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LH With A332 On ADD/KRT This Fall?  
User currently offlineEyeonthesky17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 95 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3629 times:

I was looking at availability in Amadeus and see that LH is showing an A332 for FRADD/KRT this coming fall. I'd thought those had been sold or moved to LX. Does anyone have any info on this?

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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3284 times:



Quoting Eyeonthesky17 (Thread starter):
I was looking at availability in Amadeus and see that LH is showing an A332 for FRADD/KRT this coming fall. I'd thought those had been sold or moved to LX. Does anyone have any info on this?

There are rumors on a German forum that LH takes some of LX's 332 in Autumn.


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2161 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3209 times:

What aircraft are they using now? Is there a capacity difference?

User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3191 times:



Quoting AF022 (Reply 2):

What aircraft are they using now? Is there a capacity difference?

They currently use an AB6. So there might be a slight increase in capacity, but a bigger one in comfort.


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9375 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3072 times:

The AB6s in long distance config are not too nad, was on one TXL-FRA yesterday.

LH has one AB6 up forsale (D-AIAI) makes sense that they eventually take some 332s



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User currently offlineQazar From Canada, joined May 2006, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

I think that is a very good move on behalf of LH.

I was always surprised how come LH never bought into the A332 when it purchased every other type of Airbus (with the exception of the A345). I believe the A332 would be a great match to some of their destinations in Kazakhstan, Africa and their twice daily to Cairo replacing the ageing A300s. The A332 is also compatible with their other Airbus fleet... I think it's about time they did this, but somehow have a feeling that the A332 will again be short-lived in LH service!

Cheers!


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2585 times:



Quoting Qazar (Reply 5):
I was always surprised how come LH never bought into the A332 when it purchased every other type of Airbus (with the exception of the A345).

They operated the A332 if I am not wrong now for some time and gave them away when the A333 came.

Just checked the database:

See here, they did have the A332.  Smile


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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2529 times:



Quoting JoFMO (Reply 1):
There are rumors on a German forum that LH takes some of LX's 332 in Autumn.

The rumor is also that some A306 will be replaced by A332s from LX.



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User currently onlineEMB170 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 648 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

They did operate the A332...I thought that that was a stopgap measure until their A333s arrived, and they had just leased the planes (A332s) from LX.

I thought that LH still flew the AB6 (and didn't operate the A332 on purpose) for the same reason AA still flies the AB6...for the missions on which they put it, there's no other plane out there that can handle the load (especially cargo) that the short to medium range flights require.



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2466 times:



Quoting EMB170 (Reply 8):
They did operate the A332...I thought that that was a stopgap measure until their A333s arrived, and they had just leased the planes (A332s) from LX.

They took them from both SR and SN when they went bankrupt.


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9375 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2284 times:

Besides the fact that one AB6 is up for sale, they will keep the majpority of the AB6 fleet for somet time to come. A decision for replacement will be made by 2011. Until then, we will see the "Kontschaufel" oin domestic and high density European flights.


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User currently offlineQazar From Canada, joined May 2006, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2244 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 6):
They operated the A332 if I am not wrong now for some time and gave them away when the A333 came.

I think I may have miswritten my true meaning. I am aware that LH has operated the A332 in the past as it leased 2 or 3 A332s from SABENA and Swissair following their demise. This, however, was a stopgap measure until they received the A333s they had on order.

My comment was more directed towards the actual outright purchase of A332s as part of their longer-term fleet planning. Considering the age of the A300s, I always thought that the A332s were ideal to provide LH with an aircraft that has the range and capacity (both pax and cargo) of the A300 but with better economics (I say that with reservation - not being very updated on the economic performance of the A332 vs the A300 with regards to different routes... However, I assume that since the A332 has incorporated at least 20 years of newer technology development, that it's economics and especially fuel burn are better than the A300s).

I can see the A332 providing better comfort and economic utilization on the medium-range routes in Africa and Asia - presently served by modified A300s... At least the new business class can be introduced on these routes providing the airline with a worldwide uniform service. Furthermore, the A332 provides in my opinion the ability to serve markets where the A333 may be a tad bit too large... This in terms of new routes or increasing services to presently served routes... I'm thinking primarily of LH's present sporadic services to the Middle East... although they may be the #1 European airline serving the region, the A332 may provide them with a more efficient operation in terms of city pairing and frequency of services.

Also when comparing the range and capacity of the A321 versus the A333 (both in the LH fleet), I believe that their is yet another argument to justify positionning the A332s in the airline's fleet. Basically the smallest transcontinental aircraft in the LH fleet is the A333 - which happens to be the largest aircraft in many of the world's airlines fleets...

Cheers!


User currently offlineLH648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

Five A332 were operated by LH before. D-AIMA, B, C, D and E. Not sure about the others, but AIMD and AIME had an PTV in economy  Smile


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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

It would make sense that LH would get the 2 A332's (ex Sabena and also flying with LH before) again from LX this fall as HB-IQQ & R are going to leave the fleet by the end of the summer as they will be replaced with A343's

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