Oil at US$130 per barrel, are time going to be hard in the Caribbean Tourism in the fall?Tourism ministers and officials meet this week.
Delta to end flights to Guadeloupe and Martinique before summer and LGA-BDA from September. Barbados gets weekly.
American Airlines CEO confirms some that reductions and cuts in service to the Caribbean will come soon.
Caribbean Airlines flights to FLL starts, daily service will commence from June 15th. The airline has received its 7th 737 registered 9Y-SLU for St. Lucia George F. L. Charles Airport configured 12 first and 148 economy from ex-ATA.
Cayman Airways to get two new aircrafts Saab 2000, reports revenues up and celebrates it 40th anniversary
Air Jamaica unions threaten more unrest for the management if wage negations fail.
CO divest itself of Copa as Copa continues to expand its fleet and routes.
On a side note the Trinidad and Tobago VS England game is on next Sunday at the Hasely Crawford Stadium. The West Indies VS Australia begins 1st test march 22-26 May in Kingston Jamaica. All the best to the fellas.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31726 posts, RR: 72 Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5497 times:
Quoting Caribbean484 (Thread starter): American Airlines CEO confirms some reduction and cuts in service to the Caribbean will come soon.
He has confirmed no such thing. Poor Caribbean journalism with no proper sourcing at its best. AMR has kept lip tight about the cuts, and it's sad that a Jamaican media source thought it was okay to lie.
The cuts are purely domestic. Whether are not there will be Caribbean schedule changes is another thing - it has nothing to do with the grounding of the S80s and ERJs.
Again, let's look at the original PR which should end confusion:
FORT WORTH, Texas, May 21 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AMR Corporation, the parent company of American Airlines, Inc., today announced significant reductions to its 2008 domestic flight schedule, including a fourth quarter mainline domestic capacity reduction of 11 percent to 12 percent from the previous year.
The PR also highlighted that international capacity will increase year-over-year by between 1% and 2%.
We will definitley see changes in the Caribbean schedule, but whatever we do see is independent of the cuts announced this past week. Personally, I expect to see capacity to Caribbean increase slightly. Its where the money is.
LIA310 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Mar 2008, 406 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5482 times:
continuing from the last thread,
shortly after April last year VH stopped using their own equipment into POS and were chartering Avior 732's to do the flight for them when they started having fleet problems, and even now Avior has stopped doing the flights for VH, before its demise VH operated a daily MD-80 into POS which was full most of the time both ways
Caribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2583 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5471 times:
VH is "brain dead" at the moment but is still breathing, they are down to one flying aircraft at the moment. VH hasnt touched Trinidad ground for at least a year.
The CAL flight to CCS has been operating near full in both directions recently. It really has picked up since it began.
I dont know about CAL and PMV, they probably could make some money off of it because Avior operates a daily B1900 in the off season and during the busy periods you can see a few flights with 732's each day. Conviasa just recently started flying a second daily ATR42/72 flight but it stays the same during the busy period.
VH having fleet problems was the reason so many travellers did not wanting to fly to CCS with them and as LIA310 said they had to charter flights from Avior. Right now CCS-POS is basically very high yields for CAL with the break even much less than 50% loads.
PMV would be nice to do but maybe CUR can work too with some links to the different islands near the coast of Venezuela. There are always Trinis and business pax willing to go to PMV and CUR from POS.
Caribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2583 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5461 times:
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4): I would think BW would aim to re-establish a POS-GND Dash-8 service since Liat is the only competitor on the route and also due to the obvious proximity and the demise of the POS-TAB-BGI route
From what is being told they would re-established most regional routes and they would not really compete with LI. The last thing CAL and the GROTT is to compete with LI with low fares since it would cause many gripes with other regional governments.
Well all is being said is that they plan to have flights to GND and UVF/SLU this fall, remains to be seen but would be nice for connections to international routes.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9403 posts, RR: 11 Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5437 times:
Quoting AA1818 (Reply 213): And like I said, I am willing to put money on POS...what business is POS linked to the US via? OIL AND GAS. Have you seen what's happenned recently? Price of oil...UP UP UP...
The IAH flight is not going anywhere! YYZ and JFK are so filled with VFR and University students going back and forth that they too will not be affected!
We are all feeling the economic crisis worldwide, I don't see Trinidad being so special compared to the rest of the world because of gas or oil. Every island and country has it's own VFR, students etc but if the economy is in a downfall there just is no money. Again I don't see how Trinidad in this case would so special. Besides, YYZ and JFK are just two destination of all the other destinations. I think we will just have to agree to disagree.
I think we all know that Trinidad is blessed with Oil & LNG, but I think Trinidadians should be cautious, because as the world has seen, high oil prices comes along with higher inflation. Also, Trinidad needs to wake up and realize that if they don't solve their crime/infrastructure problems they will eventually lose foreign investment in other sectors.
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3211 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5391 times:
It is a major shame that VH has ended service to POS and indeed it is probably the end for them overall. Aeropostal was originally a French company and was the first airline to fly to POS (as in Piarco Int'l) in 1930 when it opened. Pan Am had flown to Trinidad before but used seaplanes (it had also served Tobago with seaplanes prior to TAB opening). When Aerropostal was reborn as a Venezuelan company in the 1950s it re-established POS as a route and in all of its subsequent guises POS was the one staple on its route map. Thus, the histories of VH and POS are indeed inextricably linked.
The world economy is in a major mess right now and the Caribbean will not be immune - indeed the spill-over is happening already (food prices soaring, some flights cut by DL for instance and the demise of the Tobago Hilton, now nationalised).
If BW restarted GND it would be as a feeder to its services to JFK, MIA and YYZ. It would have a hard fight to gain O&D market share from LI who do the route 4 or 5 times a day.
at the moment LI only flies to GND 3 times daily, but they are adding another flight which operates 4 time weekly effective July 3rd.
I dont doubt that there is money to be made in GND for BW because in the days with star and liat competing, there were 8 flights daily to GND and during the busy periods all of these flights would be full and even now in the off season with the 3 daily flights, they sometimes still are sold out.
If BW had a once daily flight during the off season and two flights daily during the busy periods they could make some $
As said, when CAL restarts POS-GND it will be for connection purposes and some business, and CAL will not compete with LI, its the last thing they want to do. GND has many potential so lets see what happens.
POS is not immune to the world as mentioned, inflation is high because of the high investment of replacing old infrastructure that the Government wants to finish is such a short pace of time. IMO they could slow things down a bit to bring down the inflation rate and crime is another story but thats with the people.
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5304 times:
Quoting Trintocan (Reply 8): If BW restarted GND it would be as a feeder to its services to JFK, MIA and YYZ. It would have a hard fight to gain O&D market share from LI who do the route 4 or 5 times a day.
I beg to differ. BW when it operated BWee Express, carried a considerable amount of O&D passengers, at one point it did it with 8B and LI in the market as well. The only flight that had an almost majority connection passengers was teh afternoon flight with JFK and LHR connections, mostly LHR. Whats more, the flights that were full of connecting passengers were usually around peak seasons, with other direct services already full. If the service were to restart, though some passengers would be connecting the majority still would be O&D.
Quoting LIA310 (Reply 9): I don't doubt that there is money to be made in GND for BW because in the days with star and liat competing, there were 8 flights daily to GND and during the busy periods all of these flights would be full and even now in the off season with the 3 daily flights, they sometimes still are sold out.
BWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5261 times:
MD90fan asked me to tell you guys that he has been really busy with school SAT and finals and that's why he has not been posting!
On CAL and GND
I really do not buy the whole CAL not wanting to compete with LI and this is simply due to the mentality of POS businessmen and to believe that it will be different with CAL is ludicrous! Of course they are not going to go after LI like who 8B but as the saying goes 'there is more than one way to skin a cat'
POS GND is going to be O/D with limited connecting traffic if this fall start is true then two main US markets out of GND would be served with a direct flight!
AA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3365 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5258 times:
Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 15): I really do not buy the whole CAL not wanting to compete with LI and this is simply due to the mentality of POS businessmen and to believe that it will be different with CAL is ludicrous!
I thought you had a better understanding of aviation/ politics in the region than that.
The only reason CAL will not compete with LI aggressive is to avoid a fallout with the smaller regional Governments who are spending their countries' life savings supporting LI. I'm sure CAL would love to compete and try to wipe LI out of business, but politically it would be a nightmare, and while sometimes the smaller islands can be a burden on the GoTT, they often come in useful with regards votes, support and regional integration. Also, The GoTT was the one who facilitated a large loan to LI last year, they really don't want to shoot themselves in the foot. Idealy there will eventually be close co-operation between the two. Until then we will see reserved and tame competition!
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3211 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5233 times:
SCL767, about photos of Pan Am's seaplanes in both Trinidad and Tobago, the book "A History of Aviation in Trinidad and Tobago" by Michael Anthony has photos. The book was published way back in 1986 and as far as I know has not been updated but a used copy may be available if you search for it.
On another front, BW did not operate TAB - LHR / LGW flights and the BA route to LGW from there was started as far back as 1998. At the time of starting the route it owned Caledonian Airways which had a TAB route from 1993 but later in the decade it was planning to divest itself of Caledonian. Caledonian became jmc soon after that and left TAB in 2001 - jmc itself later became part of myTravel and is now Thomas Cook UK. The BA route to TAB is thus a stand-alone affair and completely unrelated to the POS service which was largely started at the behest of the T&T Government when BW decided to cede its LHR slots to BA. VS was also in the running but did not want to fly from POS. The BW codeshares will from November cover the LGW - UVF - POS flights as well as some LGW - BGI flights.
I do have a good understanding about Caribbean Aviation and the related politics but I also have this stupid idea that POS wants CAL to be a truly regional airline and that they are not going to wait for the share holder governments of LI to come around to POS way of thinking. The funniest thing is that I think that CAL has come up with a strategy to achieve this however given your comments I am given CAL and GOTT much more credit than they apparently deserve!
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 17): So you don't think BW could make this work? I know BW has many loyal flyers at POS that would chose BW over LIAT any day!
BW POS GND from what was said in this thread is going to serve O/D and connecting traffic to YYZ JFK MIA (mainly the latter 2).
GND already has direct service to JFK and by fall 08 when CAL starts GND will have direct service to MIA.
Therefore I am saying that POS GND by BW will have more O/D traffic because of the direct flights GND has to JFK and the direct flight that GND will have to MIA starting this fall.
I am not questioning if BW can make POS GND work because of LI all I am saying is that the connecting traffic BW will see IMO will be minimal.
AA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3365 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5144 times:
Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 20): The funniest thing is that I think that CAL has come up with a strategy to achieve this however given your comments I am given CAL and GOTT much more credit than they apparently deserve!
CAL and the GoTT have no masterplan to rule the region. They could if they wanted, but the fragile nature of regional competition makes the disadvantages far greater than the advantages. Regional Governments will retaliate more than proportionately. T&T would loose a lot of it's political power (voting wise), it might loose landing rights/ 5th freedom rights among other things, further isolating T&T in the region. We are already looked upon unfavourably due to the fact that the region's oil/ gas bill has risen tremendously while we have profited!
Trust me, the intentions to create a more extensive regional carrier (not a truly regional carrier though. CAL will eventually start to fly only the lucrative inter-island routes when the moment is right.
On the point about creating a truly regional carrier. Pie in the sky. You know as well as I do that regional carrier and profits cannot go in the same sentence and CAL is focussing on profits right now. Some inter-island routes are necessary to facilitate the movement of people and cargo and due to the demographics of the populations, some of those flights will probably never make money. Of course there are flights which are big money earners- POS-BGI, BGI-UVF/SLU, POS-ANU to name a few.
Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 20): I am not questioning if BW can make POS GND work because of LI all I am saying is that the connecting traffic BW will see IMO will be minimal.
Agree 100%. The only connexions that will be made in POS will be cheaper flights or if non-stop flights ex GND are booked flying via POS will be an alternative. POS-GND will definitely be primarily O&D as BWIA772 said.
SCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8526 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5119 times:
Quoting AA1818 (Reply 21): Some inter-island routes are necessary to facilitate the movement of people and cargo and due to the demographics of the populations, some of those flights will probably never make money. Of course there are flights which are big money earners- POS-BGI, BGI-UVF/SLU, POS-ANU to name a few.
Agreed. I'll bet service to GND will be announced by fall and will be a welcomed new option to traveller's on both islands.
Caribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2583 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5093 times:
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 22): Agreed. I'll bet service to GND will be announced by fall and will be a welcomed new option to traveller's on both islands.
Quoting AA1818 (Reply 21): Agree 100%. The only connexions that will be made in POS will be cheaper flights or if non-stop flights ex GND are booked flying via POS will be an alternative. POS-GND will definitely be primarily O&D as BWIA772 said.
The service will indeed much be welcomed by the people, more options, frequent flyer miles and better schedule. With AA starting flight in the fall, people using connecting flights will be limited in POS but as said more options with possible competitive fares also. If things go well with the negotiations right now, GND and SLU could see some fall flights.
HummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2955 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5073 times:
Cayman Airways reconsidering winglets
Cayyman Airways Ltd (CAL) is reconsidering using the fuel-saving devices known as winglets to help counteract continually increasing fuel prices with which the entire aviation industry is struggling.
Chris Stafford, of Aviation Partners Boeing, last week visited the Cayman Islands at the request of CAL to discuss options regarding winglets. The devices are attached to the end of a plane’s wing and by smoothing out the drag created in flight reduce the amount of fuel required by the aircraft.
“Obviously the new environment of fuel prices these days has made [using winglets] make a lot more sense,” Mr Stafford said.
An aging fleet coupled with the fact that CAL leases all of its aircraft has posed difficulties for the company in installing the winglets, which cost US$650,000 a pair.
“They are leasing aircraft so it’s obviously going to require the leaser to either contribute financially” or help out in other ways, Mr Stafford said, but he added that “there certainly have been investments by the leasers on vintage ‘90s aircraft before”.
According to CAL Deputy Board Chair Johnny Brown: “We have to complete the study and figure whether it makes financial sense to do it. If it does then we have to negotiate with our leasing company to try to see if we can get them to bear the costs or share the costs.”
Aviation Partners Boeing is working with CAL on a “business case” to present to the airline’s leasing company to determine the economic feasibility of retrofitting the fleet with winglets, Mr Stafford explained.
In 2006, CAL first looked at installing the winglets but the company from which they lease all of their 737-300s, International Lease Finance Corporation, would not agree to a cost-sharing program, so the plan was dropped.
CAL recently received an emergency injection of $4 million from the Cayman Islands Government to cover a fuel-price-induced cost overrun. Global energy experts do not foresee an end to the rising prices any time soon.
Mr Brown said that winglets in effect take some of the burden off engines, which cost millions to maintain. “[Winglets] improve the performance of the airplane; you can actually take off using a little less power, which means the engine runs a little cooler and that extends the life of the engine.”
Aviation Partners Boeing estimates on their website that their winglets have saved more than a billion gallons of fuel. Mr Stafford estimates that on CAL’s New York to Grand Cayman route the carrier could save as much as 200 gallons of fuel per round trip flight.
Over time, the devices could save CAL hundreds of thousands of dollars, depending on the total hours the planes fly and the distance of each flight.
Aviation experts estimate that for planes equipped with winglets, shorter flights, such as the Grand Cayman to Kingston route, will save 2 percent to 3 percent on fuel usage, while longer flights - to New York, for example - will cut fuel consumption by 5 percent to 6 percent.
Asked whether it is frustrating for CAL to be pulling in record revenue and still losing money, Mr Brown told Cayman Net News, “It’s a tough business, you know. We’ve made a lot of improvements but fuel [prices are] unfortunately eroding a lot of the savings we’ve made, but we just have to keep doing it.”
25 Leftcoaster: KX is also about to put their 3rd 737-300 into service (Finally, after a lengthy delay) and retire their remaining -200, which should help out with fu
26 AA1818: I just received a reply from the journalist who published that Caribbean Airlines started FLL with 787s. He said they are looking into printing a corr
27 Captaink: Thanks for getting that cleared up, Becuase reading the article, I ended thinking, but I haven't smoked in a long time, what is wrong with me. JAJAJA
28 JM079: Tourism and Aviation Ministers from the sub-region will meet in Antigua this week to discuss the latest crisis facing regional tourism, sparked by the
29 Turk223: So, Delta is reducing BGI service... Yet another feather in AA's cap. You would think that with a little advertising, perhaps Delta could do a bit bet
30 SCL767: Same with POS-ATL, no advertisements when service first started! DL JFK-GEO starts soon, I wonder if DL has been advertising in the NY and GEO areas?
31 2travel2know: Even a twice weekly E190 PTY-BGI-PTY (best ron BGI) could work.
32 SCL767: Is BGI served by any Venezuelan carriers?
33 A388: Well I am still hoping CM will start PTY-CUR flights. It has still not happened but why not? A388
34 Caribbean484: Quoting JM079 (Reply 28): Well, at least in times like this they can see the value in Air Jamaica and CAL. Even though I am peeved that regional carri
35 Caribbean484: Nope, if you want to you have to go the POS. This can be a good run for Copa, they reached POS before they have CUR.
36 MIAMIx707: When is Insel Air planning to fly to Miami? Didn't they get approval already? PS: What's interesting about that map of Cuba is that besides Havana and