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10yr Old Likes To Evade Airport "security"  
User currently offlineChicagoFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 274 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7281 times:

Remember Semaj Booker? The 9-yr old went past security and flew on a couple of WN flights before being apprehended.
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3206953

The now 10-yr old is at it again.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/374250.html

Quote:
(After the offense last year) Semaj was charged with second-degree car theft, attempting to elude a pursuing police vehicle and driving without a license.

In August, Superior Court Judge John McCarthy found Semaj guilty of those charges and agreed to the boy’s petition for deferred disposition, which would have kept him from having a criminal record.

But the deal was good only if the boy followed the court’s rules and stayed out of trouble for 12 months.

Semaj made it to nine.

How does a person get into the security-screening area without presenting a boarding pass?

“That’s what we’re investigating,” said Dwayne Baird, a regional spokesman for the Transportation Security Administration.

“It appears right now through the tapes we reviewed that he sort of snuggles up to a family or another individual and kind of slithers on by.”

Baird said Semaj apparently made his move after first standing back and observing the screening procedure.

“This kid stands in the background to watch things happen, as it were.”


[Edited 2008-05-28 11:48:03]

[Edited 2008-05-28 11:48:21]

37 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7217 times:

Looks like this kid has two real good things going for him. An absolute parent of the year in his mother and a really bright future ahead of him.


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User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10675 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7024 times:

I see a possible presidential candidate in the making!  duck   stirthepot 


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User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6919 times:

... or the TSA should just hire the kid as a security consultant, seeing as he's been able to evade them a couple times.

I'd say the kid will make one heck of an intelligence officer/agent (or bank robber) with the skills he has.


User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7396 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6767 times:



Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 3):
I'd say the kid will make one heck of an intelligence officer/agent (or bank robber) with the skills he has.

He's of the same ilk as Frank Abagnale Jr. If they don't harness his powers for positive behaviours he will use them for negative.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days ago) and read 6768 times:

I think the TSA should be held accountable for this to be sure that this kid belongs to someone. Had the TSA asked, and no one claimed the kid....then the  redflag  would arise....


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4050 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6768 times:
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Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 3):

absolute best idea i have ever heard!!! hiring this kid as a Security consultant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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User currently offlineAviators99 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 456 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6768 times:

It sounds like he ends up going through the metal detector, so it doesn't seem like a security issue (This time. I guess the last time he actually got on the plane without a ticket).

User currently offlineChrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2185 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6287 times:



Quoting Aviators99 (Reply 7):
It sounds like he ends up going through the metal detector, so it doesn't seem like a security issue

Except those bozos at the TSA seems to think that matching an ID to the BP and doing all that nonsense with their black lights and magnifying glasses is a necessary security step.


User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2507 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6121 times:



Quoting PilotNTrng (Reply 1):
Looks like this kid has two real good things going for him. An absolute parent of the year in his mother and a really bright future ahead of him.

The kid fled from police in a stolen car, the next day he tries (again) to board a flight, both times returned to the custody of his mother.

Ya think maybe Mom's not doing a good job and the kid should stay with child protective services????



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6116 times:



Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 3):
... or the TSA should just hire the kid as a security consultant, seeing as he's been able to evade them a couple times.

Yup. And maybe they also need to realize that making an airport "secure" is not difficult, it's IMPOSSIBLE. Unless you are going to build all brand-new airports and design them like maximum-security prisons.

So maybe instead of sticking fingers up peoples' butts and insisting on a 1qt bag (but a 1 pt bag is not OK) for their 3 oz of fluid and strip-searching, they should focus on intelligence so that they catch the terrorists before they slip through security.

Quoting Mayor (Reply 2):
I see a possible presidential candidate in the making!

 rotfl   highfive   laughing  He's not ready just yet, though. He hasn't developed an alcohol and drug problem.  duck 


User currently offlineAviators99 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 456 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5540 times:



Quoting Chrisair (Reply 8):

Except those bozos at the TSA seems to think that matching an ID to the BP and doing all that nonsense with their black lights and magnifying glasses is a necessary security step.

Even though once you're past security, you could switch BPs with anyone you want without ever being checked again (on domestic flights). It just makes no sense that the article makes a big deal out of it as though it is a security issue.


User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5478 times:



Quoting Mayor (Reply 2):
I see a possible presidential candidate in the making!

The kid evaded security. Not a tour in the National Guard.  Silly



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User currently offlineYYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 999 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5024 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):
I think the TSA should be held accountable for this to be sure that this kid belongs to someone. Had the TSA asked, and no one claimed the kid....then the would arise....

Maybe they should include "count to 4" as a job qualification for the TSA?

nah, too stringent.


User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4805 times:



Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 9):
Ya think maybe Mom's not doing a good job and the kid should stay with child protective services????

Agreed. Someone is not doing their job as a parent. I'm sure she's a victim too.... Big grin

When I was ten, I couldn't ride my bike around the block without my Mom or Dad knowing. How this kid gets to an airport is beyond me.


User currently offlineGBan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4497 times:



Quoting Aviators99 (Reply 7):
It sounds like he ends up going through the metal detector, so it doesn't seem like a security issue (This time. I guess the last time he actually got on the plane without a ticket).

Even if he gets on the plane without a ticket it is not a security issue. If he'd get on the plane with some weapon (with or without ticket), that would be a security issue...


User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4460 times:



Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 9):

I hear ya. I also think charges should be brought up on the mother. She obviously is neglecting this kid.



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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3584 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4262 times:

The kid is 10 and already thinking how to get through airport security (he stood back and watched it, carefully) and stealing cars. Where is his mother? Probably at the welfare office... That child needs CPS to step in as his "mother" is obviously not a parent.


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User currently offlineRiyadhnurse From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 99 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4125 times:

The kid been on Dr. Phil,and was set up with some excellent family counselors etc.The juvenile justice system can't control this kid,so it's time for some "rough justice". No doubt this boy has some issues controling impulsive irrational acts,I say a "hard time" in San Quentin so he can learn from the best.Maybe he wants to be the "new" DB Cooper ? duck  Big grin


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

Hire the Kid in Airport security.He'll give them tips.  Smile
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MEL



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User currently offlineCJAContinental From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

Seems like a smart kid though neverless. I think the wrong thing to do would be to try and take away his "skills", as this would only further push him to rebel. I think they have to find a way of diverting his skills for something more legal.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3150 times:



Quoting CJAContinental (Reply 20):
Seems like a smart kid though neverless.

Which scares me poopless.

An evil genius is a truly frightening thing...


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21590 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Guys, he's a little kid who goes through metal detectors. He doesn't pose a threat. Even if he went crazy on a plane, you could hold him down just by stepping on him. He's only 10.

Now, if 19 year old men were sneaking through security by crouching down and holding on to someone else's leg, there's a problem.

Not just for security, but for the people with the legs

But personally, I thought we all found it ridiculous we were even screening children and old people to begin with, and we were wasting resources that should be spent on profiling for PC reasons...

But now it's a national security risk when one kid doesn't get screened properly?



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User currently offlineSBBRTech From Brazil, joined Jul 2007, 722 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3036 times:



Quoting PilotNTrng (Reply 1):
An absolute parent of the year in his mother and a really bright future ahead of him.



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21):
An evil genius is a truly frightening thing...

And he accomplished all that even before trying booze or dope...



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2977 times:



Quoting Aviators99 (Reply 11):
It just makes no sense that the article makes a big deal out of it as though it is a security issue.



Quoting GBan (Reply 15):
Even if he gets on the plane without a ticket it is not a security issue. If he'd get on the plane with some weapon (with or without ticket), that would be a security issue...

Sorry, but there must be something wrong with me I guess. Someone (a child in this case) makes a habit of successfully evading a 'security' screen in place around airside access in an airport.......and it's NOT a security issue to you???
In which case, exactly what type of 'issue' is it then?
Having a weapon or not has nothing whatever to do with it!


25 Luv2cattlecall : A system is only as strong as its weakest link.....and it is DAMN easy to change the name on a boarding pass using Microsoft Word (I know I'll get fl
26 Ikramerica : call me crazy, but I'm not afraid of a 10 year old kid without a gun. but he's not my kid. a child can be a safety issue, mostly to him/herself. but
27 DocLightning : In three short years (or less!) that kid is going to hit puberty. And in another two or three he is going to be a full-grown man. And if someone does
28 AirframeAS : Sorry for hijacking the thread, but what the hell is that blacklight thing on drivers license supposed to be about?!
29 AirNZ : Nope, not calling you crazy at all, but I vehemently disagree with you. In this case it was a 10 year-old kid who seems to make a habit of being able
30 JoseKMLB : TSA don't care the only thing there looking for is that big fat paycheck.
31 LTBEWR : I doubt a 10 year old could do the same thing at security at most airports outside the USA, especially in Europe. Probably the pressure on TSA agents
32 Ikramerica : And then he won't be able to sneak through security by pretending to be someone else's 10 year old kid... You are failing to understand HOW he did it
33 DocLightning : No, he'll have other tricks up his sleeve. You think he's going to stick with airports forever?
34 Brilondon : They would not know where to start.
35 AirNZ : Kids getting into trouble because they're young is one thing, and perfectly natural to a large degree but I have to say I would have thought that you
36 DocLightning : Not only that, but Al-Qaeda has demonstrated that they are not above using children as accessories to terrorism. And they were even training young te
37 Chrisair : The TSA wants to appear like they're doing something, hence they use a blacklight to see if you have a hologram on your papers. I have an old license
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