RwSEA From United States, joined Jan 2005, 2179 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11528 times:
I wonder if LGW will be shut down all together? You'd think they could support at least a 752 to JFK, but considering that post merger they'll be flying JFK/ATL/MSP/DTW/SEA-LHR, the current LGW routes would be redundant. Makes sense to consolidate at one airport in today's fuel environment.
Delta4eva From United States, joined Jan 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11518 times:
Quoting RwSEA (Reply 3): I wonder if LGW will be shut down all together? You'd think they could support at least a 752 to JFK, but considering that post merger they'll be flying JFK/ATL/MSP/DTW/SEA-LHR, the current LGW routes would be redundant. Makes sense to consolidate at one airport in today's fuel environment.
MaverickM11 From United States, joined Apr 2000, 10039 posts, RR: 40 Reply 6, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11367 times:
With all the new routes they've added I'd guess at least a good third of that new capacity is at risk of being cut as long as fuel stays at $130/barrel or higher.
Panamair From United States, joined Oct 2001, 2902 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11199 times:
I had heard that OTP was in danger a month or two ago and with the current fuel situation, I guess they finally had to pull the plug. The back was never the problem to fill; DL knew that the front would be a challenge (developing market, etc.) and from what I heard, was hoping to make up for that with cargo. Unfortunately the hoped-for cargo volume/yields didn't materialize (or were not enough) to make up for the shortfall.
Bloodyrascal From Bahamas, joined Mar 2007, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10999 times:
its so sad to see there JFK-LGW service ending. But how is there JFK-LHR service doing? well I guess you Cannot operate Three London airports with heavies and expect profits. but how does JFK-STN work but not JFK-LGW doesn't
Misbeehavin From United States, joined Mar 2005, 856 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10958 times:
Quoting Belizexp (Reply 8): Lyons was drop/cancelled earlier this year.
Oy! really? Didn't know Lyons was gone too. I thought New York to Lagos and Orly, Atlanta to Edinburgh, and Dakar to Nairobi were the only long hauls that got the chop. Until Gatwick and Bucharest, of course.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 22331 posts, RR: 64 Reply 13, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10675 times:
Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 11):
Oy! really? Didn't know Lyons was gone too. I thought New York to Lagos and Orly, Atlanta to Edinburgh, and Dakar to Nairobi were the only long hauls that got the chop. Until Gatwick and Bucharest, of course.
LYS is still starting this summer. The international routes that were/will be cut, so far:
Atlanta-Edinburgh
Atlanta-Fort de France
Atlanta-Pointe Pitre
Atlanta-Tobago
Delta4eva From United States, joined Jan 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10323 times:
Quoting Hypercott (Reply 15): I just hope JFK-TXL won't be next. Does anybody know how badly JFK-Bucharest was doing?
JFK-TXL has a LF of around 80%.
To my knowledge, JFK-TXL does well also. If anything, DL will switch JFK-TXL to a 752. I don't think they will cancel it, but JFK-LGW is a surprise to me.
It shouldn't be. They've just started LHR, and it's likely doing better than LGW. This move has me thinking that they'll either drop LGW altogether, or it'll go to ATL-only, once they get enough slots to operate CVG-LHR (that is, if they keep CVG as a hub when this mess gets even worse).
ElmoTheHobo From United States, joined Aug 2006, 930 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9960 times:
Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 19): didnt DL pay UA something like 10million in the last 1-2 years for the route authority/slots on the jfk-lon route?
Yes. They paid for the authority to operate JFK-LON. This was before Bermuda II, and they didn't anticipate it ending. At the time it was the right decision. They didn't purchase any slots from UA, however, as UA flew to Heathrow and Delta wasn't allowed to serve Heathrow at the time.
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