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CLE-CDG/LGW A Good Alternative?  
User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Continental must be pretty happy with the operational performance of the CLE-LGW and CDG routes not only do they have good load factors they operate pretty much on time!!. Both these flights usually always arrive before the EWR flights..I know CLE has a crappy customs facility,but the time you save actually getting here and going there would out weigh the benefits of going through EWR or ORD, even on the 757.


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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Example yesterday

EWR-LGW 114 20mins late
EWR-LGW 116 42mins late
CLE-LGW 1 min early



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User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1854 times:



Quoting CLE757 (Thread starter):

I think the preference still probably varies from person to person, but as for me, I'd rather connect through CLE to go ANYWHERE on CO than go through EWR. If I see a CO flight through EWR, I skip it and pick the next one on the list. I've always thought CLE was a great place to make connections on CO.



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User currently offlineNcflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 492 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1781 times:

cle 757 are loads good on both? I'll tell you when I look at seat selection on continental.com, both are wide open, but especially LGW. (I know websites aren't the greatest way to get at seat availability). I figure'd that CDG service is going to cannibalize LGW since CDG has superior connection potential.

User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

[quote=Ncflyer,reply=3]cle 757 are loads good on both?[/quote

CDG is doing great, probably 80-90%load factor
LGW probably 70%,but does pick up this month



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User currently offlineFUN2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

I'm sure there is some cannibalizaiton of LGW by CDG for connection purposes. I've connected on the LGW one a few times, but not a lot of options and not streamlined.

The fate of both of these flights will really depend on what alliance CO ends up with. However, at this time they need to justify themselves on their own merit. The prices for CDG are much higher than LGW ($1250 CDG for July departure vs. $775 for LGW on the days I checked). That bodes well for keeping it.

And, of course, the ongoing discussions on AMS for 2009 and LGW vs. LHR. As a CLE flyer, I'm just happy that we have direct TATL options and they seem to be doing well.


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1472 times:



Quoting CLE757 (Thread starter):
I know CLE has a crappy customs facility,but the time you save actually getting here and going there would out weigh the benefits of going through EWR or ORD, even on the 757.



Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 2):
I think the preference still probably varies from person to person

On July 11, I will be flying from CDG to CLE. I had the choice of flying direct on a 757. After some serious thought, i decided to take the 777 to EWR. I didn't think i could handle 9 hours in a 757... now... i'm starting to regret this decision.... i'm considering switching flights, as a resident of the greater Cleveland area and a fan of CO, i feel obligated to support that route/flight... what are your guys thoughts?

CO7e7


User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5757 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1466 times:



Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 6):
didn't think i could handle 9 hours in a 757...

What's the difference between 9 hours in a 757 and 9 hours in a 777? Same economy seat (OK, it's 0.8" narrower), same food, same chance of a middle seat given CO's 3-3-3 layout.

I'm always surprised by the strong feeling out there that narrowbody TATL flights are substantially different from widebody ones.

I'd take the CLE flight. Much less chance of getting stuck in EWR purgatory.


User currently offlineMsntriathlete From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

From small midwestern cities like MSN, avoiding delayed connections is at least as important as the service level or aircraft type. For example, connecting through seldom-delayed cities like MSP and DTW is often worth the admittedly lower service levels of NW. CLE is likewise a seldom-delayed city and is thus a great airport through which to connect. The bonus is the fine service of CO. Last fall, I flew MSN-CLE-LGW. Like others who contributed entries above, I thought long and hard about going TATL in the 777 vs the 757, but the more convenient connection through CLE vs. certain delays in EWR ultimately won out. It turned out the 757 was a pleasure to fly TATL in BusinessFirst, and the service levels exceeded the already-excellent serivce I experienced on CO widebody TATL flights in the past. I have a trip report on a.net for that trip. While I'm not a CO-diehard fan and fly lots of different airlines, I highly recommend the TATL 757 flights from CLE and hope they contine to do well.

User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1372 times:



Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 7):
What's the difference between 9 hours in a 757 and 9 hours in a 777?

The same difference between a 5 hour drive in a VW bug and a Chevy Blazer SUV!!  Wink

I've never flown TATL in a 757 so i don't really know what it's like. I've based my decision solely on trip reports that i read on a.net + the recommendations of many a.net member who already tried it.

Like i said in my previous post, i'm contemplating changing my itinerary...

CO7e7


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4029 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1363 times:
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Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 6):

b/c its a new route, i would take the non-stop. another route to cross off on the list!!! You could always go non-stop going over, connect on the way back, or the other way around.



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