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NRT Passenger Given 140g Cannabis By Customs  
User currently offlineJamesontheroad From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 555 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10770 times:

From the BBC website. Now seems to be a good time to smuggle dope into Japan, since the dogs seem unable to find packages of up to 140g...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7419969.stm


Cannabis blunder at Tokyo airport
Page last updated at 10:34 GMT, Monday, 26 May 2008 11:34 UK

An unwitting passenger arriving at Japan's Narita airport has received 142g of cannabis after a customs test went awry, officials say.

A customs officer hid a package of the banned narcotic in a side pocket of a randomly chosen suitcase in order to test airport security.

Sniffer dogs failed to detect the cannabis and the officer could not remember which bag he had put it in.

Anyone finding the package has been asked to contact customs officials.

...continues


[Edited 2008-05-26 05:52:35]

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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10731 times:



Quoting Jamesontheroad (Thread starter):

That is a priceless story. Big grin Way to go Airport Security @ NRTBig grin


User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1047 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10622 times:

What if the owner of this suitcase travels to Singapore or Malaysia without checking the side pockets and gets caught by the customs there?

He/she will surely face a death penalty out there.



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10566 times:



Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 2):
What if the owner of this suitcase travels to Singapore or Malaysia without checking the side pockets and gets caught by the customs there?

Arriving in I guess... what if the guy did get caught in Japan and no-one told the other customs officers..



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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3551 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10547 times:
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Does customs have the right to tamper with passengers luggage? Is there any good Japanese lawyers?


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User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10534 times:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ms/non_aviation/read.main/1910329/ ...already discussed in non-av.

User currently offlineB747-4U3 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2002, 991 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10442 times:



Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 4):
Does customs have the right to tamper with passengers luggage? Is there any good Japanese lawyers?

Some friends of mine were asked if they would mind helping customs at LGW. Apparently they were asked if they would mind if customs placed some narcotics in their bag to see if the sniffer dog would pick it up. The dog did sniff out the drugs. I guess the difference here was that my friends were fully informed and asked if they would mind taking part in the test (nothing was done behind their back or without their consent).

I guess if the person was caught in Singapore after going to Narita, customs in Singapore would be able to verify if and when the passenger had passed through NRT and confirm with Japanese Customs that they had indeed planted the narcotic.


User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10376 times:



Quoting B747-4U3 (Reply 6):
I guess if the person was caught in Singapore after going to Narita, customs in Singapore would be able to verify if and when the passenger had passed through NRT and confirm with Japanese Customs that they had indeed planted the narcotic.

But you'd have to get customs in Singapore to believe your story first.

The first thing every intentional drug smuggler in the history of smuggling has said upon getting caught is "That's not mine! I don't know how that got in my bag!".



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User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10349 times:

Not only the initial amount, but any residue could cause the bag to be flagged at the next airport. I could see having pax "issued" a bag on the spot by customs, asked to carry it through, and turn in it at the end. But w/o warning? Seems odd to say the least.

Dave



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User currently offlineNitrohelper From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 470 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10271 times:



Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 2):
He/she will surely face a death penalty out there.

I believe that amount is below the minimum for the death penalty in Singapore, but would get jail time for sure.


User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10224 times:

Why couldn't customs have put it in one their own bags? They could have labelled the bag CUSTOMS TEST BAG or something similar so that this situation could not arise.

User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10136 times:



Quoting Davescj (Reply 8):
Not only the initial amount, but any residue could cause the bag to be flagged at the next airport.

Exactly. Remember the guy flying into DXB who had eaten a sandwich with poppy seeds on them who was given a 4-year jail term in DXB because of the 3 seeds stuck in his clothes?

Sounds like your worst nightmare scenario.



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User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9622 times:

I would crap my pants if someone did that to me with out telling me. I would think someone in NRT would come to the resuce of that person if she/he was to travel on to another country with it in their suit case. If not. That is just wrong for them to do that without telling the pass.

chuck


User currently offlineYYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9281 times:



Quoting Cricket (Reply 3):
Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 2):
What if the owner of this suitcase travels to Singapore or Malaysia without checking the side pockets and gets caught by the customs there?

Arriving in I guess... what if the guy did get caught in Japan and no-one told the other customs officers..



Quoting B747-4U3 (Reply 6):
Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 4):
Does customs have the right to tamper with passengers luggage? Is there any good Japanese lawyers?


Some friends of mine were asked if they would mind helping customs at LGW. Apparently they were asked if they would mind if customs placed some narcotics in their bag to see if the sniffer dog would pick it up. The dog did sniff out the drugs. I guess the difference here was that my friends were fully informed and asked if they would mind taking part in the test (nothing was done behind their back or without their consent).

Eeep.

Even if you were beleived and the story checked out with NRT officials, you could end up spending days in jail. And in places worse that Singapore (IIRC Vietnam has simlar rules). Nice way to spend your vacation.

And as for the practice of using real suitcases, even IF the sample was retreived (and there is risk of conviction) there might still be residue left on your suitcase - then you find yourself targetted by sniffer dogs in future airports, land crossings etc.. You could end up getting the rubber glove treatment over and over, and never have any idea why.


User currently offlineKennyK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 482 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8321 times:



Quoting Art (Reply 10):
They could have labelled the bag CUSTOMS TEST BAG or something similar so that this situation could not arise.

There is no point labelling the bag, the dog probably has a higher IQ that its handler and might be able to read the label and that would give the game away  eyebrow 


User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1052 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7303 times:



Quoting Cricket (Reply 3):
Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 2):
What if the owner of this suitcase travels to Singapore or Malaysia without checking the side pockets and gets caught by the customs there?

Arriving in I guess... what if the guy did get caught in Japan and no-one told the other customs officers..

doesn't matter if arriving in. I, for example, never have anything in the side pockets, and thus never check them. Thus, the cannabis could be in there weeks/months later when I travel again. It is REALLY shocking that such thing can happen. They can place things into bags for test purposes, but must have consent of the owner for it!

Cheers
micha


User currently offlineFlyingClrs727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7216 times:

I'd sure hate to be connecting in NRT to SIN and have a bag of cannabis planted in my bags. That's a capital crime in Singapore.

User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7017 times:



Quoting KennyK (Reply 14):
Quoting Art (Reply 10):
They could have labelled the bag CUSTOMS TEST BAG or something similar so that this situation could not arise.

There is no point labelling the bag, the dog probably has a higher IQ that its handler and might be able to read the label and that would give the game away

The dog may indeed excel at reading but appears not to have mastered the art of sniffing out massive lumps of cannabis. Next time they try this sort of test it might be more successful if the handler and dog switch roles. Smile


User currently offlineFlyingClrs727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6934 times:



Quoting Nitrohelper (Reply 9):
I believe that amount is below the minimum for the death penalty in Singapore, but would get jail time for sure.

Are the jails there anything like the ones in "Midnight Express"?


User currently offlineSleeperseat From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6701 times:

Looks like this guy is having a good time when he opens his suitcase.  knockout 

Just kidding, wouldn't it be worth at least to trace the possible passangers who potentially got this little present into their suitcase?


User currently offlineHapppyLandings From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6393 times:

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User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6044 times:



Quoting Nitrohelper (Reply 9):
I believe that amount is below the minimum for the death penalty in Singapore

The amount of drugs to get a death penalty in Singapore is very minimal and I mean extremley minimal


User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6017 times:

OHLHD airport security have nothing to do with a passengers smuggling anything out through customs at any airport, you should change that to well done customs at NRT, Its this sort of thinking that give security at airports a bad name. You cant attack or hijack an aircraft with a bag of cocaine!

User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5818 times:

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 21):
The amount of drugs to get a death penalty in Singapore is very minimal and I mean extremley minimal

I'm guessing 140 grams (that's FIVE OUNCES, folks!) would more than exceed the minimum amount for a death penalty in Singapore.

[Edited 2008-05-26 18:21:00]


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User currently offlineMrBrightSide From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 202 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

Everybody talks about Singapore... in all honesty, that is not the only Asian state where NRT connects and where you would be in a BIG trouble if any drugs were detected.

Why nobody mentions BKK and Thailand? You can end up in hot water there... not exactly capital punishment, but a lengthy prison sentence would be in order. Similar thing applies even to Taiwan (TPE), Malaysia etc etc etc.

Singapore is really harsh and ruthless, but it is not the only place in Asia where you would not be screwed badly.

Truth to be told, if a package with 140g of cannabis would be found, it would be easily traced back to Japanese customs, since police agencies work together. I bet you an internal alert went through interpol, and only got to press by accident.

Judging by this thread, now all of a sudden journalists are not a useless bunch, but actually can serve as a public service, ei?

What if this SNAFU hasn't been discovered by press... and I would bet this is not the first time it happened.



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25 Post contains links and images FlashFlyGuy : Not in Singapore, but THIS was the 5 Star accommodation in Kuala Lumpur until recently. Didn't get to see the new one, but I'm sure I still wouldn't
26 Cessna172RG : Ok, so I have a question... Every time I arrive at Narita, there's a walkway for connecting passengers. While i've never connected...my question is th
27 Nzrich : Hell its not just Asia but onward connections to any country .. What about a country like New Zealand that xrays every single piece of baggage arrivin
28 NWAatNGO : This was a big news item here yesterday. The typical new conference was held with a bunch of idiot gov't types apologizing for the mishap. They reques
29 DocLightning : I think this might be above and beyond anything ever... ...the absolute most hilariously ironic thing I've ever read in my life.
30 KLM11 : Wow all I can say is that is one lucky passenger!!! I find it interesting that they would use such a large amount for testing when most drug trafficke
31 Luv2cattlecall : According to the GoogleGods, it's not priceless...it's actually worth about $450! No kidding! I'm (legally) on a medication that's a controlled subst
32 Post contains links NWAatNGO : Here is a link about the story. http://www.japantoday.com/category/c...rug-goes-missing#show_all_comments Hope it works,
33 DocLightning : Five ounces of marijuana is about 80 standard units of sale (I went to college in California). When I was about 23, I was flying back from Europe and
34 Goldorak : A similar crazy story happened at CDG2 a few years ago. The Police put some explosives in a random bag (belonging to a pax) for a detection test. They
35 TSS : Only $90 an ounce? Is it nothing but twigs and seeds? The last I heard very mediocre stuff was going for around $35 per quarter ounce here, so $35 x
36 MD11Engineer : An American colleague told me astory about a DC-8, which was for several years stored at some Texas airport (I forgot the name of the place, but he to
37 Farzan : I believe that amount of dope would result in the mandatory death penalty in Singapore. And if not, then don't forget that jail time comes with a num
38 Burkhard : Well - this time they lost the cocaine. It is fair to assume this was the first time they lost it - not the first time they made these tests. All this
39 FlashFlyGuy : And a caning is also something you don't want to experience, it's not your normal naughty boy slap. The idea of a caning is to flail the butt cheeks
40 Nitrohelper : When I was flying through Singapore in the '90s the maximum for Cannabis was 500 grams. First time offenders got five years and three strokes with th
41 Coronado990 : Geez. All this over one of god's natural creations. Poor god. Can't get anything right.
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