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24 Of '08 ... A Celebration Of Shannon  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12468 posts, RR: 37
Posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7999 times:

Good morning folks and happy Tuesday!

As we've reached No. 24/08, I thought we could shift our focus away from Dublin a bit and head southwest, towards Aerfort na Sionna.

Well, that's enough about Shannon for now. Next week, Cork, Knock, Donegal and Kerry.

Only kidding folks: I know that with the SNN-LHR route gone and with transatlantic flights always feeling threatened, there's probably some nervousness at Shannon, particularly with the increasing cost of fuel. Shannon remains an important economic engine for its hinterland and despite the improvements in airline technology, it remains and is always likely to remain the preferred diversion airport for transatlantic flights. This isn't meant to be a eulogy, of course, because when you set aside the concerns, Shannon still handles over 3m passengers a year, which is no small achievement. It's a very pleasant airport to fly through and I'm sure, from a pilot's point of view, very pleasant to fly into.

So, hat's off to Shannon. Long may it continue to grow.

Now, what else has been happening this week on the Irish aviation front? Not a lot really. Oil is going to be the dominant issue; Michael O'Leary is, of course - in his ever-diplomatic manner - predicting the demise of Aer Lingus and others; I can't help wondering whether FR is more at risk if oil rises as much as predicted; people fly FR because it's the cheapest, not because they want to, but if - as suspected - FR has messed up its hedging and can no longer viably offer the same fares as it has done, then it could find itself in a serious situation; sure, it has a good cushion of cash now, but that can only last for so long. Grounding 20 airplanes, on which repayments are still being made (?) is not going to help much.

However, enough doom and gloom! There's plenty still to be optimistic about.

When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble; give a whistle
And this will help things turn out for the best
And always look on the bright side of life ...

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User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7952 times:

4U397 todays DUB-CGN diverted back to DUB due to some oxegen problems, all ok thankfully.

BA start LCY-DUB next week should be interesting to see how it goes.

I had the pleasure of being introduced to G-MEDN today the newest A321 in bmi's fleet painted in the new colours, its even nicer than the SK A321s and they are beautiful.

Ive booked a day return trip next wedensday DUB-LHR-DUB with BD so hopfully DN will but in another appearance for me!


User currently onlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2903 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7937 times:

Anyone know when full CBP facilities will be opened in SNN?


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineCallBell From Germany, joined Mar 2008, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7932 times:

If full CBP facilities open in SNN and DUB, will that mean an end to In-Flight Duty Free sales on flights leaving Ireland?

User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7884 times:

EI's AGM is next week, it will be interesting to see if there is anything new to come out of it. Anyone going? apparently anyone can go as long though they will not be able to speak or ask questions.

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
hedging

Isn't this more to do with accounting rather then anything else?

Quoting CallBell (Reply 3):
If full CBP facilities open in SNN and DUB, will that mean an end to In-Flight Duty Free sales on flights leaving Ireland?

My first instinct was to say no.... but there's some logic to that. I don't think it will effect Duty Free.



John Hancock
User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7866 times:

I just got some nice postcards from a friend of mine that where given out at the press conference of the 50th anniversary of T/A flight for EI.

It has nice pictures some real some drawings of aircraft, uniforms and brevets from each decade. And some interesting information from each decade.

Here's a few snippets according to them

In 1956 EI adopted the "lightening flash" livery.
In 1965 EI adopted the Aer Lingus Irish International livery
In 1974 EI adopted the Green livery with the white shamrock (which provoked outrage amongst purists)
In 1996 EI adopted the current livery.

In 1963 Three ATL Carvers are used for freight and passengers with cars. The success of car ferries in the mid sixties make them uneconomical.

In 1961 the airline celebrates it's 25th anniversary and is put on a 6p stamp.

In 1965 Aer Lingus introduced four BAC 1-11's, all of them remained in the fleet until 1991

In 1983 Aer Lingus Commuter started operation with Shorts 330 and Shorts 360.

In 1986 The Airline celebrates its fiftieth anniversary and again is on a stamp... this time costing 46p



John Hancock
User currently offlineSURFER From Ireland, joined May 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7790 times:

AmricanShamrok:
Anyone know when full CBP facilities will be opened in SNN?

Its now looking as if CBP wont be up and running until spring of 2009.Its the legislation between US and Irish governments which is the delaying the process.Work on the new facility here in snn should start very soon.


User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1477 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7783 times:



Quoting Smokeyrosco (Reply 5):
ATL Carvers

That should be Carvair, by the way, from car v(ia) air.


User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7759 times:

Great opening Kaitak, and hopefully we'll have the return of SNN-LHR in 2009 in the form of BD/EI or even better again, BA themselves  cool . With long-term commitments from DL and CO and with US still showing interest and EI's commitment to SNN still appearing pretty solid, hopefully the SAA will be able to develop further T/A services in the years ahead.

O'Leary pursues %u20AC25k debt

MULTI-MILLIONAIRE Ryanair boss Michael O%u2019Leary has taken a horse racing enthusiast to court over a debt of %u20AC24,772.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishex...qqa=ireland-qqqid=63737-qqqx=1.asp

Security costs blamed for BAA losses
28/05/2008 - 08:52:19

Airports operator British Airport Authority today counted the cost of tighter security measures and money spent on the troubled launch of Heathrow's Terminal 5 as it reported a £51m (€64.2m) operating loss for the first three months of the year.
http://www.sbpost.ie/breakingnews/business/mhgbmhqlidoj/


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26981 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7755 times:

Sunworld's profit slumps by 24pc

Sunworld, the Irish tour operator owned by UK-based Thomas Cook, saw profits slump by 24pc to €2.26m in the financial year to the end of October 2007 as increased competition in the market weighed on the firm.

Accounts just filed show that turnover for the period grew marginally to €54.2m from €53.2m, while the dividend paid to the operator's parent was slashed from €2m to €1.5m.

All of Sunworld's turnover is generated in the Republic of Ireland.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...profit-slumps-by-24pc-1389588.html

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Aer Lingus ultimatum to SR Technics on contracts
AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE company SR Technics said it needs to reach agreement with workers on cost-cutting measures by the end of the week if it is to sign a crucial new contract with Aer Lingus.

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/0528/1211830492747.html


User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7741 times:



Quoting Dstc47 (Reply 7):
That should be Carvair, by the way, from car v(ia) air.

I think thats what I originally typed but the spell check didn't like it.



John Hancock
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26981 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7689 times:

I see QF are accelerating the withdrawal of their 743 fleet and may ground some 744´s due to the soaring fuel prices. Also they are retiring a 737 and axing some Domestic routes. They are also re thinking some international routes. Its hitting them hard apparently. I wonder if EI will amalgamate some of the JFK services if loads warrant it ??

User currently onlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2903 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7668 times:



Quoting SURFER (Reply 6):
Its now looking as if CBP wont be up and running until spring of 2009.Its the legislation between US and Irish governments which is the delaying the process.Work on the new facility here in snn should start very soon.

I was kinda hoping it would open before DUB's facility in T2, to give SNN a competitive edge but meh...



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineEI787 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1513 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7592 times:
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Quoting Shamrock321 (Reply 1):
4U397 todays DUB-CGN diverted back to DUB due to some oxegen problems, all ok thankfully.

Apparently the oxygen masks in the cabin failed to deploy - some passengers were knocked unconscious! Crew declared a MAYDAY but all passengers were fit enough to walk off the plane after returning to DUB.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7574 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 11):
and may ground some 744´s due to the soaring fuel prices.

Think this winter we will see many major carriers that will ground aircrafts. Any words if EI will do the same??



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineJWMD123 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7552 times:

Seeing as though we are looking at some of our regional airports on this thread I have a quick question.

Does anyone know ho the RE GWY-ORK service does.

The reason I ask is two-fold. Firstly, the service only operates on Friday and Sundays and also fares appear high.

If RE are getting good fares surely would they not look to increase frequency. I would have thought such a route on an ATR42 would justify a once daily service maybe???

Quoting EI787 (Reply 13):
Apparently the oxygen masks in the cabin failed to deploy - some passengers were knocked unconscious! Crew declared a MAYDAY but all passengers were fit enough to walk off the plane after returning to DUB.

Let's wait for them all to start ringing the Joe Duffy show!!!!  flamed   stirthepot   duck 


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7525 times:



Quoting JWMD123 (Reply 15):
Does anyone know ho the RE GWY-ORK service does.

The reason I ask is two-fold. Firstly, the service only operates on Friday and Sundays and also fares appear high.

If RE are getting good fares surely would they not look to increase frequency. I would have thought such a route on an ATR42 would justify a once daily service maybe???

Wasn't it originally more frequent?



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User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7513 times:

While no big surprise, AA has announced it will stop it's JFK-STN service and focus on serving London via it's current large LHR operation.
This got me wondering what AA's ORD-DUB loads are like? Is this another route that we could see pulled if oil continues at these levels, it would make sense to go back to codesharing with EI if 2 airlines on the route are struggling.
ANZ has said it will start serving the Auckland-LAX-LHR route later this year with it's B777 fleet in an effort to save money on fuel bills. Looks like the B744 fleet at ANZ is on the way out. Based on the QF groundings, is there any chance EI may look to return EI-DUB & EI-CRK in 2009 while accepting their 3 new A333E aircraft? This would mean just 1 extra aircraft in the l/h fleet, and a newer more fuel efficient fleet as well!

Pilot21



Aircraft I've flown: A300/A310/A320/A321/A330/A340/B727/B732/B733/B734/B735/B738/B741/B742/B744/DC10/MD80/IL62/Bae146/AR
User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4175 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7511 times:



Quoting EI787 (Reply 13):
Apparently the oxygen masks in the cabin failed to deploy - some passengers were knocked unconscious! Crew declared a MAYDAY but all passengers were fit enough to walk off the plane after returning to DUB.

Aircraft returned to Pier D, with a section of the pier (the section at the very end) being cordoned off for the pax from this flight. Plenty of DAA staff in attendance to look after them. Aircraft still at DUB as of today.



Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlineEIDAA From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 830 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7472 times:
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Quoting EI787 (Reply 13):
Apparently the oxygen masks in the cabin failed to deploy

Well that ain't good! Not a pleasant experience for the passengers, but glad everyone was alright in the end.

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 17):
This got me wondering what AA's ORD-DUB loads are like? Is this another route that we could see pulled if oil continues at these levels, it would make sense to go back to codesharing with EI if 2 airlines on the route are struggling.

With the UA codeshare deal starting up, I would imagine it would be difficult for AA to piggy-back on the EI service to ORD if they were ever to withdraw the route from their own network.

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 17):
ANZ has said it will start serving the Auckland-LAX-LHR route later this year with it's B777 fleet in an effort to save money on fuel bills. Looks like the B744 fleet at ANZ is on the way out.

Wasn't the LHR-LAX-AKL service switched to the B777 for a while when they launched the LHR-HKG-AKL route? Are they currently running a B744 on each?



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User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4175 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7467 times:



Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 17):
This got me wondering what AA's ORD-DUB loads are like? Is this another route that we could see pulled if oil continues at these levels, it would make sense to go back to codesharing with EI if 2 airlines on the route are struggling.

I wouldnt worry about ORD-DUB... EI's loads initially dropped when AA stated, but they quickly recovered. There's enough traffic for both. AA's move to STN was more about driving Eos and Maxjet out of Business. That job now accomplished, they are on their way out of STN as well. AA have also said INTL ASM's are to increase, US domestic to reduce.



Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7443 times:



Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 17):
This got me wondering what AA's ORD-DUB loads are like? Is this another route that we could see pulled if oil continues at these levels, it would make sense to go back to codesharing with EI if 2 airlines on the route are struggling.

There should be enough demand for 2 daily flights to ORD. Last year we had 4 direct, 2 ex DUB and 2 ex SNN, which was obviously way too much capacity but It should be fine for now. It would be a real shame if AA pulled out of Ireland altogether.

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 17):
Based on the QF groundings, is there any chance EI may look to return EI-DUB & EI-CRK in 2009 while accepting their 3 new A333E aircraft? This would mean just 1 extra aircraft in the l/h fleet, and a newer more fuel efficient fleet as well!

A lot of the QF groundings are 743's, definately not efficient enough with the price of oil these days. I can't see EI changing their long haul plan now, surely there's plenty of opportunities eastwards for them to consider.

Well EI are planning well in advance, DUB-CWL flights have been loaded in Friday 20 - Sunday 22 March 2009 for a Six Nations match- Ireland V Wales. (A330 and A321's)


User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7423 times:

New Aer Lingus Route ::: Dublin - Sofia (SOF)

Aer Lingus operates from Oct 26 2008 - Mar 28 2009 on days Tue Sat

Interesting move by EI, second flight to Bulgaria within a year. Good to see them concentrating more on the medium haul market.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7412 times:



Quoting EI320 (Reply 22):
Aer Lingus operates from Oct 26 2008 - Mar 28 2009 on days Tue Sat

So it will be only a seasonal service??



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineLHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7386 times:



Quoting EIDAA (Reply 19):
Wasn't the LHR-LAX-AKL service switched to the B777 for a while when they launched the LHR-HKG-AKL route? Are they currently running a B744 on each?

Yes - NZ brought the 777 through LAX in the first season after delivery IIRC

it then switched back to 744 - and at LHR I believe the 744s are on the ground at the same time (at least I saw 2 the last time I was there, possibly irregular ops)

pity - because I prefer NZ's 744 to any other metal LAX-LHR and vv  Angry

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
Aerfort na Sionna.

Well, that's enough about Shannon for now.


 laughing 



Next up: LAX-LHR NZ002 Y SkyCouch! LHR-LAX NZ001 Y
25 ClassicLover : I reckon it will do extremely well. It's going to save people a hell of a lot of time on arrival in London. I can't wait to try it out myself! QF hav
26 Kaitak : It's quite possible that they're stopping flights between DUB and SNN, but that doesn't mean they're stopping services to SNN altogether; SNN-US flig
27 CallBell : Generally no. Though depending on stock remaining, the Senior Cabin Crew member might decide to do a 2nd run. As always though all drinks and food are
28 EI320 : I wouldn't rule it out yet, they could still load in fares over the summer for those flights. After all, what's the rush, they're not really dependin
29 EICVD : Saw 2 NZ 744s myself at LHR back in Feb so could be back to a 777?
30 ClassicLover : Maybe they're just not releasing them yet in order to get more pax flying to the US. Well, the plan is for me to replace a staff member on maternity
31 Shamrock350 : I thought we would see SOF sooner or later but after BOJ was announced I thought it would be less likely but it's great to see it added to the EI net
32 EIDAA : Always nice to see a new route. Will FR come on to the Bulgaria scene soon enough so? If I am not mistaken, the flight numbers are actually ex SNN-LH
33 BrianDromey : I have seen the service go out on a few sundays, to me it seemed the passengers were mainly my age and seemed to be students. I suspect that given th
34 EI320 : Just noticed that there are Timetables uploaded for SNN-DUB into 2009 so it seems that it won't be cut after all. Hopefully fares will be uploaded so
35 Shamrock350 : Quite surprised to see NCL again, must of done reasonably well during the summer for them to bring it back.
36 Post contains links Humberside : Just found the original press release from GWY. Was 5xWeek and indeed launched at the same time as LBA http://www.galwayairport.com/newsdetail.asp?id
37 AmricanShamrok : I have relatives who frequently fly DUB-ORD on AA. They say the loads on AA92/AA93 are high so no fear of AA pulling out yet anyway...
38 Kaitak : Yesterday's 109 had to divert to PHL due to ATC restrictions at JFK.
39 Pilot21 : It landed in Philly @ 20.10, didn't leave again until 22.40 and finally reached JFK @ 23.28. The 108 back to Dublin then left JFK @ 1.05am, ETA in Du
40 B747forever : The last few times I have been at LAX I have both seen the ANZ 777 and 744. Think that they change a/c heavily on this route.
41 Post contains links OA260 : Great to see more EI presence in the Balkans. ---------------------------- Ryanair will take €90m hit on stake in Aer Lingus RYANAIR will take a wr
42 Super737 : Morning folks, with the news the past few days, the city airport is for sale at an easy £100 million pounds (spare change). With over 2,700,000 passe
43 Dstc47 : I do not know whether it is the title of this thread is putting people off, or if the recession is beginning to bite, but this thread is proving slow
44 COEI2007 : I think a small number of workers have the right to jobs, but the rest sold out their ''letter'' which guarenteed them a job. I think its sad, as the
45 EIDAA : Lufthansa Technik got a 10 year components contract. Sogerma Services got the 10 year contract for the base maintenance on the A330s, while Sabena Te
46 Dstc47 : Ryanair new routes announced, but none from Ireland. New Routes to start week of 27th October 08: Bremen to: Fuerteventura, Gothenburg, Marrakesh, Ten
47 BrianDromey : Mate, when you see "Shannon" you know to run in the opposite direction! To be fair, I think TEAM Aer Lingus/FLS Aerospace/SR Technics has always been
48 Smokeyrosco : Correct, SRT isn't very competitively priced, but they have high costs, labour being one of them.... do they own the hangers or are they owned by the
49 EIDAA : I believe they are on a long term lease.
50 Bramble : Where and when is this? I may find time in my schedule to have a look!!!!!!!!! EI would only announce it for one season. If it does well it may be re
51 COEI2007 : Thats always happening. The 132 will get into SNN early, and end up leaving SNN late waiting for pax, then arriving late into DUB!
52 Kaitak : It happens from time to time; just not a lot happening at the moment.
53 B747forever : Okay, hope that EI will success with this route.
54 Smokeyrosco : It's on the 6th which is tomorrow next week, Not sure where it is, I'll ask my friend tomorrow.
55 OA260 : Brian your a brave man lol....
56 PenPusher : 'The "troubled" TEAM Aer Lingus/FLS/SR Technics, have been on the critical list for years. If Aer Lingus took work off SRT to do it in-house then the
57 Post contains links Smokeyrosco : Never mind it's on the website NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Annual General Meeting (“AGM”) of Aer Lingus Group plc (the “Company”) will be
58 Post contains links and images EI787 : The AC YYZ-DUB-YYZ flight was operated by an A330-300 today, C-GFUR. Could be high loads, or a way of cutting down fuel costs (seeing as the A330 has
59 Irish251 : Did you see this yourself? The main flight-tracking websites show this morning's YYZ-DUB AC894 flight as a B762 and C-GFUR is listed from ACARS repor
60 Rineanna : Great, hope it's a permanent fixture. I'm a big fan of the 330; classy bird! The AC livery looks very elegant on the 330 too; a lot of the new liveri
61 Post contains links EI787 : No, I got it off the Dublin Airport Forum: http://dublinairportforum.yuku.com/t.../Air-Canada-A330-in-Dub-today.html Maybe his information is incorre
62 Shamrock321 : I saw the AC flight parked of the A pier this morning and it was not an A330!
63 Shamrock350 : That's a shame, still in a few years it will be a Dreamliner!
64 Bramble : Am too busy looking at A.net to check EI.com!!!!!!!!!!1
65 Post contains links OA260 : Judges file charges in Airbus insider-trading probe 30/05/2008 - 08:26:52 French judges filed preliminary insider trading charges today against Noel F
66 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Here is a photo from TLS, you can see the new Aer Lingus A320 in the background along with other Airbus aircraft waiting for delivery. http://www.flic
67 Toulouse : When is she due for delivery? I arrived back after two weeks in Spain on Wednesday evening after yet another enjoyable and on-time flight with EZY fr
68 Mayor : Just as an aside, DL has been trumpeting their 20 years of flying to Ireland (ATL-DUB) while conveniently forgetting that service to Ireland was start
69 EI320 : SRT plan fails to get full backing Friday, 30 May 2008 17:39 Up to 1,200 jobs at aircraft maintenance firm SR Technics are in jeopardy this evening af
70 B747forever : Nice shoot. I can otherwise see a LH, TK, AY and BA a/c.
71 LUPOR1D : You're dead right- May 9th 1986 to be exact
72 OA260 : Great A/C to fly on. Did they have traffic rights from SNN to MUC?? -------------- On the SR Technics thing what happened?? I mean at 6pm 98FM were s
73 LUPOR1D : They did indeed, I have a photograph of the official launch of the SNN-MUC sector itself
74 OA260 : That would have been a cool route to fly . I loved the old unusual routes. I flew DL from LGW-FRA and then from FRA-ATH. It was an L10-11 and an A310
75 EIDAA : Welcome back Toulouse... I was wondering where you had gotten to! I believe delivery expected on June 3rd, should get in to Dublin in the early evenin
76 BrianDromey : Just out of interest: has anyone experienced a better BOB service than the EI one? Definitely WW, BD are not as good and I don't know why NW bother...
77 EICVD : I think that a/c has been there for a while. Thought it might be destined for Silverjet in the future but not anymore.
78 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Honestly, I don't think I ever have. When it was first introduced it was pretty weak, a few overcharged snacks and drinks was basically it but now it
79 EI787 : Aer Lingus Online Check in is now available for flights departing BRU, GVA, ZRH, MAD, ALC, ACE, MUC and VIE. Should alleviate check-in queues in these
80 BrianDromey : If I know BD, its probably 1963! Actually there are references to "october" on it. Who knows which october though! i would guess 2007. The BD diamond
81 ClassicLover : I guess as a lot of people have to get to the airport really early to ensure they will get through security, they're eating there if they get there e
82 Post contains links and images Kaitak : View Large View Medium Photo © Gareth harvey Sadly, this aircraft, operated by TACA, crashed upon landing at Tegucigalpa Airport, Honduras, today. Th
83 OA260 : I hate to say it but FR have a great BOB service/menu. I was surprised by the selection they had both hot and cold. Prices not too bad either. Todays
84 Shamrock104 : Yea, Ryanair's BOB is good. Went to Cork with them on wednesday. Usually take Aer Arann but needed to get there early. The flight was about 80% full.
85 Shamrock321 : Ive expierenced both Germanwings and Sky Europe BOB on flight from DUB, I find the quality of food on EI to be much better but I suppose its more aime
86 Kaitak : Little things mean a lot; even as little as ice. Even BA has stopped serving ice; Aer Lingus, thankfully, still does. And of course, nothing beats the
87 B747forever : CNN now reports 7 fatalities. What a sad tragedy
88 Post contains links OA260 : Union head confident over SR Technics The President of SIPTU, Jack O'Connor, has said he is confident that a deal can be done to safeguard jobs at the
89 Costastic : Haven't yet tried EI's full breakfast. What's it like?
90 Neutral : Quote Haven't yet tried EI's full breakfast. What's it like? Its worth a try,its about 8/9 Euro including tea or coffee
91 Sawtooth : Sorry must have missed that, hadn't heard about any immediate problems, what was he referring to?
92 OA260 : Its very nice and good value. Probably the 2nd best I have had. The first is BA in Club Europe on a DUB-LGW ... was the best.
93 Shamrock321 : The breakfast is tasty and nice when you have had an early start but as for it being value for money! I dont think so, imagine being handed that in a
94 Pilot21 : How can 20 people put 1,200 other people's jobs in jeopardy? If you have a vote and 99% of the group favour the new work practices, why can't majorit
95 OA260 : Yes I saw that yesterday also.
96 ClassicLover : Unbelievably good. I actually fly EI partly because of this. You won't regret purchasing it - plenty of food, and delicious! Now that is something I
97 OA260 : When I did it they had a special upgrade for EUR75 . Maybe they still have it and you can take a trip. Got full BA Exec miles also.
98 Toulouse : If I get a chace, I'll drop out to TLS to see if I can get a photo of her departing. Thanks EIDAA! Nice to be missed! To be honest, no. I've heard aw
99 ClassicLover : They still have it on most routes - I think it's to enhance revenue. It works - it's well worth it for the price!
100 OA260 : Shame it doesn't work on LHR as it would be worth it to get into the new Galleries. Last time it was only for LGW flights.
101 EICVD : At least L'Avion are still around for the time being but who know for how how long. Was still there this morning. I could be wrong but I think it dep
102 Shamrock350 : It could have been a very different story if you were on Ryanair! It's nice of the F/A to offer the glass and ice, for some reason I find Coke (not p
103 ClassicLover : Oh well if we happen to have a flight schedule alignment at LHR someday, let me know. I'm oneworld Saph and I can bring you in on my card
104 OA260 : Got ice with my Coke on Ryanair on Tuesday last but none on the return yesterday as they had run out.
105 Gosimeon : I liked Pier D arrivals. I know it is, ahem, "minimalist" but that's what you want for a loco terminal. It's clean and simple, and easily kept. Ditto
106 OA260 : Thanks and likewise if you ever bring yourself to go Star LOL....
107 Shamrock350 : Was it your own Coke because I was told off for having my own bottle on FR back in 2005 and I know a few other people who have been told similar. Tou
108 Gosimeon : My housemates in college next year hail from Lille and I am going to visit nthem over the summer. Any hints on here are to the best way to fly there?
109 Rojam : After a long absence I'm back....with just some observations noted over the last 2 weeks in Greece : 1: I wanted to buy JMK-ATH-JSI and JSI-ATH on the
110 EICVD : I was going to suggest taking FR to STN/LTN & then U2 to Lille (im almost certain they did fly there in the past) but I just checked there website &
111 Rojam : If you can book early and be time-flexible I'd suggest flying to STN on an FR taxes-only fare or EI/BD to LHR (Picc'd line for the price-sensitive) a
112 ClassicLover : Oh my gosh, the mere thought makes me want to cry... Kidding, kidding... Neither do EI - your comment reminded me of GLA-DUB last week. Apart from th
113 Shamrock350 : Nasty! I remember finding three and half safety cards in my seat pocket once. Usually EI keep the cabins quite clean but it would be nice if they wip
114 Post contains links OA260 : Yep they can move fast when they want to!! Did you get effected by the strikes?? The prop pilots have been on intermittent strikes over the last few
115 BrianDromey : I think probably because ORK is quite a small, but relatively senior base the bar is raised for the new hires. That said a lot of the younger guys an
116 Costastic : According to a FR training captain, he's done a 17-minute turnaround. On a 189-seat machine.
117 Post contains links OA260 : Just seen this on the database. A KGB officer escorted the crew to SNN!!! http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1358938
118 Irish251 : " target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...58938 Not quite sure what that means. Aeroflot had a sizeable transit operation at SNN at the
119 Kaitak : They used always have members of the KGB in Shannon, accompany crew and ensuring that no pax managed to jump ship, which sometimes they did (and to ou
120 OA260 : Yes shame it all ended. It was what made SNN different. Great variety of A/C and routes. It was a sureal experience flying out of SNN on SU. Why did
121 AmricanShamrok : I thought there were EU regulations saying that commercial aircraft has to be grounded for at least 25 minutes? Yeah it's sad alright...flew SU mysel
122 EICVD : They have a Costa Rican subsidary.
123 Rojam : Oh - no, thankfully I didn't. Had I even known there were strikes I would have taken marine transport (despite the durations involved) and would not
124 OA260 : Well they should ban smoking except for outside or like ZRH which is great have enclosed smoking rooms with good ventilation. 90% of my family smoke
125 BrianDromey : I don't think smoking indoors is banned in Greece though? I think we have to accecpt that things abroad are not always done as we do them. This is on
126 EICVD : Found this on another website, sorry if its been already discussed before. UNITED and Aer Lingus today filed application to the Department of Transpor
127 ClassicLover : Is all of this code sharing a sign that EI are going to reposition themselves away from being a low fares airline? Or am I just wishing hard?
128 Shamrock350 : I think Aer Lingus has been taking steps in positioning itself away from just a low fares airline. I doubt it will return to being a full service air
129 OA260 : Although not an architectural dream its clean , bright, airy and easy to navigate. Very German and functional. Thats why I like it. Its also 24 hours
130 EI320 : Dublin - Newark ??? Could this be a planned route?
131 BrianDromey : LHR-DUB is notable by its absence, obviously BD fill in that role, strange to include BFS, BHD should have done? EI->UA connections all at T1 LHR is
132 Shamrock321 : The Neos 767 was operating for Air Italy Polska this weekend.
133 Shamrock350 : They really should to be honest, I haven't seen anything for their B6 partnership apart from on the website.
134 OA260 : They already do . You can book EI in X class for DUB-LHR . If a codeshare was established you would be able to book either. If you were booking on th
135 Rojam : Is that a kiss-of-death to aspirational Belfast or Cork direct transatlantic EI flights then ?
136 Post contains links Gosimeon : I guess that's why FR have done away with seat pockets altogether then! VERY surprised to read that. It would be nice to see this being launched. Per
137 Shamrock321 : I doubt EI ever had plans to operate ORK/BFS-USA, thats dreaming!
138 B747forever : One can think so. I doubt that Cork ever would get T/A flights, but maybe BFS.
139 Toulouse : Spain is a bad example regarding smoking. The law is very lax. Only bars/cafés/restaurantes over a certain size are obliged to either totally ban sm
140 EICVD : All the 146s have now left the WX fleet.
141 Toulouse : Thanks EICVD... that's good news!
142 EICVD : Your welcome Toulouse. One of the 146s (EI-CNQ) is now with RE & another is now with Orion Air of Spain as EC-KKY. Most of the others are in storage.
143 Post contains links and images OA260 : Im sorry but when you are in company uniform you are representing your company and should act accordingly. Some things are tolerated and others not.
144 ClassicLover : I'm sure they do act accordingly - however, smoking in company uniform is hardly acting inappropriately.
145 OA260 : I guess it all depends on your personal opinion on smoking. Just like people have different opinions on drinking. ----------------------------------
146 ClassicLover : That's a fair call... Lack of a high premium market for the carriers concerned? Just a guess...
147 EIDAA : I flew out on Saturday morning and the security queue was very bad, (by recent DUB standards at least). I got to the airport at 6am for an 8am flight
148 BestWestern : I flew out of Dublin on Friday, and everything was working just fine - 5 minute security queue, and Pier A was spotless - Cleaners everywhere.
149 OA260 : When I landed around 3pm Friday it was quite busy but no ques to get through immigration coming from Pier D. I guess Saturday was going to be the wor
150 Mayor : And it's a heck of an improvement over the old airport. I do know that the taxi drivers don't like the new airport because of the extra distance from
151 OA260 : Well for me Hellinikon was ideal as far as location as it was only 25 mins in a taxi to my family home but now its an hour. Still small price to pay
152 BestWestern : Where dont taxi drivers complain OA?
153 OA260 : True but at least in Dublin they dont drive off lol...Well never in my experience anyway and they are normally quite upbeat and chatty.
154 Shamrock350 : Bmi have a new ad campaign here in the UK, much better than the previous adverts and aimed at business passengers. I think it's a strong possibility f
155 OA260 : Yes much better than that other one they had. The dreadful voice over and irrelevant filming on the last one was really bad. This one is no award win
156 Bramble : I heard 6th June arrival into DUB from EI operations. SAw the Air berlin menu recently. Is quite good. A lot of choice in the shopping. Do they serve
157 BestWestern : Agreee 100% - Far better than the free crap mascarading as food you get on Lufthansa / Air France - The EI menu is perfect - there if you want someth
158 Costastic : I'm all for going out of your way to help customers (and even those that aren't customers) as my boss will testify. There are numerous things that FR
159 OA260 : LH food even in European J class is not that great. They love cold food. I see Ireland/Greece and Lithuania will be jointly in charge of the EU presi
160 Shamrock321 : I would be stunned if EI base a long haul aircraft outside DUB. Looking at the amount of transfer passengers that EI have flying via DUB they can easi
161 Kaitak : Could this have been because a direct CO flight was cancelled and they transferred pax to EI? Anyone know how EI t/a loads are doing at the moment? I
162 OA260 : Was there a championship or something on in GLA?? That volume has to be a group travelling together.
163 AmricanShamrok : And will the EI/AA alliance continue after this? I agree. Since Mannion came he removed that hidious aerlingusOcom logo and brought back the traditio
164 OA260 : I cant remember if I posted this before but EI are looking to get a late night slot out of LHR into BFS maybe 2210.[Edited 2008-06-01 12:39:41]
165 Kaitak : No, that's it for EI and AA. Maybe we will see AA expand its Irish services. I think one of the factors that motivated EI to deal with UA was that Un
166 AmricanShamrok : Why does the AA/EI partnership have to end just cause a new deal with UA is starting? Its it a competition issue or something? I would have loved to
167 BrianDromey : This is actually quite good, I think. I like the tag line "get some MI time with bmi" nice. That would explain why I found a half drunken cup of hot
168 OA260 : LOL.. Brian you will be every girls ideal husband one day . BD used to offer such a flight AFAIK. When they switched to BHD they could not do it due
169 BrianDromey : :o BE, tech? Surely not! Mate, you should see my room, its a tip most of the time. Messing up other peoples spaces is one thing, my own space is anot
170 Post contains links Kaitak : A few news snippets: Dempsey still awaits Cork Airport debt plan: http://www.independent.ie/business/i...sed-airport-debt-plan-1394304.html DAA Financ
171 ShannoninAMA : I'm flattered About time someone had a good idea around here
172 Post contains links OA260 : Union hopeful SR Technics dispute will be resolved 02/06/2008 - 08:40:14 SIPTU is holding meetings today in a bid to break the industrial relations de
173 Pilot21 : EI109 was 4.5hrs late leaving Dublin last night, not sure if it was a tech issue on that flight or a knock on effect from earlier flight delays, but i
174 OA260 : Great to see the inaugural YVR service on time Vancouver Flyglobespan GSM942 02-06-2008 10:00 Delayed 1850
175 Shamrock321 : EI146 diverted to JFK on Saturday night/Sunday morning so it caused a long delay for a number of flights including yesterday AGP flight which was a fe
176 AerLingus747 : Make that EUR9. A couple of other things have gone up as well. Does anybody know whose DC-10 or MD-11 was in DUB yesterday around 5:15pm, it was park
177 B747forever : Wow, that is a impressing amount of PAX. What a shame!!!
178 Gosimeon : LOL. Things just don't get better for them or their customers. Why didn't DUB tell them where to go when they looked for slots?
179 Shamrock321 : I believe it was the Omni Air DC-10 again operating or EI, I thought I headr someone say there is an A330 stuck in AGP at the moment but not sure how
180 Irish251 : This was a trooping flight DUB-NDJ for the Irish Army. It is not idle for 3-4 days. On Saturday afternoons it operates DUB-CDG, returning early on Su
181 BrianDromey : Why do people trust this shower with their money? For the sake of the few bob I'd rather connnect somewhere and at lest know that I'll get here st som
182 EI320 : It's a disgrace to be honest. I'd have thought they would have learnt something from last year but clearly they haven't. An AF and BA flight to LCY h
183 Irish251 : It's a Bank Holiday in Ireland!
184 Pilot21 : ACARS has lots of data today on EI's l/h fleet (messages don't always seem to come through) EI-DUZ - operating EI125 today SNN-DUB-ORD, this seems to
185 Post contains links OA260 : SR Technics staff agree to new proposals Staff at the SR Technics aircraft maintenance plant at Dublin Airport have voted overwhelmingly in favour of
186 EI320 : Of course I've noticed that -DAA has been mainly on the EI111 for the past few months.
187 EISHN : My dad is onboard her today, heading to Florida for business, he'll be using the jetBlue connection
188 Gosimeon : I see DL are using 757s a bit recently from DUB. Are loads poor generally to the US right now with all airlines?
189 B747forever : Shouldnt the loads go up now, as we are in the beginning of the summer season?? Or is it another 2weeks til the period starts??
190 Gosimeon : Summer is just about here alright, but loads could be poor this year due to the economic downturn on both sides of the Atlantic. Also, alot of Irish
191 Post contains links Kaitak : The maintenance dispute at SR Technics has been resolved, allowing the company to continue providing maintenance to Aer Lingus. http://www.breakingnew
192 COEI2007 : Americans arent really fliyng as much as before with their economic woes etc, and DUB has a lot of capacity to the US. DL to JFK going to a 757 more
193 EICVD : Saw a DL 764 at DUB on Saturday. Does that fly to JFK or ATL?
194 EI320 : Can anyone explain why seats 2A, 2B , 9A, 9F, 23A, 23F etc are always marked as unavailable on the EI A320 seat maps. I think the 757's for T/A routes
195 Mayor : 90F+ isn't warm enough for you??
196 Bramble : I always think its a bad sign when I recognise pax. I try to acknowledge such frequent pax with little things like that. I often keep second hand pap
197 Post contains images Irish251 : One 767 departed to YVR at about 1815L and another arrived from there an hour or so later. The aircraft were G-CDPT and G-CEOD respectively. Here is
198 AmricanShamrok : Wouldn't you think they'd put the AVOD aircraft on the longer flights such as LAX & SFO?
199 OA260 : There was one due out at 1500 to YVR but the weird thing is that they are still selling seats on their website for todays 1500 departure LOL..... Ano
200 EI787 : That list only lists airlines with flights on the departures/arrivals board for the current period. It's not on the list now as there are no FlyGlobe
201 OA260 : Oh ok but they should at least keep it until 6 hours after it departs. If you wanted to go on now and see what time a flight departed at 6pm you cant
202 Post contains links and images EIDAA : Good news I guess, but it really shouldn't have come to that in the first place. Ridiculous. Very nice photo Irish251... I don't suppose you were sti
203 EICVD : Nice photos EIDAA. I prefer landing on runway 10 as you get great views of the city. Even get to see my house (just about) when I have an F seat.
204 OA260 : Nice pics.... The construction is going at a fast pace. The curved bit I didnt see on Friday , maybe they added it since!!. The overview of Dun Laogh
205 LUPOR1D : +1 for old Ryanar interior! Like it much more....
206 BrianDromey : 7.50 for the sandwich and a cuppa. Oh dear! To be fair though the prices at the supermarket have gone through the roof. Id say I spend about 50% more
207 OA260 : I like the new one better and the yellow doesnt bother me as much as I thought it would. I love the blue leather seats and it always looks clean. The
208 Bramble : A/C get placed on routes on a rotational basis to try to keep alll acycles and hours somewhat similar. Also some routes are opearted just begore main
209 JWMD123 : Just a couple of snippets on FR. May traffic increased 22% and Load Factor held steady at 80%. FR are moving to BHX's Terminal 2 tomorrow.
210 EIDAA : Indeed it is a nice area... plenty of nice cafes, restaurants etc. Good place to just chill out! I can't say that I study the overhead bins for the d
211 Post contains links OA260 : Ryanair seat sales hold strong By Laura Noonan Tuesday June 03 2008 THE percentage of seats sold by Ryanair held steady in May despite a 22pc surge in
212 B747forever : No surprise that they have so high LF. They almost gives away seats sometimes.
213 EI320 : I agree, I much prefer the older cabins. I find that there is more leg room and the general apperarance of the cabin is less dazzling. It's annoying
214 OA260 : I wonder if the new A330 coming in November will be used to replace one of the older ones and maybe lease or sell the older one?? Rather than open a
215 Shamrock321 : For anyone thats interested yesterdays LH4980 DUB-FRA being operated by D-AIRO shortly after boarding someone opened an emergency exit causing the esc
216 Pilot21 : I will reiterate what I said in the previous thread, I would not be surprised if EI try and negotiate an early return of EI-DUB/CRK to their lessors
217 OA260 : I saw that on the departures board with the 3 hour delay and wondered what it was. Never heard that one before. Someone is in trouble. Not to mention
218 Post contains links EI787 : Inishbofin is to get an air service to connect it with the mainland. An airstrip is to be built at Clifden, Co. Galway. http://www.breakingnews.ie/ire
219 Costastic : Decent article on EI in this month's edition of ATW.
220 OA260 : What does it say??
221 B747forever : Isnt D-AIRO the LH retro jet??
222 Gosimeon : No. A321. Crazy incident with it. Perhaps somebody thought it was the toilet? LOL
223 Mayor : Sorry....I forgot to add 80%+ humidity on top of that.
224 Gosimeon : Still no. You've never been to Tramore on a hot July day I take it.
225 Mayor : No, but Arkansas gets up to 100F in mid-July with high humidity. Also, lived in Utah where it gets pretty warm, albeit with low humidity. BTW, don't w
226 COEI2007 : I head that theres a big announcement coming from EI next week with regards long-haul? New routes? A/C being grounded?
227 EI787 : According to Jethros, EI-DVI, EI's latest A320, is due for delivery today, June 3rd. Anyone know if she has arrived into DUB yet?
228 JWMD123 : If I was to guess I reckon routes L/H routes to the east could be coming on stream a lot quicker than expected. The US, while always bread and butter
229 Dstc47 : Tramore is a seaside resort near Waterford City. Indeed it is one of the few places in the universe from which it is not fairly difficult, or very di
230 Mayor : Surely, Tramore can't be warmer or more uncomfortable than Arkansas in mid-July, can it?[Edited 2008-06-03 08:48:04]
231 Myt332 : Are you guys aware of the Belavia TU154 coming in to Dublin from Minsk a few times in June, July and August? They are sending a B735 MSQ-DUB-MSQ tomor
232 Bramble : I thinhk you have a good economic idea here. Makes sense to get the new a/c and try offload the older ones. This is probably a result of the emergenc
233 EIEGAA : No, he's only pulling your leg
234 Mayor : Wouldn't be the first time.
235 Toulouse : When I drove by the Airbus delivery centre here in TLS around 3pm today she was still parked there (will look later). I think the CDG increase is cer
236 LUPOR1D : Every summer they bring children affected by the Chernobyl disaster into ireland, on the scheduled service into Shannon (along with extra charter fli
237 Post contains links Pyh : I'm sorry if this has been mentioned here, but Aer Lingus will terminate DUB-HEL next winter. However, they will start the route again next summer sea
238 Kaitak : I wonder if there is scope for EI to share aircraft for the winter with a southern hemisphere airline - Jetstar for example - whose low season would c
239 OA260 : Looking at the FR site they have slashed alot of Summer fares by 20% !!!
240 B747forever : How can they do that with todays high price of oil?? It is really crazy.
241 OA260 : Dont know but I have been keeping an eye on the fares every few days for June/July/August and they have gone down in recent weeks. Up until yesterday
242 LIFFY1A : I heard MOL saying today that FR have 2.2bn in cash, more than any other European airline has, i'm sure they can absorb some of the costs and hope th
243 B747forever : ´ Wow, that is amazing, didnt know it.
244 OA260 : I actually think FR will be the winner on the Sun destinations this year. I was sitting next to a couple on my DUB-REU flight and we were chatting abo
245 BrianDromey : I don't know of JQ would be interested in leasing the EI birds as they operate IAE birds. I think JQ put 177 on their a320 tho. Oil is the problem at
246 Greenjet : Increasing check-in bag charges and the priority boarding charges help offset this. Fuel surchages in disguise.
247 Shamrock350 : Shame to see it cut for winter but at least it's returning, EI has started sending the A321 to HEL frequently so loads must be good.
248 ClassicLover : It's the same thing AY used to do. The big thing they should be doing is putting on flights in December and January for Christmas. Loads of Finns go
249 OA260 : There are lots of flights to Finland in the December period.... just they go a bit further North to see Santa lol....
250 COEI2007 : Perhaps they will just reduce frequency on some routes. I wouldnt be surprised to see IAD cut. Hopefully the announcement isnt that they are getting
251 EICVD : According to Jethro's DVI was delivered today.
252 ClassicLover : I'm so glad I am not from HEL
253 Post contains links Kaitak : Here's No. 25. Roll up, single file, passports and boarding passes ... no spitting in the jetway, please: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...enera
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