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Any A320 Flights Across The Atlantic?  
User currently offlineRwex414 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 82 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8668 times:

Are there any airlines that use A320s to cross the Atlantic? I know that British Airways uses A318s and Air Canada uses A319s but does anyone use A320s.
Also what is the longest flight the A320 is used for?

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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8618 times:



Quoting Rwex414 (Thread starter):
Are there any airlines that use A320s to cross the Atlantic?

As far as i'm aware the answer is no.

Quoting Rwex414 (Thread starter):
Air Canada uses A319s

Not anymore  Sad

Quoting Rwex414 (Thread starter):
I know that British Airways uses A318s

Soon  Wink



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User currently offlineRwex414 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8579 times:

Would the A320 even be capable to cross the Atlantic?

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8562 times:



Quoting Rwex414 (Reply 2):
Would the A320 even be capable to cross the Atlantic?

I seem to recall at least one European charter carrier operating occasional transatlantic flights with the A320 but obviously with one or more fuel stops.


User currently offlineBP1 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 593 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8465 times:

The business configured A-320's fly the North Atlantic frequently. As being business configured, these aircraft have extra fuel tanks in place of cargo underneath. Also BBJ's (737 models) fly the North Atlantic and North Pacific frequently too with the extra fuel tanks. Crossing the North Pacific with only 10 passengers and a bed is sure one nice way to travel.

Take a look at the web site for PrivatAir www.privatair.com

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8440 times:



Quoting BP1 (Reply 4):
The business configured A-320's fly the North Atlantic frequently. As being business configured, these aircraft have extra fuel tanks in place of cargo underneath.

You are referring to the A319CJ. I think the original poster is specifically referring to the A320, not all members of the generic A320 family.


User currently offlinePDXBJV From Turkey, joined Apr 2007, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8357 times:

I know LH flies an A319 from MUC to BOS in the winter correct?? I thought that this was interesting. How many pax can they have on this and still be able to make it, assuming its a non stop? I even tried booking it, and it looks like a normal flight!


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8282 times:



Quoting PDXBJV (Reply 6):
know LH flies an A319 from MUC to BOS in the winter correct?? I thought that this was interesting. How many pax can they have on this and still be able to make it, assuming its a non stop? I even tried booking it, and it looks like a normal flight!

That's operated by a PrivatAir A319CJ, the Airbus counterpart to the Boeing BBJ, and has extra fuel tanks in the cargo compartment. They've been operating those aircraft on behalf of LH on other Germany-U.S. routes for a few years. Since LH has recently replaced the all-business class A319CJs from DUS to EWR and DUS to ORD with their own A340-300s, they apparently plan to use one of the PrivatAir aircraft previously used on the DUS services for the new winter service MUC-BOS. They're using the other A319CJ previously used from DUS on a new MUC-Pune, India route starting next month. PrivatAir also previously operated a Boeing BBJ for LH MUC-ORD before upgrading that route to widebody service a year or two ago..

PrivatAir BBJs also operate for LX ZRH-EWR and for KL AMS-IAH. The A319CJs have 48 seats, the BBJ1 (737-700) operated for KL has 44 seats, and the BBJ2 (737-800) operated for LX has 56 seats, all in 2-2 business class configuration.


User currently offlineAgentXE1225 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8244 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
the BBJ1 (737-700) operated for KL has 44 seats

Aha! That explains how NW/KL got the pax up front from AMS-IAH on a 73 when NW57/AMS-MEM cancelled (or was extremely delayed, I can't remember) sometime last year. I was taking bag claims and was confused how the passengers got from Amsterdam to Houston in the first place, much less on a 737!


User currently offlineRwex414 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8237 times:

Then how will the new A318s for British Airways be set up. Will they have an extra fuel tank? How many seats will they have?

User currently offlineJamesontheroad From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8217 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 1):
Quoting Rwex414 (Thread starter):
Air Canada uses A319s

Not anymore

[photoid:1204190]

That was a particularly interesting aircraft to see at LHR, especially alongside AC's widebodies... an a.net'er contributed this great trip report of LHR-YYT during AC's brief flirtation with trans-Atlantic A319 service.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/100930

YYT - LHR takes about five / five and a half hours, and interestingly the YYT-LHR-YYT A319 rotation was the opposite of most trans-Atlantic flights: evening / night westbound and daytime eastbound.

[Edited 2008-05-27 18:22:04]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8206 times:



Quoting Rwex414 (Reply 9):
Then how will the new A318s for British Airways be set up. Will they have an extra fuel tank? How many seats will they have?

Only 32 all business class flat-bed seats. With so few passengers (and not much baggage) I don't think they need extra fuel tanks but I'm not certain.


User currently offlineJamesontheroad From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8193 times:



Quoting Rwex414 (Reply 9):
Then how will the new A318s for British Airways be set up. Will they have an extra fuel tank? How many seats will they have?

There will be 32 seats, all Club World, routing via SNN westbound for customs and refuelling. No fuelstop needed eastbound, direct to LCY. See:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3999802/


User currently offlineRwex414 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8193 times:

Then whats the point of having this flight. Making a flight across the atlantic for only 32 people seems pointless.

User currently offlineAgentXE1225 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8159 times:

Because there are people with $hitloads of money that don't want to fly with the general public. If there is demand for the service and it makes a profit, then why not?

User currently offlineRwex414 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8113 times:

How long do you really think this flight will make a profit? I dont think this flight will last more than 6 months.

User currently offlineAgentXE1225 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8089 times:

That I can't say. But I would think that it would be cheaper than owning and operating a private jet capable of trans-atlantic flight. What seems extravagant to us may be frugal to someone with that kind of money.

User currently offlineParisl From United States of America, joined May 2008, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8052 times:

This full-business class idea has worked for the french airline L'Avion, which is a full business class on a 757-200.

User currently offlineRwex414 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8052 times:

So back to the main question,
Whats the longest A320 flight in service now then if they dont go as far as across the atlantic?


User currently offlineParisl From United States of America, joined May 2008, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8046 times:

Northwest's Longest on the A320 is the DTW-SFO.

User currently offlineRwex414 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8022 times:

Virgin America uses a A320 for SFO-JFK and IAD-LAX

User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9194 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7967 times:



Quoting Rwex414 (Reply 20):
Virgin America uses a A320 for SFO-JFK and IAD-LAX

I believe that US uses A320s for PHL-LAX/SFO, along with A321 equipment.



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4942 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7939 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 21):

I believe that US uses A320s for PHL-LAX/SFO, along with A321 equipment.

Also used on PHL-SAN/PDX and the occasional sub to SEA.



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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2890 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7619 times:

Have Privatair stopped flying DUS-ORD? Because I see that route is operated by a Lufthansa A340 now.


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User currently offlineCaspritz78 From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7480 times:



Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 23):
Have Privatair stopped flying DUS-ORD? Because I see that route is operated by a Lufthansa A340 now.

Yes. The flight was replaced with the A340. LH has increased its TATL operations out of DUS in order not to loose customers to Air Berlin which bought LTU and its TATL routes out of DUS.


25 PlymSpotter : There are no transatlantic A320 flights, the nearest you can get is flying SATA to the Azores; a long flight out over the Atlantic, but not quite cros
26 Kappel : I think the longest (scheduled) A320 flights are the B6 and VX transcon's. The PrivatAir flights for KL have been going on for quite a while already.
27 YULWinterSkies : AFAIK the only regular A320 family aircraft ever used across was AC YYT-LHR, but that's a really short Transatl flight. All others are low seating con
28 Voodoo : Didn't Ford, or Daimler-Chrysler run a biz- 320 from Detroit to Cologne or Stuttgart?
29 Timz : Does Air Jamaica no longer fly the A320 from Jamaica to LAX? That's longer. Used to be an A321 London to Tehran, which is longer still.
30 Post contains links FlySSC : NOUVELAIR TUNISIE planned during the sumer season 2005 to fly TUN-KEF-YUL (flight BJ108) with its A320 but actually never operated on the route : http
31 BuyantUkhaa : Finnair flies the A320 HEL-LIS, not sure how that compares to the other ones mentioned above.
32 Ikramerica : To answer the OPs question, no there are no A320-200 flights TATL, at least regularly scheduled. The aircraft is short on legs to do so. It in theory
33 Viscount724 : BMI still operates the ex-BMED A321s London-Tehran. That's about 300 miles further than JFK-LAX. I believe those aircraft have an additional fuel tan
34 Rwex414 : Is the 757 the smallest commercial plane that is used to fly across the Atlantic without an extra fuel tank?
35 EXTspotter : Isn't there also an airline flying A321s from Pakistan - Manchester or something.
36 FlySSC : Spanair and MyTravel operate their A321 on even longer ditances : They fly them from Scandinavia and Finland to the Canary Islands : VAA-LPA = 2941mi
37 CXfirst : Tiger Airways uses their A320's from SIN-PER (2420 mi). This flight is longer than VX's LAX-IAD (2288 mi), but not quite as long as VX's SFO-EWR (2565
38 Rwex414 : So is the B757 the smallest commercial plane that is used to fly across the Atlantic without an extra fuel tank?
39 Shed360 : AEU used a 737-700 to st johns
40 Rwex414 : Alright thank you all for the information
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