Azcommute From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 16 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5979 times:
I know there are a couple regionals that have options on the Q-400 that UA could look at. L4 (Lynx) is running to GJT,ASE,DRO and doing very well and burning alot less then the old DH8-2's of Mesa, and hold 74 PAX instead of 37.
KLASM83 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 584 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5938 times:
I always thought Q400's would be a great idea with DEN. More power to United if they want to run multiple frequencies in to the nearby mountain stations (ASE had some 25-30 flights a day, for example), but to do it with with gas guzzling CR7's on 125 mile hops can't really help the bottom line, not matter how much it they make the pax pay. The Q400 is a more capable plane in and out of the mountains as Lynx is proving right now. I do hope it happens.
Imapilotaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5824 times:
This is correct. As long as 2 years ago, UA had approached one of their current operators regarding a small "test run" of 5 aircraft out of Denver, with substantial options for more if UA liked the deal. This was back when Q400s were next to impossible to obtain close in, and was not pursued because of that.
AS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5818 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5660 times:
There is some rumor to Colgan Air picking up some flying for United out west on another website, so the addition of United looking at DH4 would seem to make sense. Colgan already does some regional flying for UA from IAD, so United would not have to bring in another vendor to fly this type.
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Imapilotaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5471 times:
Quoting AS739X (Reply 11): There is some rumor to Colgan Air picking up some flying for United out west
Actually that is likely UA talking with them regarding a backstop if Mesa dies for 8-10 aircraft out of DEN. They have been contacting any and all regional operators that operate 30+ seat turboprop aircraft that could make it work. They would prefer the DH8-200s, but are willing to have any type of aircraft at short notice.
TheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1110 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5222 times:
I'm betting Lynx has already bid on any RFP, if there is one out there. It won't be any easier for Colgan to get the approvals to fly in the mountains. So other than the competitive issues, they would be the obvious choice.
Quoting Rampart (Reply 17): OK, I'll bite too. Leave it to UA to attempt to catch up to another airline that has already been innovative in their market.
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FLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 390 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5012 times:
There is a big "IF" here concerning United. That is, unless they plan on paying Bombardier with IOU's, they have little or no available cash, or credit available to fund a new fleet of, well - anything......
They will need every penny of their current cash flow to ward off a return to bankruptcy. Based on recent actions, it looks like United is caught up in the long-standing "bad times" strategy of layoffs, route cuts and parking planes.