Mason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 747 posts, RR: 1 Posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3390 times:
Can't believe this one hasn't been posted. The much rumored (and now a reality) 763ER service SLC-CDG begins today. An article on the KSL-NBC site states proudly: "Salt Lake will be the only city in the West with non-stop service to Paris." I don't know what they consider the 'West', but obviously this isn't true (unless they only mean DEN and PHX). Best of luck to DL on this, the first intercontinental service from SLC.
SLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3858 posts, RR: 11 Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3249 times:
Quoting Mason (Thread starter): Can't believe this one hasn't been posted. The much rumored (and now a reality) 763ER service SLC-CDG begins today. An article on the KSL-NBC site states proudly: "Salt Lake will be the only city in the West with non-stop service to Paris." I don't know what they consider the 'West', but obviously this isn't true (unless they only mean DEN and PHX). Best of luck to DL on this, the first intercontinental service from SLC.
There will know doubt be those who think this service will tank thinking the Wasatch Front is too small to support this sort of service. But I should point out that both LH and Virgin Atlantic have approached the Salt Lake City Department of Airports about offering future service to LGW/LHR and FRA. SLC might not be the O&D markets that LAS, DEN or PHX are but it is geographically positioned to offer people from Europe an easy destination to see many of the wests great national parks from Yellowstone to Arches, Zion and the Grand Canyon.
DELTA Air Lines; The Only Way To Fly from Salt Lake City; Let the Western Heritage always be with Delta!
MastaHanky From United States of America, joined May 2006, 264 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3082 times:
If anybody else is on this flight, come say hi to me in 17F.
DL757FAN From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 32 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3072 times:
Does anyone have information regarding load factors and/or profitability? As I was born/raised in Salt Lake, I hope this flight exceeds expectations. Furthermore, it will be interesting to see O&D numbers vs. connecting numbers in the future.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15720 posts, RR: 48 Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2986 times:
Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1): it is geographically positioned to offer people from Europe an easy destination to see many of the wests great national parks from Yellowstone to Arches, Zion and the Grand Canyon.
MastaHanky From United States of America, joined May 2006, 264 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2971 times:
Quoting DL757FAN (Reply 4): Furthermore, it will be interesting to see O&D numbers vs. connecting numbers in the future.
Yesterday, the Salt Lake Tribune said the average flight had:
~40 O&D passengers between SLC and CDG
~90 passengers travelling SLC-CDG-xxx
~45 passengers travelling xxx-SLC-CDG
OA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4978 posts, RR: 25 Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2734 times:
Quoting Mason (Thread starter): I don't know what they consider the 'West', but obviously this isn't true (unless they only mean DEN and PHX). Best of luck to DL on this, the first intercontinental service from SLC.
Actually it is correct in a technical sense as California, Oregon, and Washington are technically the West Coast, not the West.
DALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 455 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2556 times:
Any chance of DL opening up any other routes from here if it successfull? Maybe LHR/FRA or AMS in far future?
LHR and FRA for the O&D and AMS for connecting PAX via the rest of Europe?
Could be interesting to see in the future. Maybe US Airways will open some other routes out of PHX if this works out for DL.
Zanair flight, please hold on finals as we have to clear rhino's off the runway. Next flight: AMS-FRA-SIN-FRA-AMS
Connections to/from San Diego and Santa Barbara also help pay the bills I'm sure. We'll see, but a 763 isn't really that big.
Quoting OA412 (Reply 9): Actually it is correct in a technical sense as California, Oregon, and Washington are technically the West Coast, not the West.
Yeah, it's sort of strange but the coast is the "West Coast" or "Pacific Coast" while the states inland of them are "The West" or "The Mountain West" and then the next group of states after the mountains are "The Plains" or the "High Plains"
Though when people say "out west" they are including just about everything past Texas/OK/Kansas.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
SLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3858 posts, RR: 11 Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2293 times:
Quoting DALCA (Reply 14): Any chance of DL opening up any other routes from here if it successfull? Maybe LHR/FRA or AMS in far future?
LHR and FRA for the O&D and AMS for connecting PAX via the rest of Europe?
Could be interesting to see in the future. Maybe US Airways will open some other routes out of PHX if this works out for DL.
Keep in mind that a few other carriers (LH, KL, Virgin Atlantic), have approached SLC about the possibility of service to other Europe destinations in the last couple of years.
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9157 posts, RR: 14 Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2263 times:
Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 20): I think many a.netters continue to underestimate the size and scope of the market and demography that SLC serves.
I think the population of Utah doubled in the time I worked in SLC from '82 til '05.
"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
SLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3858 posts, RR: 11 Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2239 times:
Quoting Mayor (Reply 21): I think the population of Utah doubled in the time I worked in SLC from '82 til '05.
2006 is the latest census numbers ( 2.6 million+). In 1982 it was about 1.5 million, and it is estimated Utah will be at or very near 3 million when 2010 is conducted. The three MSA's that make up the Wasatch Front are now well over 2 million people.
DELTA Air Lines; The Only Way To Fly from Salt Lake City; Let the Western Heritage always be with Delta!
USAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2680 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2233 times:
As of 602 pm EST, there were 21 seats left that were open. 92% full. Sure to fill up more.
BCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2233 times:
Quoting Mayor (Reply 21): I think the population of Utah doubled in the time I worked in SLC from '82 til '05.
Yeah, it's because of all those Mormon couples gettin' busy. They don't call it Breed 'em Young University for nothing!
25 Mayor: I thought so.......that's why I left when I retired.....getting too crowded.
26 EXAAUADL: In these conduit alliance markets, the big money comes from XXX-SLC-CDG-XXX
27 MaverickM11: It's a little bit bigger than IND-CDG.
28 Mayor: Okay.....DL170 pushed back from the gate at 4:58pm MDT......32 seats left in coach, business was full.....10 non revs in business and 5 in coach.
29 OA412: He's clearly talking about the size of the market that this flight will serve including points beyond CDG not just the SLC-CDG market.
30 MaverickM11: You still have to divide that "big money" over at least three separate flights, rendering it "not so big" money. Two stops are tough to count on prof
31 Planefxr: AMS would be next and Possibly NRT with 787 in the future.
32 MAH4546: If you reverse that to "SLC has approach a few other carriers," then you more than likely have it right. Why doesn't SLC worry about attracting Air C
33 SLCUT2777: http://www.slcairport.com/pdf/planning/slc_alp_report.pdf Read section 1.4 on the top right of page 1-2 of the .pdf. While it doesn't say "they" appr
34 Bobnwa: Do we take this to mean that zero passengers will be originating the round trip in Europe. I don't think so. someone needs to check their numbers aga
35 Imapilotaz: From experience, these airports are constantly "talking" with airlines regarding service, even if its nothing more than a friendly hello in an email
36 SLCUT2777: SLC for example has been trying since 2001 to get a TATL flight, and had started to lobby. They wanted one prior to the Winter Games in 2002, but the
37 Mayor: I can't remember what year it was but SLC thought sure they had a LGW route in the bag....instead it was given to AA at RDU and BNA. Must have been th
38 SLCUT2777: 1993; DL wanted that route authority to LGW for SLC, but USDOT Secretary Federico Pena, the former mayor of DEN had an axe to grind with DL for not m
39 Mayor: Sounds like when Mayor Daley held up construction of DL's new cargo building at ORD because we had pulled the rest of our flights out of MDW and move
40 MAH4546: Correct, it doesn't say neither because chances are it's entirely that SLCDA approached them. When an airline approaches an airport, that is a fact t
42 Alias1024: It all comes down to semantics. My definition of west would certainly include cities like LAX, SFO, and SEA. This reminds me of the signs I saw in Se
43 SLCUT2777: I wouldn't go that far, I would say it had reached a point of mutual consent more than anything. Unlike PIT and STL which are bending over backwards
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