The paying of $15 for the first checked bag. (WN is NOT doing this)
To retire all Saabs by the end of this year.
Retirement of about 40 mainline aircraft(mostly MD's and A300's)
The retirement of 40 regional jets.
The discontinuation of several routes, more to come.
San Juan-Fort Lauderdale (ends September 3)
San Juan-Orlando (ends September 3)
San Juan-Newark (ends September 3)
San Juan-Los Angeles (ends September 3) (one of LA's only Carbi. Destination., One of the longest flights from SJU.
San Juan-Baltimore (ends September 3)
San Juan-Sint Maarten (ends September 3)
San Juan-Antigua (ends September 3)
San Juan-Santo Domingo (ends September 3)
San Juan-St. Thomas (ends September 3)
San Juan-Washington (ends September 3)
John F. Kennedy-London's Stansted (ends July 2)
Chicago-Buenos Aires (ends September 3)
Boston-San Diego(ends September 3)
Chicago-Honolulu (ends January 5, 2009)
People at RDU are fearing the worst. Flights to BDL,JAX,MCI,CMH,SDF are expected to be cut.
There will be major cutbacks coming to SJU. Any gueses on the cuts? BDL?
B777a340fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 11 hours ago) and read 17329 times:
Quoting Cal764 (Reply 3): I'm gonna argue that there not dropping like a rock, rather, their doing what they have to do to maintain durring these tough times...
We're all feelin' the pain
I would agree that there are "reasonable" measures in order to weather the storm US airlines are going through right now and I pray to God that they will be able to pull through. I could deal with the increase in food or even getting rid of the pathetic peanut/pretzel bags they give (or used to give). But charging $15 for a checked bag is ridiculous IMO. Everyone knows that people are going to try to stuff the overhead bin and you're only slowly down the boarding process in response thereto. anyways, i do hope that AA will survive. I could think of other airlines I'd rather see go under than AA.
Par13del From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 11 hours ago) and read 16922 times:
Quoting B777a340fan (Reply 6): I could think of other airlines I'd rather see go under than AA.
Everyone wants a legacy to go away for the good of the industry, funny that one, because we want the industry to raise fares to survive.
One legacy is the same as the other, we need something other than their fares to distinguish between them, AA is definately doing that, if MRTC is anything historical to go by, we will just have to wait and see how this pans out, June is almost here.
I believe the other carriers are waiting for implementation to see the results, if AA pax loads go down, you can bet the others won't follow. What should be remembered is that AA is not the major mover and shaker on the domestic front, they probably have routes where this will not have an adverse effect because customers have no choice.
Davescj From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 11 hours ago) and read 16694 times:
I'm surprised at the # of hits San Juan is taking. The MDs retirement isn't a complete surprise, and remember they are getting new 737s to replace them. The San Juan LAX flight is a surprise, but there ya go.
As I think about this, what doesn't surprise as much as a 20% increase, which is overprice for what you receive, but th ODD dollar......with a 5, was easier for change, now single bills iwll be needed. Unless you can prepay at the airport or with a credit/debit card.
Canadians? I don't know the size of the $6 booze at AA, but AC charges $6 for 50 ml mini bottles of booze. Most bars in Canada charge $6+ for a shot, tha's an imperial ounce. Compared to that, booze on an airplane is a bargain.
KochamLOT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 10 hours ago) and read 16128 times:
6 dollars for a sanwhich on a plane is not that much. Think of it as a little more than a gallon of gas.
Sure WN isnt chraging for bags, but AA isnt WN!
Good Job AA for being proactive and leading the way.
PRAirbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 10 hours ago) and read 16048 times:
AA is not the only one announcing cutbacks, way before AA, UA announced grounding of over 30+ jets, B6 is selling some A320's and deferring orders, AirTran is deferring too...Spirit lost millions...keep in mind most US Majors took refuge on Chapter 11/bankruptcy after 9-11 and AA did not. Perhaps that was a mistake on AA's part, they should have gone bankrupt too and take advantage of it like UA, DL, NW did...AA still has a stronger balance sheet than other US Majors...not implying that they are safe from going under but I bet AA will not be the first one to go belly up...UA, US, Frontier are in far worse shape. AA could still trim a lot and be around for a while.
DeltAirlines From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 10 hours ago) and read 15997 times:
AA's not the only one raising prices for alcohol - I know for the Heineken and the new Leinenkugel beers the cost will be $6 (Amstel Light and the undrinkable Miller Lite will still be $5) will be $6 next month; forget what's happening with the other types of alcohol though.
LACA773 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 10 hours ago) and read 15804 times:
People here have been very quiet about it, AA is also axing, STN effective 2 July. To me and many other's this is not unexpected. What a shame. Maybe there would have been a slight, or remote chance EOS could've stayed in the game a bit longer until AA pulled out but it worked out the way AA wanted.
ABQopsHP From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 10 hours ago) and read 15693 times:
I was just thinking about the JFK-STN service. Ever notice that AA goes into a new market right about the same time as another carrier (new or otherwise), and manages to outlast the other carrier, only to pull out of the market once that carrier is gone? They increased service out of RDU when XE was starting up "Branded". Now "Branded" looks to be going away and I wouldnt be surprised if AA reduces service in other markets where they and another carrier were duking it out. AUS to southern California for starters?
UnitedSuperDC8 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 9 hours ago) and read 15599 times:
I would hardly say American Airlines is dropping like a rock. I would say they are adapting to the current business envrionment without further delay.
I do think $6 is a bit high for a beer or mini - but I would be willing to pay it at a bar and I can't buy it anywhere else when I am on the plane. I don't always drink on flights, but sometimes I do like to relax and have a double while watching a movie or before a nap.
$15 for the first bag is kind of a bummer - but we will get used to it and build it in to our purchase decisions. Although, if no other major goes along with this - I can't imagine AA will stand alone with this charge.
I think AA has equipped the flight attendents with the portable CC readers on the aircraft. I took a flight PHX-DFW in April of 2007 and I'm pretty sure they had the credit card readers...like the attendents have at the rental car drop-off.
BigGSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 9 hours ago) and read 15503 times:
Curious. Why is AA "dropping like a rock" for making business decisions to try and stabilize revenue? They might not be popular ($15 for the first bag, $6 for alcohol), or seemingly predatory (dropping STN after the competition left), but this is business. I think they are doing what they can to maximize their resources in this economy. Everybody has to.
Ouch -- that's going to annoy a lot of my co-workers here who have used (and liked) the flight -- I sit next to someone who loves that routing and will be flying it this week -- much easier to get to STN from Cambridgeshire to fly TATL than LGW or LHR. Of course, in my case, I suck it up and take the train to Gatwick...I'm looking forward to the DL 764 LGW-ATL this Wednesday!
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 8 hours ago) and read 15131 times:
AA is scraping the bottom of the barrel and seriously ruining its reputation. the charges for food and drink and to check a suitcase is ridiculous. Also if they are retiring the A300s what about all the cargo argument, which AA has consistently thrown up when people have talked about retring the 300s?
If WN shut down would all airlines follow suite?...
WN and AA are not really comparable as they are two different types of airlines. Don't kid your self. Charging for checked baggage is all the rage in Europe with the LCC's. It is only a matter of time when this would end up in North America. AC charges for pre selecting your seat. Everybody charges for something to eat. Etc...
: They don't drop like a rock. They finally do what is necessary. These meassures are maybe the ones that will safe the airline.
: if you want t osee "dropping like a rock" look at your own airline
: Regarding the price of a drink and/or food on AA (or any airline), we need to remember that pax in an airplane are a captive audience, and suppliers a
: Did you read that press release about AA saying WN was going to charge bags. Southwest Airlines News Releases ---------------------------------------
: It looks like I can't afford to fly AA any more. TUL-DFW-TUL leaving Monday evening, returning Wednesday afternoon is currently $955.49. All the after
: Hhmmmm, that might not be such a bad thing, imagine if AA had bought fuel hedges, or DL or NW for that matter, think they would have gone into Chpt.1
: Even though, I am going to MYR this summer and US was kinda pricey for 5 people, so I was going to take the BDL-RDU flight and drive which was like $
: San Juan-Fort Lauderdale (ends September 3) San Juan-Orlando (ends September 3)San Juan-Los Angeles (ends September 3) (one of LA's only Carbi. Destin
: No airline is perfect, but here is reality: American Airlines, despite it's misfortunes, has a 100% chance of being around and still flying in three
: Im sooo fed up with this bashing of the legacies thats going on here............. First and foremost, were here to make money....... This is the only
: That is the point. If you can't afford what it costs to transport you - you can't go. AA and other carriers, their employees, their shareholders, and