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L-1011 With 4 Engines?  
User currently offlineCYYC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

While standing in line at the grocery store a few weeks ago, I was looking through "The World Weekly News" It has fake stories and unrealistic things that supposidly happened around the world. One was about a guy that was drunk or something and opened the airplane door and jumped out. Unbelievable I know. Anyways to the question. The article showed a L-1011 landing but it had 4 engines, the rear engine and the two wing engines. However, under one wing there was a "fourth" engine. So if you can picture it in your head, it had 2 engines under one wing (close together), one engine on the other wing and the rear engine. Is this a fictional plane, or is it real? If it is real, does airliners.net have a picture of it? Thanx for your help
CYYC

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User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1969 times:

Chances are that it --is-- real. The airlines do this (strap an extra engine on..it's less common now) to deliver the extra engine to a plane that needs a new one, whether it be domestically or internationally.

FLY777UAL


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

The L1011 was probably ferrying an engine to another L1011 in need.


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User currently offline24291 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

Here is a 747 with a fifth engine attached for transport.


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Photo © Jörg Tegen



I knew this pratice was common on the 747, but I've never heard of it on an L-1011. Did the engine in the photo you saw look like it was attached like this one?


User currently offlinePanman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Aug 1999, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

I have seen this. A few years ago BWIA International needed to ferry a RB511 to RR in England so they attached the engine (just as in the picture of the 747 in the previous message) on one of their scheduled flights to LHR

User currently offlineCYYC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

Yes, in the photo the pic showed the engine attached like the one on the 747. Thanx for the help!

User currently offlineFRA_to_usa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Are you guys for real? How would they just quickly mount another engine to a plan like L-1011 or B747? Do they hook it on with a cargo strap or super glue?

I would like to think that the structural integrity of the aircraft would be compromised by 2000 pounds hooked to it, not producing any power. Or do they add an extra wiring kit and fuel line?

Wouldn't it be easier to put it on a cargo flight to the same destination?


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3122 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

A cargo flight only for this purpose would be much more expensive than this way, that would be silliest.

User currently offline24291 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1894 times:


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Photo © Christos Psarras



Sorry I didn't use this one earlier, but I didn't even think to look for it...duh! OK, now I know this happens with 747s and L-1011s--do any other aircraft do this?

Regarding FRA_to_usas questions, of course it doesn't threaten the structural integrity--it's designed to do this! It does, however, add drag so there would be a performance penalty (then again, any cargo would affect performance). Also, why would an airline want to pay someone else to ship it? That would take time and great expense--it would be much quicker and cost-effective to transport it along with the rest of the cargo on their own revenue flight. I've seen aircraft sit for days at a remote location after some mishap waiting for a new engine to arrive by truck--what a waste! Also, I know on the 747, they mount devices on the spare engine to reduce drag, since it is inoperative.


User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3389 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1880 times:
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The 747 and L1011 were designed to have this capability (The DC-10 was not).There is a mount in the wing for this very purpose. On at least two occasions I saw a CO 747 transport an engine in this manner.


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User currently offlineMocc mgr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

The fourth engine is a spare"pod" it is used to move engines from one place to another. That engine does not produce thrust, no fuel or other hook ups other than the two mounts. DC10's and 747's also have the same pod .

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