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User currently offlineCrewchief From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

I've been checking airfares for some travel that I'll be doing this summer and I've come across some anomalies. They could be indicative of deeply flawed pricing models. Take 'em for what their worth:

TPA-SAN, one way fares: WN Business Select is $405, Delta First/Business can be had for as low as $425. Why fly Business Select?

IAD-TPA one way fare, FL charges $85. Driving costs $436 (900 mi @.485/mi), Amtrak is $175 -- and Greyhound is $138. When an airline underprices Greyhound by nearly 40%, something is very, very wrong.

ORD to Seattle, one way: multiple airlines $250, driving $1000 (2063 mi @ .485/mi). A family of 4 could fly for what it costs to drive, and save themselves several day's travel time.

I think we have many people flying across the nation who but for the low fares would not travel at all. Airlines who could sell time savings are simply giving the product away, fighting to fill seats at a loss. The economic loss is clear: just look at the airlines P&Ls.

(Rant mode on)

It's time adults took over. The kids running the show today are running it into the ground.

(Rant mode off)

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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

Did you by any chance check any routes that have no true LCC competition?

Price a PHL-BOS o/w on either DL and US and you'll see what I'm talking about... $450-500 for a one-hour Coach-Class flight. That's nuts.

Check a few other monopolized routes and you'll see more airfare follies but from the other side of the coin.

Food for thought: had the legacy carriers not gotten so greedy during the 90s and charged whatever they wanted just because they could; maybe the blossoming of LCCs would not have occurred nor have been as rampant. There's a reason WHY WN was widely embraced by PHL travelers, flight delays and all.

Long story short, the legacy (as a whole) carriers did it to themselves.



"TransEastern! You'll feel like you've never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!" SNL Parady ad circa 1981
User currently offlineCrewchief From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2088 times:



Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 1):
Check a few other monopolized routes and you'll see more airfare follies but from the other side of the coin.

I agree. The pricing is ludicrous, and harmful. Like I said, it's time the adults took over.


User currently offlineTys777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

I routinely fly

TYS-BIS/STC
CHA-BIS/STC

fares for a coach ticket on those routes runs me between 700$ and 900$ now



Is it bad that I get excited to see even a CRJ overfly? Man, what this place does to you
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

This is my weekly expenditure:

Flight Origin-Destination Date Fare Basis Code Status
NW 3777 DTW-CVG 02Jun2008 BBF Available
NW 5890 LEX-DTW 05Jun2008 BBF Available

Base Fare: USD1030.69 Tax:14.00

Tax:77.31 Tax:7.00 E-Ticket Total: USD1129.00


User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1820 times:



Quote:
TPA-SAN, one way fares: WN Business Select is $405, Delta First/Business can be had for as low as $425. Why fly Business Select?

You are comparing apples & oranges. One key thing about all WN Business Select or Full Coach fares.......

THEY"RE REFUNDABLE.

Round trip on DL on a fully refundable F ticket starts at a little more than $1300 each way.

Many business folks go someplace not knowing when the meetings will be over.

Many businessmen find out they need to be someplace on extremely short notice and can't book a F ticket 14 or 21 days in advance.

Many businessmen don't want to get hosed because they got tied up and their return flight left and they weren't on it.

On WN that isn't a problem. That Business Select is fully refundable and it can be used on any other flight that has seats available.

That's not true on Delta's $425 F ticket. It is on Delta, but only if you cough up roughly $1300 each way.


User currently offlineCrewchief From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1329 times:



Quoting TxAgKuwait (Reply 5):
You are comparing apples & oranges. One key thing about all WN Business Select or Full Coach fares.......

THEY"RE REFUNDABLE.

Very true, and that's why I booked Delta outbound, and WN inbound. I absolutely know when I'm leaving, but not when I'm returning. I think WN has the best Y product, but at the same price Delta's forward cabin is a bit nicer.


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