MOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 5 Posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2364 times:
In part 3 of Ben Mutzabaugh's USA Today/Today in the Sky interview with the executives of Jetblue, they say how they like slots. I concur with their position, but I think its pretty interesting that an airline has sense enough to appreciate the necessity of slots at some airports. (They aren't needed in some places, and I see where the slot allocation process should be more market driven than regulatory, but no doubt slots are needed at some locations.)
RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2325 times:
They like the slots that were allotted to each airline based on schedule, meaning they now have a very valuable asset... they do NOT like slot auctions because the foreign carriers have the cash to compete and buy them, B6 does not.
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4022 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2075 times:
Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 1): They like the slots that were allotted to each airline based on schedule, meaning they now have a very valuable asset... they do NOT like slot auctions because the foreign carriers have the cash to compete and buy them, B6 does not.
In other words, they like slots where it favors them and dislike slots where it doesn't.
BRILLIANT!
MOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1952 times:
Quoting Richierich (Reply 2):
In other words, they like slots where it favors them and dislike slots where it doesn't.
BRILLIANT! mischievous
Naturally, that is an element of it. One must also remember that it really isn't fair to take someone else's slots and sell them to someone else. Especially when all you are doing is diversifying congestions, not lessening it. It would be smarter to have DOT/FAA led discussions (so that they were legal.) with all airlines present and figure out A) when the peak time for congestion is, B) what is the maximum number of operations that should reasonable occur during those periods, C) discuss it amongst them as to who could shift flights, who could eliminate flights, etc.
With the current anti-trust laws, the airlines can't get together to discuss the issue. I believe all airlines would really be willing to give and take a little. Like the execs said, congestion is driving pax away.
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7342 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1779 times:
Quoting MOBflyer (Thread starter): In part 3 of Ben Mutzabaugh's USA Today/Today in the Sky interview with the executives of Jetblue, they say how they like slots. I concur with their position, but I think its pretty interesting that an airline has sense enough to appreciate the necessity of slots at some airports. (They aren't needed in some places, and I see where the slot allocation process should be more market driven than regulatory, but no doubt slots are needed at some locations.)
Jetblue should value its JFK slot portfilio like BMI did its LHR slots. Those evening slots have to be worth many $$$. May be that why Lufthansa purchased 19% of JB.
ADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1247 times:
Jet Blue didn't really care for slots when they were trying to get started. JFK had restrictions in place from 3pm-10pm. They thought it was discriminatory to a small new upstart like them.
Jet Blue lobbied the govenor of NY and the Mayor of NYC to let a small new entrant into JFK. They promised job by locating their HDQ at JFK. (and they did) They got slot exemptions or additional slots were created or something so they could start operations in the evening hours.
The JFK slots eventually went away and then a few years later there is all this congestion.
LGA/DCA IIRC are the only airports left from the original slot programs. At one time ORD and ATL were also part of the program. ATL did ok but ORD had problems and they got the capacity controls back in a "voluntary" program.
moral of the story is that they should not have been taken away in the first place.
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10649 posts, RR: 100 Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1037 times:
Quoting Richierich (Reply 2):
In other words, they like slots where it favors them and dislike slots where it doesn't.
Well... ya... duh!
Quoting ADXMatt (Reply 6):
moral of the story is that they should not have been taken away in the first place.
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