MillwallSean From Singapore, joined Apr 2008, 1387 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3368 times:
Alitalia is otalian and belive me they will find a way to keep Alitalia alive. The government will sort it and do it in a way so that EU wont be able to act.
There is a reason for the EU using the Italian diplomats when they cant solve things. The way they tricked Thatcher into allowing countries to move ahead without absolute majority in the EC is legendary. She came out of the meeting held somewhere in Italy and proudly announced that Britain held its ground. the Italians agreed but when everything was signed and ratified the wording had been put in such a way that the rest of the EC had gotten their way. Legendary stuff and one of the first things they teach you in politics these days.
So if the Italians want they will find a way to inject enough capital into AlItalia. The questions is if they want it bad and if the present coalition agrees on how.
What I dont understand is why the Northern Italian banks dont give full financial support to Air One instead and make that the airline of Northern Italy. It will do all what AlItalia has tried and this without overstaffing and the AlItalias unions.
A fast way to get a worldclass Italian carrier, compare that to pouring money into the overstaffed and very confrontational AlItalia.
Ryanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2726 times:
This is definitely ironic... Alitalia was one of the great carriers of the past while Aeroflot was a Soviet-backed government vehicle for all aviation related activity. Glamour was associated with the former while harsh spartan like images accompanied the latter.
Oh how the tables have changed for Aeroflot being able to say "thanks, but no thanks" to a former glamour-puss that is Alitalia!
Welcome to my starry one world alliance, a team in the sky!
JFK787NYC From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2354 times:
The Russian Federation has learned it's lesson from the failure of the Soviet Union. The Russian Federation is all about the money now and they understand that capitalism is the only way to make it happen.
But, Even though I am sure Russia & Mr. Putin thought about purchasing Alitalia for a prestigious point of view, But Mr. Putin understands that he has no knowledge of the airline business and I am sure Mr. Okulov was summoned to Mr. Putin's office for a sit down about Alitalia. Mr. Okulov explained what maybe the possibilities of turning Alitalia around and the risk was probably much greater then the reward.
Besides, Political high ranking officials in Russia & Kazakhstan are starting to feel that the West thinks they are in business for Power & not profit. They are starting to get the feeling they are being treated like the Japanese in New York in the 1980s. Russia is not the same as it was even Three years ago, If Alitalia was in its current shape Three years ago this deal might of went through then. But, today is a whole different ball game.
Russia understands what is going on in the world, Money is not cheap anymore even in Russia. They are starting to think twice about projects and if you look Three to Four years back and pay attention to how fast GazProm was growing and how much debt it accomalated in those years to today you would be able to see that Russia is trying to slow down and much calmer.