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JetBlue: Lufthansa Partnership  
User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6272 times:

On JetBlue's routemap, they now have added Lufthansa to their partner airline list. This has been long awaited, especially since this has been in the works since LH invested in JetBlue. This should sure help out on loads on their flights from their major stations. I don't believe you can book flights yet on JetBlue or Lufthansa's wesbite. However, since JetBlue just put this up, I'm sure you will be able to book soon. Happy flying!  Smile


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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1973 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6172 times:

I wonder where the connections will be. JFK is a shoo-in. BOS and MCO were listed as being likely six weeks ago.


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8625 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6135 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 1):
BOS and MCO were listed as being likely six weeks ago.

Add JFK to that list as well.

Good news for us in MCO. Because of their code share, will B6 do the ground handling in MCO for LH?

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User currently offlineCarledwards From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6108 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
Add JFK to that list as well.

Good news for us in MCO. Because of their code share, will B6 do the ground handling in MCO for LH?

Hunter

hmmm i dont think this is good news for United if LH are now using Jetblue for onward connections; what is the main purpose in this 'non-alliance' tie up?



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6108 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 1):
I wonder where the connections will be

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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1973 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6025 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
Add JFK to that list as well.

I did. I said it was a shoo-in. Of course they are using JFK. I'd like to see them connect pax in BOS too. Connections are good for an airport.

Quoting Carledwards (Reply 3):
hmmm i dont think this is good news for United if LH are now using Jetblue for onward connections; what is the main purpose in this 'non-alliance' tie up?

UA and US don't overlap much out of BOS, JFK, or MCO. Now people in BTV and PWM can go to JFK to connect to LH instead of driving all the way to BOS or flying to PHL or IAD. And it will give those looking for a cheap fare another option. A lot of people fly to the European hubs to connect to the LCCs there, and this will give them the option going the other direction.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32194 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6014 times:



Quoting Carledwards (Reply 3):

hmmm i dont think this is good news for United if LH are now using Jetblue for onward connections; what is the main purpose in this 'non-alliance' tie up?

It is not a codeshare agreement. It is an over-hyped interline agreement. It is no different than an interline agreement between Lufthansa and American Airlines, except that this one has marketing behind it.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1973 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5955 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
It is no different than an interline agreement between Lufthansa and American Airlines, except that this one has marketing behind it.

LH and AA have an interline agreement? How does that work?



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32194 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5937 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 7):

LH and AA have an interline agreement? How does that work?

Almost all major airlines have interline agreements with other major airlines. AA has interline agreements with over three dozen airlines, if not more. As do Delta, Contienntal, etc.

It simply means that you can book an itinerary that involves flights on AA and LH, and you can do it on one ticket, and AA/LH will make sure the luggage gets between your flights. You can also book Lufthansa flights on aa.com.

That's what this new B6/LH deal is: nothing more, nothing less, just hype.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1973 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5863 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8):
It simply means that you can book an itinerary that involves flights on AA and LH, and you can do it on one ticket, and AA/LH will make sure the luggage gets between your flights. You can also book Lufthansa flights on aa.com.

Oh, so that's why when I once looked at flights from CLT-DUB on US it had an itinerary where you flew US from CLT-BOS and then EI BOS-DUB, and why when looking at some AA flights once some on DL and UA appeared.

And while they are merging and are partners, my friend is flying NW BOS-MSP-Bozeman and then Bozeman-SLC-BOS on DL going back. I wondered if there was a codeshare on those routes, but I guess it is interlining as well.

I just checked FRA-FLL on LH's website but B6 did not appear. I wonder when the routes involved will be announced.

So MAH, do you work for B6 or LH, or do you know someone who does? I am just wondering how you know about it.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32194 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5789 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 9):
I wonder when the routes involved will be announced.

There will be most likely be no "routes" involved. Interlining is not exclusive to certain routes.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 9):

So MAH, do you work for B6 or LH, or do you know someone who does? I am just wondering how you know about it.

No, I don't, but this is just a glorified interline agreement - absolutely nothing special about it, but in typical jetBlue fashion they make a fuss out of nothing. You can read about interlining here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlining



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User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5634 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
No, I don't, but this is just a glorified interline agreement - absolutely nothing special about it, but in typical jetBlue fashion they make a fuss out of nothing. You can read about interlining here:

I haven't read any of the articles on it yet, but I'm assuming it's a safe bet that they end in something along the lines of "NYC based jetBlue began as a leader...low cost...blah blah...xx years ago..won JD power, features Direct TV/XM, leather..legroom...email...Bill of Rights ..assigned seats..ticketless travel (WOW, it's like we're living in the future!)..blah blah...no Saturday night required...blah blah..."

If only some of the legacy carriers would put their life story in all press releases, beginning with mail runs in single engine props.



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User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5549 times:

Hey! Do I hear a propesctive Star Alliance member coming up?

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Maybe I'll like JetBlue more then.......  Smile



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1973 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5376 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
There will be most likely be no "routes" involved. Interlining is not exclusive to certain routes.

Okay, the picture is coming in a little more clearer for me. So what it looks like is that you will have to go to Lufthansa's website, look up your route, and see if an itinerary involving B6 is possible. It sounds almost like you may be be able to fly B6 going one way but not the other. So if you book MSY-ZRH, B6 may not show up at all for the first leg, but going back it would. I wonder if B6 would be able to say which cities have connections and which don't.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32194 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5365 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 13):
I wonder if B6 would be able to say which cities have connections and which don't.

It depends on the specifics of the interline agreement. Most of the time such agreements don't have limitations - you can connect at any city that is dual-served (i.e. you can interline on American Airlines and Lufthansa between Miami and Frankfurt via Atlanta). Though B6 and LH can limit the interlining to certain markets if they chose too.

Regardless, it's still JetBlue making a big deal out of absolutely nothing special.



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User currently offlinePlanefxr From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5340 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):
Regardless, it's still JetBlue making a big deal out of absolutely nothing special.

You mean like their Customer Bill of Rights?


User currently offlineClipper136 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 311 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5252 times:

According to B6, as recently as last month, there has been no decision on how the partnership will shape up. It could be an Interline, Codeshare or something else entirely. They have put together working committees to plan it out. Time will tell what it turns out to be.


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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4735 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 9):

So MAH, do you work for B6 or LH, or do you know someone who does? I am just wondering how you know about it.

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User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1798 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4302 times:



Quoting StarAlliance38 (Reply 12):
Hey! Do I hear a propesctive Star Alliance member coming up?

JetBlue for Star! JetBlue for Star!

Maybe I'll like JetBlue more then.......

I think that would probably be impossible. Jetblue does not have the amenities expected of a Star Alliance partner. Sure they are one of the best 4 airlines in the U.S. in terms of customer service (CO, B6, YX, WN), but they don't have premium class lounges or U.S. coverage. These, among other products/services are what international Star elites want that Jetblue cannot offer. US Airways offers excellent coverage of the east coast and southwest, making them superior in that regard, but they suck as a service company. It makes me wonder if the Alliance lowers its standards only when it suits them.



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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4286 times:

I don't think B6 themselves want to be part of an alliance. As was stated earlier, all B6 is doing is hyping up interline agreements. You can't even book the flights on the B6 website. You have to go to EI and LH's website to book BUF-JFK-DUB/FRA. I'm assuming B6 does even want the responsibility of having to get misconnected passengers to their destinations across the pond!

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