-MDW-- three OZ DC3

BOS-MDW-- two AA Elec, UA DC7
BOS-ORD-- AA 707 (no 720s yet)

BUF-MDW-- CA four Visc; AA DC7, two Elec
BUF-ORD-- AA DC6 (which, as usual with AA, could mean DC6B)

BRL-MDW-- OZ DC3

CID-ORD-- UA CV340

CMI-MDW-- OZ three DC3, two F27

CLT-MDW-- EA DC7B

CVG-MDW-- EA two Elec; DL three DC6, three CV440, DC7; AA Elec

CLE-MDW-- CA Visc, 049; UA three DC6B, DC7, DC6
CLE-ORD-- CA Visc, DC6B; UA three DC6B, two DC7

CWI-MDW-- two DC3

CMH-MDW-- TWA 749, three M404

DAL-MDW-- AA DC6, two Elec; BN Elec
DAL-ORD-- AA 707, BN 707

DNV-MDW-- three LC DC3

DAY-MDW-- TWA three 749, M404, 1049G
DAY-ORD-- TWA two 749, M404; UA DC6, DC6B

DEN-MDW-- CO Visc, UA two DC7, TWA 049
DEN-ORD-- CO two 707; UA two DC7, DC6

DSM-MDW-- UA two DC6B
DSM-ORD-- UA DC7, DC6B, CV340

DTW-MDW-- AA two Elec, DC7, seven DC6, CV240
DTW-ORD-- AA CV240, six DC6

YIP-MDW-- CA four Visc; TWA 049, 1049G; UA DC7
YIP-ORD-- UA DC7, DC6

DBQ-MDW-- two OZ DC3

DLH-MDW-- two NO Conv

EVV-MDW-- two DL CV440

FLL-MDW-- EA Elec, NW Elec

GRR-MDW-- CA Visc, two DC3
GRR-ORD-- CA three DC4, three DC3

GSO-MDW-- EA 1049G

BDL-MDW-- UA DC6, DC6B
BDL-ORD-- UA DC7

HOU-MDW-- BN Elec

IND-MDW-- EA two DC7B, two M404, four CV440, 1049; AA three CV240; DL two CV440
IND-ORD-- EA DC7B, two M404; AA CV240, DC6

JAX-MDW-- EA 1049G

AZO-MDW-- four NO DC3

MKC-MDW-- BN Elec, three DC6; TWA four 049, three 749, 1049G
MKC-ORD-- CO 707, UA DC6

LAF-MDW-- six LC DC3

LAS-MDW-- two TWA 1049G
LAS-ORD-- UA two DC7

LAX-MDW-- TWA 1049G
LAX-ORD-- UA three DC8, AA four 707, TWA two 707, CO three 707

SDF-MDW-- EA 1049, six M404; DL CV440
SDF-ORD-- EA 1049

MEM-MDW-- DL DC6

MEX-MDW-- MX DC6, AA DC7

MIA-MDW-- NW two Elec; EA DC7B, two Elec; DL DC7B
MIA-ORD-- EA DC8, DL three DC8

MKE-MDW-- NO four Conv, eighteen DC3; NW DC6B, Elec, four DC4; CA three Visc
MKE-ORD-- three NO DC3, UA CV340, AA CV240

MSP-MDW-- CA five Visc; NW five Elec, B377, five DC6B, DC7C
MSP-ORD-- NW two DC6B; CA two Visc, two 049

MLI-MDW-- UA four CV340, DC6B; OZ two DC3
MLI-ORD-- UA DC6B, two CV340

YUL-MDW-- 2/week LH 1649, 3/week AF 1649. No indication they can't carry local traffic. The 4/60 Timetable Edition OAG shows AF as 2/week, no indication which Chicago airport, switching to a 707 in late April; LH was to switch to a 707 at ORD in May.

MKG-ORD-- CA DC4

BNA-MDW-- EA M404

MSY-MDW-- DL DC7

EWR-MDW-- UA DC7, five CA Visc
EWR-ORD-- two UA DC7, CA 049, AA DC6

LGA-MDW-- AA eleven Elec, two DC6; TWA three 1049G, two 049; UA DC6, two DC6B; CA Visc
LGA-ORD-- AA DC6, Elec

IDL-MDW-- NW DC6B, three DC7C
IDL-ORD-- UA DC6B, two DC8; AA 707

OKC-MDW-- BN DC6

OMA-MDW-- UA three DC6, two DC7
OMA-ORD-- UA two CV340

OSH-MDW-- NO DC3, two Conv

PIA-MDW-- TWA M404; OZ two DC3, three F27
PIA-ORD-- AA CV240

PHL-MDW-- TW two 749, CA three Visc
PHL-ORD-- UA DC8, two DC7

PHX-MDW-- TWA two 1049G, AA two DC7

PIT-MDW-- CA 049, four Visc; TWA 049, 1049G, two 749
PIT-ORD-- TW 707, UA two DC7, CA Visc

PDX-MDW-- UA DC7, NW Elec
PDX-ORD-- UA DC7

ROC-MDW-- AA DC6

RFD-MDW-- five OZ DC3, two NO DC3

MBS-ORD-- two CA DC4

STL-MDW-- DL six CV440, two DC7, two DC6; AA two Elec, two CV240, two DC6. One DL DC7 was from CCS-HAV.
STL-ORD-- DL CV440, two AA CV240

SLC-ORD-- UA DC7, DC6B

SFO-ORD-- UA four DC8, DC7; TWA 707; AA three 707

SJU-MDW-- EA DC7B

SEA-MDW-- two NW DC7C
SEA-ORD-- two UA DC7

SBN-MDW-- NO Conv, four DC3; UA two DC6B; TWA M404
SBN-ORD-- NO DC3, two UA CV340

GEG-MDW-- NW DC7C

SPI-MDW-- AA CV240

TPA-MDW-- NW DC7C, Elec; DL DC7B

TOL-MDW-- UA CV340; CA 049, Visc
TOL-ORD-- UA three CV340

YYZ-MDW-- six TCA Visc
YYZ-ORD-- two TCA Visc

TUS-MDW-- TW 1049G; AA DC7, DC6

TUL-MDW-- AA DC6, BN Conv

DCA-MDW-- CA nine Visc, AA five Elec, TWA 049, UA two DC7
DCA-ORD-- UA DC7

ALO-MDW-- two BN Conv

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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

Thank you for another wonderful snapshot!

I think it's really interesting that most airlines had split operations between MDW and ORD, even Trans Canada and the local service airlines. Early 1960 was probably the peak time for split operations; by 1962, the airlines had consolidated everything at ORD.



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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

Quoting Timz (Thread starter):
are all the nonstop fixed-wing passenger

There was a few more. Capital had a few more across the lake to Michigan cities. The OAG QR never showed all
flights in its early days. The big OAG, phone book size with line scheds, did.

You have done a fine job! Thank you for the info published.
safe

[Edited 2008-05-22 12:03:56]


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

That is really great....ORD isnt very busy then is it?

User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5628 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

Thanks for posting the list.

Note there's nothing to MCO or SPB. Orlando wasn't much of a destination in those pre-Mouse days.



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User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10345 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2704 times:

I'm guessing that there was ORD/MDW-MSY service on DL and EA. That was one of Chicago & Southern's main routes before they merged with DL.


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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2617 times:



Quoting Mayor (Reply 5):
I'm guessing that there was ORD/MDW-MSY service on DL and EA. That was one of Chicago & Southern's main routes before they merged with DL.



Quoting Timz (Thread starter):

MSY-MDW-- DL DC7

Just one flight, on a "Gold Crown" DC-7!



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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2573 times:



Quoting PROSA (Reply 4):
Note there's nothing to MCO or SPB. Orlando wasn't much of a destination in those pre-Mouse days.

as late as the 1970 census, MCO and LAS both had populations of 100,000


User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10345 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2566 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 7):

In the early 70's, MCO's terminal was still in a Quonset hut and baggage claim was outside.

It was still and Air Force base at that time.



"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6778 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

Quoting Mayor (Reply 5):
I'm guessing that there was ORD/MDW-MSY service on DL and EA.

No MSY-Chicago nonstop in EA's timetables for 1/60 or 6/60. (DL is listed above, as he said.)

[Edited 2008-05-22 16:22:17]

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6778 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2470 times:



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 2):
Capital had a few more across the lake to Michigan cities. The OAG QR never showed all
flights in its early days.

Could be true for all I know; got any examples?

I checked the 4/60 timetable edition-- no Michigan nonstops there, beyond what I listed. The 10/59 shows a TVC-MDW nonstop, but that's in the 10/59 QR too.

The 3/60 QR shows one-stops from FNT, LAN, and TVC; you agree if they show the one-stops they likely would also show any existing nonstops on those routes?


User currently offlineBOAC911 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

By the way, the International flights are missing.

User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10345 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2189 times:



Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 6):


Quoting Mayor (Reply 5):
I'm guessing that there was ORD/MDW-MSY service on DL and EA. That was one of Chicago & Southern's main routes before they merged with DL.



Quoting Timz (Thread starter):

MSY-MDW-- DL DC7

Just one flight, on a "Gold Crown" DC-7!


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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2188 times:



Quoting BOAC911 (Reply 11):
By the way, the International flights are missing.

They usually were in the OAG QR North American edition in the early 60's. They wanted you to buy the
international editon.
safe



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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2152 times:



Quoting Timz (Reply 9):
Quoting Mayor (Reply 5):
I'm guessing that there was ORD/MDW-MSY service on DL and EA.

No MSY-Chicago nonstop in EA's timetables for 1/60 or 6/60. (DL is listed above, as he said.)

MSY-Chicago was a Delta (and before the merger, C&S) monopoly until 1969. In 1969, EA was awarded rights to the route, in a much larger route case that also gave DL MSY-BNA-ORD authority (DL's first service to BNA), AA SAT-STL and DAL-IND and DAL-DTW, BN DAL/MKC-DTW, and SO MEM-Chicago authority.

Eastern was not able to compete against DL in the market, and agreed to sell their authority to United (at the time, MSY's only UA service was on the northeast-Atlanta-New Orleans routes inherited from Capital; UA did not have authority to Chicago, or the west coast, from MSY). The government would not allow Eastern to sell MSY-ORD to United, and instead awarded the route to Northwest Orient, which did not serve MSY. NW began ORD-MSY in June, 1977.



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6778 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 2034 times:



Quoting BOAC911 (Reply 11):
By the way, the International flights are missing.

Think there were any, besides the LH-AF-PA-BA flights I mentioned?


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1855 times:



Quoting Timz (Reply 10):
Could be true for all I know; got any examples?

There's a couple of trips to MKG and a NS to MBS with an evening return from MBS with a Viscount
Most MKG trips are DC 4's.
safe



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6778 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Don't have a 3/60 Capital timetable or Timetable Edition OAG-- but the 4/60 Timetable OAG shows the same as listed above, one a day MKG-ORD and one a day MBS-ORD; no indication that they're Viscounts.

The 10/59 Timetable OAG shows one TVC-MDW, four a day MKG-MDW, and two a day MBS-ORD; all of those are in the 10/59 QR OAG. (No Viscounts.)

Don't have any OAGs/timetables between 15 Oct 1959 and 3/60, so can't check on the flights you found. When were they, anyway?


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