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JetBlue Q&A: CEO Says It's Time To 'hunker Down'  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25406 posts, RR: 49
Posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5523 times:

Long Q&A with three JetBlue executives covering a wide range of subjects from fuel, capacity and network(very interested in accessing DCA), along with industry picture

Part one;
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...em.aspx?type=blog&ak=50683284.blog
part two;
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/blog.aspx


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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4263 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5304 times:

Doesn't really say anything we don't already know, and its about as brutally honest as you should expect an airline exec to be these days.


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User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5126 times:

I think the DCA comments are by far the most intriguing portion of the interview. They say it would augment their primary DC operation at IAD. They say the situation would be comparable to NYC where they base at JFK but also serve LGA, EWR, HPN, and SWF. If that's the case, I wonder if they are looking at BWI as well?

User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5032 times:
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Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 2):
I wonder if they are looking at BWI as well?

I hope they are looking at BDL. They could probably do well on the routes to Florida. Plus there is just Delta on those routes so they could probably compete well.
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User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4775 times:

jetBlue could possibly serve BDL-SJU if AA pulls out.

User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2679 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4723 times:



Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 2):
I wonder if they are looking at BWI as well?

I'd say no, given that B6 is most likely to run Florida destinations out of their East Coast stations, and competing with WN out of BWI with fuel this high is just not worth it. Now, if they were to offer BWI-JFK or BOS, I'd change my position.

Quoting Afitch7881 (Reply 4):
jetBlue could possibly serve BDL-SJU if AA pulls out.

AA isn't pulling out (yet, if ever). They definitely would've announced it with the rest of the SJU cuts if they had the intention of dropping it. Perhaps they're seeing if bookings remain strong before they make a final decision though.


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

If they are looking at expanding in the Washington market, why not look at Boston and serve PVD and MHT? If they moved a flight or two from BOS to either city it will free up some room in BOS and the people in the outer suburbs won't have to drive as far. I know WN is there, but they already compete with them anyway.


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User currently offlineCloudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 828 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

And WN is probably going to be moving into Boston soon, anyway. So what is the difference in that? i have always wondered why they didn't attack PVD and MHT - a number of people avoid flying through Logan and will choose another airline if BOS is the only place they can catch JetBlue.

AS for the interview, I think it pretty well says that JetBlue has become just another airline which thinks it's name is what is bringing in business and not the product. They are playing the same game as all the other airlines, and eventually they are going to become just like the other airlines, because they see only the dollar signs in front of a gallon of oil.

This should have been JetBlues big chance to change from being a low cost airline to a permium service airline, and mop a whole lot of market share. They could offer a better product for the dollar - better seats, no baggage fees, more service, AND they have room to grow. The bad economy is going to bring those fringe fliers down - those who barely qualify as frequent fliers, who now may have to live with coach because of budget cutbacks. JetBlue may not be the same as business, but it beats other's economy.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25406 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3749 times:

Additional portions of the interview are available.


Part 3 (Caribbean focus, Orlando focus city, JFK)
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...em.aspx?type=blog&ak=50702718.blog

Part 4 (Competing with legacy carriers, partners, an optimistic outlook, LAX)
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...em.aspx?type=blog&ak=50703424.blog



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User currently offlineMMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3659 times:



Quoting Cloudboy (Reply 7):
AS for the interview, I think it pretty well says that JetBlue has become just another airline which thinks it's name is what is bringing in business and not the product.

I thought the very point they were trying to get across was that they did offer a service different to other airlines that the brand was built on these ideals and perceptions that kept customer coming back. As opposed to the 'nickel and dime' mentality of the legacies. A refreshing change from getting less and paying more at all the legacies. B6 and now Virgin America seem to have gone a quality service route at a fair price, suits some travelers very well but not others. It's nice to have a choice.

Quoting Cloudboy (Reply 7):
because they see only the dollar signs in front of a gallon of oil.

As a business they always have to keep those dollar signs in mind. If there is a great product that no one will buy because it is too expensive then you have no business.

Interesting comments on the LH connection that they are looking at ways to link into the LH network. That could be an attractive service offering. Look forward to watching how that might develop.


User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3484 times:
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Quoting Afitch7881 (Reply 4):
jetBlue could possibly serve BDL-SJU if AA pulls out.

I never thought of that. But I thought AA was doing well on those routes. I would absolutely like to see them there. Is there anyway they would add flights to MSP? Prices are just through the roof to MSP and would like to see a decent price to go visit the family out there.
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User currently offlineRwex414 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

With Spirit doing so bad, could JetBlue pick up the slack and fly DTW-FLL or DTW-JFK?
Why has JetBlue never gone to DTW?


User currently offlineJaysan From India, joined Apr 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3442 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 6):
Boston and serve PVD and MHT? If they moved a flight or two from BOS to either city it will free up some room in BOS and the people in the outer suburbs won't have to drive as far. I know WN is there, but they already compete with them anyway.

Its a nice thought however keep in mind with oil at where it is one or two flights will not be enough to cover the cost of hiring a crew, paying business partners, rent and fuel and besides if they add overlapping service they would be competing with BOS for the same customer.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3246 times:



Quoting Rwex414 (Reply 11):
With Spirit doing so bad, could JetBlue pick up the slack and fly DTW-FLL or DTW-JFK?

Spirit's 2007 loss was less than $4M. While they are very vulerable, they are not doing "so bad."

Quoting Afitch7881 (Reply 4):
jetBlue could possibly serve BDL-SJU if AA pulls out.

AA most likely will not.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3078 times:



Quoting Jaysan (Reply 12):
Its a nice thought however keep in mind with oil at where it is one or two flights will not be enough to cover the cost of hiring a crew, paying business partners, rent and fuel and besides if they add overlapping service they would be competing with BOS for the same customer.

The way I saw it, you could fill a plane in PVD and MHT with customers in the suburbs where it is just as close if not closer to go out to those airports and it would involve moving a flight or two from BOS to those airports, and the flight removed could be replaced by a flight to a new destination. If you're going to double up on the Washington market, why not do the same with the Boston market? They are about the same size (Boston is smaller by 800,000 people) although I don't know where they rank on the O&D level.

Regarding the LH deal, on the LH site I saw the page about B6 and it said "Fly from New York, Boston, or Orlando to the Carribean!" and now it says they are connecting in MCO and JFK (but it didn't mention BOS- that's weird). I wonder what it will look like when it comes through.



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User currently offlineAlangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3039 times:



Quoting MMEPHX (Reply 9):
Interesting comments on the LH connection that they are looking at ways to link into the LH network. That could be an attractive service offering. Look forward to watching how that might develop.

If CO does decide that it wants to co operate with UA, and perhaps get involved in the Star Alliance, would B6 do anything for LH at JFK that CO cannot do for LH at EWR?


User currently offlineMMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2964 times:



Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 15):
If CO does decide that it wants to co operate with UA, and perhaps get involved in the Star Alliance, would B6 do anything for LH at JFK that CO cannot do for LH at EWR?

Good question. They could both just offer even more feed into LH, a convenient connection at 2 major NYC airports? All a bit strange the LH move on B6 with the current tie up with UA/US available and maybe CO in the future. LH hedging their bets on who might survive in the long term?

Is it also just coincidental that CO and B6 in the US try to offer something a little better than the other legacies (meals / TV for example) in the same way that LH are known for their good service? Whereas UA and US have the 'race to the bottom' mentality (US got there a long while ago)


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2918 times:



Quoting MMEPHX (Reply 16):
Is it also just coincidental that CO and B6 in the US try to offer something a little better than the other legacies (meals / TV for example) in the same way that LH are known for their good service? Whereas UA and US have the 'race to the bottom' mentality (US got there a long while ago)

Be careful, comments like that get you flamed. However, I am not a fan of United and I have never flown USAir. I don't know what will happen in regards to CO and Star, but B6 is an interline deal so it won't bother them much.

Two things from that interview were interesting: Not only will B6 feed LH flights, but LX flights as well. I wonder if AP will get involved at BOS somehow. Also, they said that B6 is not interested in joining an alliance. So there's your answer to the CO/US/UA/B6/LH question.

While the deal hasn't been finalized, that webpage was interesting. Why would they connect in MCO and not BOS? BOS has an extra FRA flight, a MUC flight, and an LX flight to ZRH, as well as more connections to other B6 destinations. Even though MCO will be a focus city, they aren't going to add much more than BOS does already.



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User currently offlineJaysan From India, joined Apr 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2768 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 14):
The way I saw it, you could fill a plane in PVD and MHT with customers in the suburbs where it is just as close if not closer to go out to those airports and it would involve moving a flight or two from BOS to those airports, and the flight removed could be replaced by a flight to a new destination. If you're going to double up on the Washington market, why not do the same with the Boston market? They are about the same size (Boston is smaller by 800,000 people) although I don't know where they rank on the O&D level.

I understand your point, its just my opinion that the price of oil will stop B6 from making such an investment also there is a huge difference in the Boston and Washington market... at DCA you can charge a fare premium not in BOS/PVD/MHT


User currently offlineGMUAirbusA320 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 243 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2473 times:



Quoting Rwex414 (Reply 11):
Why has JetBlue never gone to DTW?

They probably learned a valuable lesson with ATL. Those loads weren't that great when I worked for B6!


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2410 times:



Quoting Jaysan (Reply 18):
at DCA you can charge a fare premium not in BOS/PVD/MHT

Well, that will explain why Washington has three major airports (if you call DCA major, although it is much bigger than PVD and MHT are) and Boston has only one.

Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 10):
Is there anyway they would add flights to MSP?

Let's see what happens when DL/NW merge. I would love to see BOS-MSP, or at least JFK-MSP. But you have to look at some factors, like travel direction. Do more Minnesotans travel to New York and Boston more than Bostonians and New Yorkers travel to Minnesota? If BOS and JFK have something feeding those routes (LH, LX, EI, or a B6 connection) then it should work. I know AA tried LGA-MSP and failed, but AA isn't as big in New York as B6 and has no connections. That route was O&D and battling NW which has the feed at MSP.



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