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Is Frontier Really A Whole Different Animal?  
User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9460 times:

Since their restart, Frontier Airlines has tried to do things differently than their competitors. Hence the slogan, "A Whole Different Animal." I know several people that fly Frontier exclusively and they are beginning to become disappointed at the airline that has always been there for them. On their recent trip back from ASE to IAH (via DEN) they said that their flight was not as enjoyable as their previous ones. They said they weren't expecting much on the Lynx flight, but they are used to Frontier's mainline standards. This time they just did not live up to their normal standard.

One thing that my friend was disappointed in was the lack of free snacks. They said they are starting to sell these snack options at five bucks a piece and on the shorter flights, they do not sell anything at all. You can't even get a free back of trail mix, if they are even offered. I understand that times are tough in the industry due to fuel costs and such but I guess this is necessary.

They also said that the exceptional customer service that was once offered just wasn't the same at all this time around. Maybe since the bankruptcy filing, F9's crew is beginning to show a drag in employee morale. I think recently they took a pay cut too. I wish Frontier the best of luck while they are in bankruptcy though. Hopefully they will emerge as a stronger airline and will actually turn a profit each quarter. I do not only hope this for the company but also for all of their hard working employees.

Last but not least, the DirecTV service prices have increased. I explained to them that but increasing the price for the PTV usage will add quite a bit of revenue. However, JetBlue still offers their TV service free.

To wrap this all up, is Frontier using it edge? Will we see the old Frontier we once knew? The Frontier that sincerely was A Whole Different Animal?


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25071 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9431 times:
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I doubt that this thread will go anywhere good.

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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5652 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9431 times:



Quoting JetBlueAUS (Thread starter):
Since their restart, Frontier Airlines has tried to do things differently than their competitors. Hence the slogan, "A Whole Different Animal." I know several people that fly Frontier exclusively and they are beginning to become disappointed at the airline that has always been there for them. On their recent trip back from ASE to IAH (via DEN) they said that their flight was not as enjoyable as their previous ones.

Before 2003, I was probably aside form Mariner, the BIGGEST (waistsize included) fan of F9 since their inception. The last time I noticed anything wrong with the service levels was two years ago, SLC-DEN-LGA, same problems JetBlueAUS noted above, the level of service was just not there.



Next trip: SLC-DEN-SLC-PHX-JFK-LAX-SLC with my wife and oldest daughter. F9 to and from DEN, US to JFK, AA 321 and CR7
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4383 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9379 times:
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I'm sure employee morale is down considering the Chapter 11 filing and the pay cuts. I mean, if you put yourself in their shoes, working hard for an airline that's losing money while you're making less in a tougher economy, you probably wouldn't be all smiles either.


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User currently offlineAirportGuy1971 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9321 times:



Quoting JetBlueAUS (Thread starter):
One thing that my friend was disappointed in was the lack of free snacks. They said they are starting to sell these snack options at five bucks a piece and on the shorter flights, they do not sell anything at all.

Snacks have been significantly upgraded from .75oz bag of sun chips to a 4 to 5oz bag of trail mix, chips or nuts or cereal/milk in the AM. The cost of the snack service is $3.00 not $5.00.

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Thread starter):
They also said that the exceptional customer service that was once offered just wasn't the same at all this time around. Maybe since the bankruptcy filing, F9's crew is beginning to show a drag in employee morale. I think recently they took a pay cut too.

Actually for the most part morale seems to be good. These folks are in a "whatever it takes" mode. Read this thread. Read Airplaneboy and NZBlue's entries for a small sampling of the employee morale. You may say they are the exception, but I see F9 employees more often than I should, and in my opnion, they are the rule, not the exception.

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Thread starter):
Last but not least, the DirecTV service prices have increased. I explained to them that but increasing the price for the PTV usage will add quite a bit of revenue. However, JetBlue still offers their TV service free.

If B6 could charge for the service don't you think that they would? They installed the initial service (back when oil was cheap) with Credit Card readers. They became known for giving it for free and any move to change that would be a blow to their reputation. By the way... F9 has lowered the cost of TV on the shorter segments to $3.99 from $5.00. This is simply a way to price the service right based on the stage length.


User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9307 times:



Quoting AirportGuy1971 (Reply 4):
Snacks have been significantly upgraded from .75oz bag of sun chips to a 4 to 5oz bag of trail mix, chips or nuts or cereal/milk in the AM. The cost of the snack service is $3.00 not $5.00.

Not their "gourmet" snack service.



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5652 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9272 times:



Quoting AirportGuy1971 (Reply 4):
If B6 could charge for the service don't you think that they would? They installed the initial service (back when oil was cheap) with Credit Card readers. They became known for giving it for free and any move to change that would be a blow to their reputation. By the way... F9 has lowered the cost of TV on the shorter segments to $3.99 from $5.00. This is simply a way to price the service right based on the stage length.

Didnt B6 buy the company that owns the technology?



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User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9266 times:



Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 6):
Didnt B6 buy the company that owns the technology?

Yeah, LiveTV is a wholly owned subsidary of JetBlue Airways. Previously, it was part of the Thales Group.



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User currently offlineAirportGuy1971 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9247 times:

When did F9 ever offer a "gourmet" snack service? There have been Highs (warm bagel, bread sticks, muffins, Lamar's Doughnuts) and Lows (frito's, dorito's and sun chips). The new Mountain Man, F9 branded snacks are very good and a good value based on what a similar product of a similar size would cost in any airport gift/snack shop. F9 is not in the sprial you seem to indicate.

It's a shame that everyone who wants to see F9 in a low morale, downward sprial will be dissapointed. F9 is flying tomorrow. And the next day. And the day after that. And the day after that. The employees are truly energized and engaged. Everyone is focused on running a safe, punctual, fun and friendly airline. Changes are happening, but they are necessay to ensure the continuation of this airline.

F9 folks are a scrapy bunch. From the CEO to the CSA, everyone is standing up, doing what they have to do to ensure that the proud birds with the blazing tails continue to grace the skies of Denver and the USA.


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25071 posts, RR: 85
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9227 times:
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Quoting AirportGuy1971 (Reply 8):
When did F9 ever offer a "gourmet" snack service?

It's a sort of a branding joke. The present snack offerings come from 'Griswald's Gourmet Cafe'. Nothing is priced above $3, as in this link:

http://www.frontierairlines.com/fron...r/flight-info/inflight-catering.do

I have heard they are planning to offer meals in the not too distant future.

Quoting AirportGuy1971 (Reply 8):
F9 folks are a scrapy bunch. From the CEO to the CSA, everyone is standing up, doing what they have to do to ensure that the proud birds with the blazing tails continue to grace the skies of Denver and the USA.

Yes.

mariner



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User currently offlineAirportGuy1971 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9079 times:



Quoting Mariner (Reply 9):
Yes.

mariner

Thanks to you, for being a voice of sanity in this forum.

Just after the Westpac debacle folks would refer to Frontier as "the little airline who could."

Well Frontier is still (relatively) a little airline. And they still "can".


User currently offlineJbernie From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9077 times:

How much $$ does Frontier make from the paid TV option? I am guessing that when you have 2 or 3 people traveling together only one needs to activate the tv service and you can at least watch something, not too good on the hearing part.

We flew Frontier for DEN-LAX-DEN on the trip last year (DEN-MEL), didn't bother with tv as I had the window, just look out and see what I can see along the way, even for an evening flight, Vegas stands out just a bit  Smile.

Could they benefit from a lower pricing model which would potentially encourage higher usage?

Living in DEN I hope they stay around, if nothing else the radio & tv ads are quite enjoyable and at least for the wife and I alot better than most of the rubbish commcericals that get played. Griswold the bear is always appreciated.


User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8989 times:

An airline is only as good as its employees. When I worked at the company, I always perceived F9 to be a "Whole different animal" because of the employees. Nonreving around the country on numerous airlines, trust me, I could always tell the difference. That is not to say that other airlines don't have great crew members. Heck, even at the much maligned Air Tran, there were some people who truly believed in the company's vision and put forth their best effort to show top notch customer service at all times. But I'd say at F9 and also back in the days of NJ, this was more apparent on a consistent basis. Let's face it...smaller companies in any industry tend to have a more close knit atmosphere, and it's easier for people take pride in the company they work for because of this. You feel like you are more than just "a number". Smaller airlines like F9 have open door policies for their CEO's (not sure now but I would think Sean would continue that trend) and other top management officials. It was sort of cool knowing that you could knock on the CEO's door and just have a chat about whatever was on your mind if he was around. I had several nice talks with Jeff Potter and they were all very informal. It was just nice to know that the option to do that was there. Anyway, I've always thought the "Whole different animal" monikor had less to do with the perks offered by flying F9 and more to do with the fact that the people of the company actually enjoy working there and, generally, it always showed.

[Edited 2008-05-25 03:21:56]

User currently offlineAirplaneBoy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 560 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8949 times:

Remember that the DirecTV pricing is no longer a decision made by F9. F9 no longer earns any revenue on DirecTV or movie sales. All proceeds go to LiveTV (B6's subsidiary) in exchange for F9 being allowed to provide their customers with this IFE option. In addition, the new pricing is a decision that was made by LiveTV - something F9 has no control over. Furthermore, for each DirecTV that F9 crewmembers comp, Frontier must pay LiveTV for the full cost of the service for that segment. For example, if F9 had 30 Ascent and Summit members on a DEN-SFO flight (where DirecTV is now priced at $5.99), F9 would have to comp and pay for all 30. If there was a delay of over 1 hour that was the fault of the airline, F9's policy states that all pax should receive DirecTV for free, which would theoretically mean that all 114-162 seats would have to be paid at $3.99 or $5.99 each to LiveTV.

Cheers


User currently offlineJohnClipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 842 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8840 times:



Quoting JetBlueAUS (Thread starter):
Since their restart, Frontier Airlines has tried to do things differently than their competitors. Hence the slogan, "A Whole Different Animal."

What "restart" are you referring to? F9 is in no way associated with the original Frontier Airlines that PeoplExpress bought in the 1980s.


User currently offlineTN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8803 times:

Has anyone flown ANY airline whose service is comparable to what it was 3-4 years ago? I doubt it. When financials are bad at the top, morale sucks and the bottom, and everyone feels it. That includes pax. I still get good flights on various airlines, just they are harder to come by but they do happen. All airlines are moving towards a central theme it seems. Zero service at more money. Get used to it while your favorite airline is STILL flying. Current rate, many will not be in a year or so.

User currently offlineFunkywabit From United States of America, joined May 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8784 times:



Quoting AirportGuy1971 (Reply 10):
Well Frontier is still (relatively) a little airline. And they still "can".

What they "cant" seem to do is arrange DIP financing..which means the vultures are circleing
Their employees are not dumb and know how serious the situation is..thats what you are seeing
I wish all the best to all the animals in DEN


User currently offlineBahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1775 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8715 times:

Do you complain about a restaurant service because they made you sit at the table not took you from A to B? Then why complain about the food service of a company whose primary goal is to take you from A to B safely? You all do this while seeking the lowest fare?
Frontier is a good airline. An airline that has direct tv service in domestic travel (one of few). The crews are 10 times nicer than the Southwest's in my last 3-4 trips with them.



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8629 times:

Airlines competing on "service" is an idea that is as dead and gone as the Soviet Union.

The last time an airline really made an effort was American's "More Room Throughout Coach". Customers voted with their pocketbook and said, "we're not paying extra for that". And that was with oil around $70 per barrel.

Airlines today can only compete on price, and that is killing them. I know that some airlines like to claim that "they're different", what with mood lighting, free directTV, and a "corporate culture unlike the other guys", but when it comes down to it, all airlines are the same. They are all losing money from the skyrocketing fuel prices and unless they raise their prices to cover the costs, some of them are going to die, regardless of "what kind of animal they are".

This is not me saying that I wish to see airlines die - quite the contrary. But to believe that the current nightmare situation we are in is going to change anytime soon is just wishful thinking. "Service" is a concept that really died out in the 1980's and 1990's. "Survival" is the only game left, and like a starving pack of wolves fighting over scarce resources, not everyone is going to survive.

To all Frontier employees, I hope and pray that your airline survives and comes through this. Not for me, but for you. This business is rough and getting rougher. I wish there were easy answers for you!!



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User currently offlineAirportGuy1971 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8597 times:



Quoting Funkywabit (Reply 16):
What they "cant" seem to do is arrange DIP financing..

And just how do you know this? I'm willing to stake a bet that your name isn't Menke. Just because they haven't been making the process public dosen't mean progress to securing financing isn't proceeding just as Mr. Menke thought it would given the current economic condition in the US. He's not giving up. Frontier's not going anywhere just because so many on A.net want it to. From what I hear, Mr. Menke is working his ass off to get the very best financing. That is (and should be) taking some time.

Should they just snap at the first offer if it's not the best?

I would never argue the statement that they haven't secured DIP financing, but to say that they can't is foolish.

I believe they can and I believe they will. Does that mean it will happen? Maybe, maybe not. But I can not make a difinitive statement like you seem to be able to...


User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4478 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8421 times:



Quoting JohnClipper (Reply 14):
What "restart" are you referring to? F9 is in no way associated with the original Frontier Airlines that PeoplExpress bought in the 1980s.

Incorrect. Much of F9's management team is made up of executives from the original airline. And many of the route structures are identical to the original. F9 was and is an attempt to bring back the Frontier brand and restore its former service market, with adjustments made for modern times, of course.

F9 could be said to be a similar attempt as Braniff II and Midway II. Both restarts attempted to resurrect what the original offered, some using original management. Unfortunately these restarts rarely succeed but so far F9 has been the exception.


User currently onlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2753 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8412 times:



Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 5):
Quoting AirportGuy1971 (Reply 4):
Snacks have been significantly upgraded from .75oz bag of sun chips to a 4 to 5oz bag of trail mix, chips or nuts or cereal/milk in the AM. The cost of the snack service is $3.00 not $5.00.

Not their "gourmet" snack service.

Actually, it is $3.00 for items from Grizwald's Gourmet Cafe. While certainly not a scientific study, the snacks seem to be selling well from what I've seen on a couple of their flights.



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User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8386 times:



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 21):
Actually, it is $3.00 for items from Grizwald's Gourmet Cafe. While certainly not a scientific study, the snacks seem to be selling well from what I've seen on a couple of their flights.

Ah, okay. Thanks for correcting me on that.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25071 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8339 times:
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Quoting Funkywabit (Reply 16):
What they "cant" seem to do is arrange DIP financing..which means the vultures are circleing

This seems to be latest mantra on a.net. Frontier has been in Chapter 11 six or seven weeks?

NWA went into Chapter 11 - without DIP financing - in September 2005. They arranged DIP financing in January 2007.

http://www.shearman.com/NewsEvents/N...5bb9f3-e2a0-433d-bbbc-1e0b56470f9d

Fifteen months.

mariner



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8220 times:



Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 20):
Incorrect. Much of F9's management team is made up of executives from the original airline. And many of the route structures are identical to the original. F9 was and is an attempt to bring back the Frontier brand and restore its former service market, with adjustments made for modern times, of course.

I think you are incorrect, Aloha717200. Different operating certificates. Just because some of the folks from the 'original' Frontier (What was the airline code for Fronter I anyway?!) does not make it the same airline. JohnClipper is correct.

As for the thread, the pricing for snacks just started May 1, 2008. I think the drinks (sodas, juice, etc..) are no longer complimentary. Can someone verify this?

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 20):
a similar attempt as Braniff II and Midway II.

But were these carriers operating on the original certificate? I think not.



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25 MSYtristar : Drinks are still complimentary. This isn't NK we're talking about here. The only "extras" you have to pay for on F9 are for the snacks, LiveTV and a
26 AirframeAS : Duh, I know. F9... F9... I know, thanks!
27 KingCavalier : The thread started with a reference to Frontier not offering free snacks. I don't think the $0.30 bag of Doritos or $0.04 bag of pretzels is what made
28 KingCavalier : As you know by now, it's a $3 price point. However, I want to add something to your reference to the shorter flights not selling a snack at all. This
29 AirFrnt : No way. There is no chance that anyone in their right mind would sign up under those circumstances. F9 would either pay for the service, and pocket t
30 KingCavalier : It's true. F9 gets no money from DirecTV under the new agreement.
31 LAXintl : The NWA and Frontier requirements for DIP financing are quite different. See NWA was pretty good off cash wise, and was able to sustain on going oper
32 N702ML : FL
33 Mariner : It is present understanding that Frontier intends to assume all the aircraft leases on the required date (June 8?), and is fully aware of the payment
34 AirportGuy1971 : Again I have to ask... When did you have a chance to look at F9's books? Is this a statement you can back up with authority, or are you speculating?
35 AirframeAS : Thank you.... I rest my case: FL is not F9, F9 will never be FL....ever.
36 LAXintl : No I have not seen F9s books - however we soon all will. Data for the quarter ending March 31st will be released, along with what I understand will b
37 Post contains links Mariner : I'm sure they would like to have it in place sooner rather than later. I'm sure they would like to exit Chapter 11 sooner rather than later, too. Uni
38 AirportGuy1971 : And yet you say... As if it is a published fact or you have inside information.
39 LAXintl : The info will be out soon enough so you can satisfy yourself by seeing them.
40 WesternA318 : To me, I think only CO, Aegean and BA are the same in their service levels. Doesnt matter about the certificates, the majority of the flying public w
41 AirportGuy1971 : And, I'm in no way going to have to taste a serving of crow. All I have stated is what I believe will be the eventual outcome. I have said I believe t
42 F9Animal : Yes, Frontier is still A Whole Different Animal. The tale of the tails are still a strong link to that motto. The employees of Frontier are not all p
43 Jbmitt : My understanding of the agreement is that B6's subsidary pays for the equipment and installation, therefore there is no cost for F9 to shoulder. It i
44 Rdwelch : Incorrect, the majority of the flying public do not compare or link the two different airlines. I'm flying one to two trips a week and the majority o
45 AirframeAS : The uninformed flying public doesn't even compare the original Frontier and they know the difference. See below.... I have confidence that F9 will pu
46 UltimateDelta : Why is this so debatable? It's mostly just for marketing purposes.
47 TN757Flyer : I'd agree with CO, and add WN. As for the other two haven't flown them so I can't say, I was really focusing on US carriers since they are to be the
48 JetBlueAUS : I hope Frontier does as well. Though, I must say, I do have my doubts. Its a shame our economy is tumbling like this. Perhaps it would have been bett
49 Airmike2 : Especially in middle and upper management.
50 Mariner : I've been flying longer than most of you have been alive. My first flight was at six months old, and the first I can remember clearly was at about te
51 TylerDurden : I wasn't overly impressed much with them when I flew them last year--but maybe my expectations were too high. No better or worse than Continental. Muc
52 JetBlueAUS : If Frontier goes belly up, it will not be because of Southwest Airlines. Frontier has stood their ground extremely well against Southwest and even ga
53 TylerDurden : Southwest will be the biggest nail in the coffin. There will be plenty more. Interesting does not necessarily make profitable. I don't care to see an
54 JetBlueAUS : Statistics show that United has taken more of a beating to Southwest than Frontier. Duh?
55 TylerDurden : It's a reply to your original post...which didn't seem too bright. So your saying that to yourself. They both suffer----Frontier just more severely f
56 JetBlueAUS : I was in, no way, implying that since Frontier was interesting that it ensures profitability. You might need to go and reread my original statement.
57 TheGreatChecko : So what was the issue on the Lynx flight? It was probably better than the other option. I know from experience that flight is way too short for any ki
58 F9Animal : Nope. Not going to happen. WN is a fine airline, but F9 will learn to adapt with WN in its backyard. All airlines have learned to adapt to WN in its
59 TN757Flyer : Most likely, many people outside of DEN don't even remember the original Frontier. It's been what 22 years since they disappeared? I was on an F9 fli
60 Orion737 : Could someone tell me what 'trail mix' is? it seems to be sold on lots of US Carriers? Is it the type of food that the people on the Frontier tails wo
61 TheGreatChecko : Trail mix is usually a mix of nuts and in some cases dried fruit and candied chocolate (M&Ms). I would imagine many of the tails would enjoy eating t
62 AirframeAS : Ahhh that sounds like Jack the Snowshoe Hare's favorite food! (N940FR)
63 Orion737 : So many of the BOB options are 'non perishables' in other words salted or sugared junk that the airline doesnt have to bother pre=heating or even serv
64 AirFrnt : Give me a break. Have you ever spent any time on a F9 flight? Trail Mix is very much a Colorado thing (we have these things here called mountains and
65 NWALAS : I could see this oil price problem coming 24 hours after 9/11. Now the crap has hit the fan. Why are people surprised at this??? NWALAS
66 MSYtristar : I think it's a great snack to serve, but come on. It's more than just a Colorado thing. It's a national thing.I have never heard of someone in the U.
67 NZblue : Test/Marketing flights for fresh salads and sandwiches begins in mid-June.
68 Post contains links LAXintl : A little news on F9s DIP search. story (subscription required) http://www.aviationweek.com/publicat...+Fees+Help+Frontier+Get+Its+DIP%3F
69 Iowaman : Supply and demand folks. We are just now seeing reductions in gasoline consumption (as much as 5.5%, probably more when May's report comes out) which
70 Watchandlearn : I just head a nasty rumor that Frontier is ceasing operations in the next day or two. Anyone hear something similar?
71 AirplaneBoy : That rumor has been around for quite a while (perhaps since ATA, Aloha, and several other airlines ceased operations). More than 2 days have passed s
72 Watchandlearn : Two days have passed since what? I just heard the rumor today. Frontier's bankruptcy petition is irrelevant. If they don't have the cash flow to fund
73 AirplaneBoy : I was referring to the rumor that "Frontier will be ceasing operations in 1-2 days." Many people have said that they've heard this rumor for the last
74 Watchandlearn : Fair enough.
75 Post contains links TheGreatChecko : http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...ses-16-million-during-three-weeks/ According to the article they have $108 million in unrestricted cash after l
76 FreequentFlier : Well considering the date listed in the bankruptcy court was April 30th and it's now nearly June, F9 likely burned through a lot more cash and is sti
77 Post contains links LAXintl : Frontier and First Data reach a new CC processing agreement. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080530/laf512.html?.v=7 Lets see how much restricted cash thi
78 JetBlueAUS : So would it be safe to book a flight on them in August? They are the cheapest to Durango, CO from Houston and Austin, TX. They are cheaper by like $1
79 TN757Flyer : I booked them for a BNA-DEN rt flight in September with no hesitation whatsoever. With the news that they've reached agreement with First Data, I'm b
80 Post contains links LAXintl : Some Frontier news updates. Expedia removes Frontier from its listings. http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_9420827 Frontier comes to agreement on s
81 AirframeAS : That is 100% not true. Its very much of a U.S. thing. Regardless of how much gasoline consumption is occurring, the price will still go up no matter
82 AirFrnt : I know. I get sick of the people attacking F9, but to attack poor defenseless trail mix,which has saved many a traveler from starvation at the top of
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