Hp2us From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 58 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7205 times:
I saw the commercial last night, I think they just repainted the Caravelle, but I think the flying was just a computer effect. I did have to rewind the show I was watching and do a double take, but I am pretty sure it wasn't real sadly.
JetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1421 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6928 times:
I believe we were the last to fly these planes at airborne express. If im not mistaken one of the crew membes told me that one of the ones i went up in used to belong to United.
I had worked planes for 20 years and had never seen one till i climbed aboard. It was a very odd plane and confusing as i was trying to compare it to a dc-9 and a 727-100 but the interior and cockpit all just looked wore az out. The capt told me the plane was really under powered
and didnt seem to to haull that much freight,, besides the dehaviland comet, this plane took the cake as the most baffleing piece of machinery ive ever seen.
20 minutes later i found a dc-9 out of the few we had at the time with a small exhaust looking vent near the rear engine,, where this plane came from that i dont know either but it had been set up for jato but was not operational when we got it.. At freight companies you really get some weird aircraft as many airlines have differnt configs and special options. I dont think there were 2 planes that were the exact same Fedex in the begining and may still have differnt planes with differnt quirks or options
Type-Rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4723 posts, RR: 20 Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 6729 times:
I saw a ex UA Caracelle sitting at in front of the Frontier hanger at DEN in 1972 or so. It had been withdrawn from use.
Yes, inside those things it's very strange. The doors are more like DC-10 doors, only manually operated, and those triangular windows are weird. Plus all those radio racks filled with tube style radio equipment was more like what you'd find on a M404 than a jet.
I do remember what they sounded like from the outside. They were really screamers! Much louder than anything flying today! But I never got the chance to actually fly on one!
Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
LAXCDG From France, joined Apr 2008, 44 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6205 times:
what a beauty in those pictures.I have very found memories of this lovely jet,too bad there isnt any program to make one or two fly like its done with the "connie" for example.
I flew as a passenger on the VI, 10B, super 12. Very loud baby on take off from outside but also from the back end of the cabin,otherwise very nice to fly despite being a bit cramped.One thing for sure the Caravelle like the 727,could take a lot of crap and keep flying,she was built like a tank.Very reliable but thirsty,especially the III and the VI with those RR Avon.
LawnDart From United States of America, joined May 2005, 968 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6154 times:
Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 7): besides the dehaviland comet, this plane took the cake as the most baffleing piece of machinery ive ever seen.
Interesting recollection, JetJeanes - my memory ain't what it used to be, but I believe Sud Aviation (builder of the Caravelle) bought the design for the cockpit of the Caravelle from DeHavilland, and it is, essentially, the cockpit of the Comet...thus, the fact that they are two of the most baffling pieces of machinery you've seen! Maybe someone with better knowledge (or memory) can enlighten, but at least the look the same
JetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1421 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6072 times:
Wow i see the resembalance now i guess that explains a lot of things. The one sitting in vanuys was it in cargo configuration.. I know at airborne the ys-11,s had cargo doors in the back but on the dc-9,s the c containers were brought in through the pax door instead of haveing a full cargo door on them. Im not sure about the caravelle i cant remember but i heard there was one stil in abx livery sitting in cmh or cvg,somewhere up there,,and i know that plane couldnt have been painted since the early 80,s because we didnt keep them long a more dc-9,s came on board then the dc-8,s We were so proud as i believe we were one of the first to have an all class cockpit on a dc-8,,Well as close as you can get for the 80,s
CEO@AFG From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 242 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6064 times:
Yes, Sud used the same cockpit section as the Comet did. The window layout was changed later on for the later models of the Caravelle, the Caravelle III and VI-N had the Comet layout, while the later VI-R, 10B3, 11R and 12 (Super Caravelle) had the slightly differing layout as seen on the Lifetime painted aircraft.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue." Steven McCroskey, Airplane!
This Caravelle has seen better days in the French Airforce in Tahiti (where I used to dispatch her in 1989/90) (she had a cargo door and could be used as a quick change, with a full pax :90 seats, or 1 88" palett + 72 seats or 2 palets and 56 seats)
She looked like this one, until being sold to Eureka, then Gabon Express in 1996
Highflier92660 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 628 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5874 times:
Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 7): I believe we were the last ones to fly these planes at airborne express. I one of the crew members told me if im not mistaken that one of the ones i went up in used to belong to United.
Airborne Express certainly flew some unusual aircraft back in the late 1970's and the Caravelle VI-R was one of them. As I understand it nearly all or all of the planes were originally delivered to United Airlines back in the early sixties and converted for cargo use using hampers as opposed to the LD cargo containers. The aircraft didn't have much range either, being scheduled out from Wilmington to Los Angeles with an intermediate stop at the old Denver Stapleton airport. As any bystanders could attest, the Roll-Royce powered Caravelle was also God's gift to noise.
I recently passed by the colorful N98KT parked at VNY. People constantly inquire about its type, origin and who owns it. Workers at Van Nuys sometimes tell visitors it's either owned by John Travolta (not true) or another flying celebrity such as Harrison Ford.