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The 707 Today.  
User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1136 times:

Would you fly a B707 or 720 on a scheduled US airline if it were well maintained and refitted with new avionics and engines?


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User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1043 times:

Is this a trick question???? Why wouldn't you?

JET


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1028 times:

Oh hell, yes I most certainly would fly it again!
The same goes for the Convair 880 & 990.
They don't build them like they used to!! Regards.



"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1005 times:

Why not start up new airlines? The 707 or something classic aircraft so airline would making money more people who really want so badly ride the plane!

Big777jet

PS -
I never flown on 707, CV-990 and Super consellation.



User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 989 times:


Hi!

Thank God I flew the 707 still when it was operating around the world, I flew it 3 times and still if I knew someone was flying it I would go for it. That reminds me that in 1998 when I programmed my trip to USA I had a flight from Chicago to Seattle with United and I had 3 options, with 747-400 or the 777-200 or the DC-10, I choosed the DC-10 and I flew with N1811U, I know that soon after my flight United wfu that plane to be converted as a MD10 cargo, so I didn't looked back!!!
regards


User currently offlineAndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1004 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 941 times:

I'd fly on a 707 or 720 with the old avionics and engines - it wouldn't need to be refitted! In fact, I'd fly on one even if it wasn't particularly well maintained. Only ever flew on 2 707s and I'd love to fly on another... anytime, anyplace!

Andy


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 929 times:

I'd love to fly on a 707, DC8 or CV-99 coronado with their original engines again. They sounded like they had real power  Smile

Regards EGGD


User currently offlineClassic707 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 548 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 915 times:

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7937 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 909 times:

Oh baby. I went to Beirut in the very early 90s to get a ride on one and I'd go anywhere to do it again. The only option I can think of is Nairobi-Mogadishu-Bombay, and I just don't fancy Mogadishu. It makes Beirut at it's most dangerous look like Oslo by comparison.


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlinePendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 891 times:

Oh god yes!...beautiful aircraft....I have a quick question while I am on this subject....The last time we were waiting to taxi at atlanta...(nov 2000) I saw a four engined aircraft take off...it didnt look like an a340 at all and was putting off a larger amount of smoke than usual (roughly that or a little more than a 727) Is it possible that I saw a DC-8 or 707? it seemed a bit odd considering that I cant think of anyone who still flies them... thanks=)

User currently offlineNorseman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 873 times:

I would consider myself lucky to be flying on any classic airliner (707, 720, DC-8, convair 990, etc.). By the way, what ever happened to the Convairs?

User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3651 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 858 times:

Oh yes. I would definitely love to fly on a 707 anytime. The 707 is a beautiful legendary airliner, the very first jetliner Boeing has ever made, and the very first jetliner in US aviation history. I flew on a 707 once in my life back in 1985 when I flew from Rhodos (Greece) to Brussels. That was with TEA, a Belgian charter airline now out of business. One year ago when I was in Egypt I was hoping to fly on one. Luxor Air still has them, I saw those in Aswan. But I didn't because I was booked on Egypt Air which no longer has 707's. Most 707's today are used in the military or cargo operations. There are very few passengers 707's still flying in 2001, they are in Africa and in the Middle East. I think that excluding the military, VIP transport and freighters, you can count all of them with your fingers!

Best regards,

Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium



Ben Soriano
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 845 times:

I would jump at the chance to fly this legendary airplane. Guess I'll have to keep hoping for a ride on a KC-135, before I leave the miltiary.

User currently offlineAAtripleseven From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 843 times:

Didn't United retire its last 707 in 1991? Pretty recent.

User currently offlineMit From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 842 times:

AAtripleseven,

You're probably thinking of the DC-8. Both Delta and United re-engined a number of theirs with less noisy & thirsty high-bypass turbofans. They stayed in operation until 88/89. TWA retired it's last 707 in 1983 or so. I believe they were the last US operator. There was a recent thread on the retirement with some very nice pics of the final flight to JFK.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 825 times:

Yes indeed!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I love the 707!
The last one was build in 1977 yet vanished from US fleets around 1984 and non-US carriers around 1991.
Yet there are many 30 year old 747s, 727s and 737 and even DC-8s still in service.
Why was such a classic American symbol put to death so soon?

Anybody know why?

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User currently offlineN907CL From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 255 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 818 times:

The government bought most 707s for spares. Most DC-8s that are in service are stretch models, which held more than normal DC-8s or 707s. There was never a stretch model 707, due to its short landing gear would have to be redesign, and Boeing was busy designing the 747. With the re-engine program in the early 1980s, DC-8s were giving a new lease on life. At some point in an airliners life, its not worth overhauling anymore and sold for parts and scrap. There are hardly any 727-100s, 737-100s, 747-100s and DC-8-50s left in service.


Brian
User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 811 times:

Pendrilsaint,
Perhaps what you saw was an Airborne Express DC-8F.



Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 41
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 809 times:

I'd fly any type of aircraft.


Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineDaEvOsH From Spain, joined Feb 2001, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 804 times:

Here in Latin America there are several active 707, it is a pretty common sight. A local carrier bought all the old ones from the leading companies to open a budget airline, so getting to fly on one is pretty easy.

User currently offlineTan flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 804 times:

In a NY min.!I miss the sound, the seat of your pants power of the 707's & DC-8"s.

Domesticly I can recall 120's of both TWA &AA , series 50's of DL and maybe UA. 60's of both Dl & UA for sure..loved the 62's! and the 71/73 series in the 1980's of DL & UA. One Intl experience that I can recall , an Avianca 707 from Cartagena back to the US. Have seen some old LAdeco 707's at SCL years ago.


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3224 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 805 times:

It was a good plane. I flew on 707s of BWIA and Pan Am in the 1970s; my last 707 flight was in 1981 on BWIA from Antigua to Port of Spain. The planes were indeed legendary. BWIA sold off its 707s the following year (it owned 6); the now defunct Caribbean Air Cargo of Barbados took 2, 3 went to the United States and the last was retained at the airport as a fire drill test unit until 1990, when it was broken up and shipped to Tobago for the filming of a movie, "The Last Island".

No 707s come to POS any more but several DC8s continue to fly here on cargo missions. Arrow is one of the operators. The planes can easily be noted by the plume of thick smoke they emit.

Trintocan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlineCicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 795 times:

the only US domestic 707 i can think of is the 707-100 that is John Travolta's private jet. DC-8s still around - even a few non-stretch ones. Saw one at EWR couple of weeks ago; airline unknown. but, I think Emery still fly some. The Stretch DC-8s still utilized by Airborne and UPS as well. The Convairs are finished. Last one(s) were about 1980 on JFK - Puerto Rico cargo run.. Modern Air i beleive. still some in the desert. Fox TV was supposed to get one flying for the purposes of crashing it during a network TV ratings "sweeps" week, but it never happened. I hear elvis' private Convair 880 is on display in graceland though.

tom


User currently offlineAmbasaid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 785 times:

Why do you think that the B707 is any better than a B737-200 or B727. They all have the same fuselage!



User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10365 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 779 times:

I miss the 707. Technically outdated, it has no chance any more. But its still one of the most beautiful airliners ever, coming in second in the ranks of elegance after the 747. When I´m at an airport I prefer to see a single 707 over a hundred A320s, B737s and all the other boring modern Twin-Jets up to the 777!


25 Round_Engine : In the US, government noise regulations killed the B707. I used to travel a lot from Washington, DC to Phoenix, AZ and LA in the late 1970's/early 198
26 Superfly : Man those were the good old days of flying! Na, I agree 100%!
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