I don't know if you guys have noticed this picture, but this picture is fake.
1. Sunlight shining from the back of the "spotters", see their shadows. However, the snow and the trees on the hill in the background do not show any shadows or sunlight reflection. Therefore, the background and the people can't be in the same picture. The background is an add-on.
2. Take a look at the lady on the left-most side. She is in her SHORT SLEEVES! If she is on a mountain covered with snow, it should be damn cold and windy. It would not make sense to take her snow coat off. Don't forget the windchill factor!
3. Where is the plane going to land?! On top of those "spotters"?
4. Those two man are not in snow coat. And, how come they don't wear snow boots if they are really on the mountain? That doesn't make sense either.
5. The guy on the right-most is bald! Does he feel cold without a hat?!
6. Are those two ladies Saints?! How come there are lights around their heads!!
you make your own judgement.
I have made mine.
747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2789 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2445 times:
This airport is infamous for it's bizarre geographic composition. To comment on your criticisms:
1: The mountain in the background may well be fifty miles away - go to a mountain top sometime and see if the sun is the same on all of them. There is absolutely no way of telling based on lighting.
2: The lady's attire isn't entirely remarkable. She does have a coat, she seems to have removed it for the time though I can't see any reason for which this is unusual. In Alaska I walked in shortsleeves right next to large patches of snow at high elevation.
3: The plane is going to land on the runway. If you've never seen that runway I can understand. However I promise it's there. It has a rather substantial bend downhill in it.
4: The men are doing what the photographer was doing, watching the plane land. Don't think those men went mountain climbing. They are probably not more than a few hundred yards from the end of the runway, notice that the plane is pointed at them. Who cares what kind of coat they're wearing?
5: The guy isn't quite bald, and really - if you're walking by and stop to watch a plane land you're not going to don special equipment.
6: The lights around their heads are merely patches of snow on the opposing ill-lit mountain face.
7: Why, of all the pictures to fake, would someone compose this?!
I have made my judgement indeed. Looks real to me. None of the typically visible merging seems from cut'n'paste operations and no unacountable alterations in lighting (i.e. a pink tint to one half while a blue to the other). Looks genuine.
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Qantas737 From Australia, joined Jul 2000, 738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2349 times:
Would you guys (Red panda) stop accusing every great shot as "fake". I really think that is up to Johan to decide. How do you know it is fake, that the sunlight doesnt look perfect for you, are you crazy!!! Why cant you people just accept a great picture for what it is!! This really does get tiring after a while. Its sadens me to see people say such harsh comments about another's great artistic capapbilitys. As the other replys suggest, this photo is fantastic and congratulations to Markus herzig for taking such a brilliant photo and sharing it with us, I appreciate it very much.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39670 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2314 times:
Johan is pretty strict about what pictures makes it into the database. I had 18 pictures rejected by Johan! Some were OK and some I thought were great. I doubt Johan would let a fake picture make it into the database.
Red Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2323 times:
If it is a true photo as you guys say, I would appreciate it. But there were some fake pix got their way into the database before. I just wanna know others' comments on this photo cuz it looks fake to me. I appreciate many great photos here in the DB, like those best shots in a week, 2 weeks, 1 months, last 365 days and ever. I especially like those nearly crashed pix, such as landing in crosswind.
Ryaneverest From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2254 times:
I know by fact this photo is a real one. However I understand why Red Panda would say it's fake because this airport (Courchevel, France) is really an odd one. I can't even believe somebody would actually build an airport in such a place.
I knew this airport from this URL. This is the website of a commercial Courchevel scenery for Microsoft Flight Simulator and might help you understand the shot.
Victor Hotel From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 305 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2210 times:
This is an excellent photo indeed, and obviously not fake. The what semes to be light around one of the ladies head(the one on the left) looks to me like its juts wispy hair coming out. The lady next to the one with her coat in her arms has a ski lift ticket on her arm suggesting they are somewhere near a ski field and it looks as if the lady on the left has ski boots on. Anyway this is truely a great pic.
Buff From Australia, joined Mar 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2168 times:
Taken with a fairly long lens, i.e. a telephoto, the compression caused as a result is stunning.
Mr. Panda's comment #1 does not take into account the distance to the background mountain slope, probably in the area of 6 or more miles: detail such as individual shadows will be lost; comments #2 - 5 don't reflect much experience in mountainous areas in summer time; comment #6 is easily explained by the bare patch of trees on the distant mountain slope coincidentally in line with her head!
All in all, perhaps Mr. Panda could use a course in photographic technique!
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2122 times:
Mountain and snow in background with no sun but sun on people.
Ever hear of a cloud?
People in short sleeves on mountains?
You know there could be three feet of snow under those people and the temperature could be 60-70 degrees that day. One day of warm temperatures won't melt snow all the way.
We had a foot of snow last December in Detroit, but we had a 60 degree day in January and there was snow on the ground.
Haven't you heard of people skiing in Colorado in the spring and summer? They do, if they had a good snowy winter with several feet of snow on the ground it lasts until spring and people do occassionally ski in 70 degree weather as long as it wasn't a week of warm temperatures.
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2061 times:
Being on the mountains doesnt necesarily mean its cold-I was at 10,000 ft. on Mt. Rainier and it was warm enough to wear t-shirts-I was also at 12,000 ft. in the Rockies and we were wearing shorts and t-shirts...
Also, many mountain airports have sloped landing areas, go to Nepal, a lot of them are sloped...
High altitude affects your distance judging ability as well, for all you know that mountain in the background could be 30 miles away...
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