And the new Hyperion Oil Refinery that is going to be built 50 Miles south of Sioux Falls. Hyperion will add thousands of new jobs at their oil refinery, and the Hyperion corporate office is in Dallas. The Airport in Sioux Falls has been talking with American about this. http://www.hyperionec.com/?gclid=COfuvcH325MCFRERQQodREmaYg
So my question is, with all this going on, could FSD potentially be in the running for American service or another airlines service?
Joeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 876 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2257 times:
Quoting Airbusaddict (Thread starter): And the new Hyperion Oil Refinery that is going to be built 50 Miles south of Sioux Falls. Hyperion will add thousands of new jobs at their oil refinery, and the Hyperion corporate office is in Dallas. The Airport in Sioux Falls has been talking with American about this.
There is a good chance this traffic will go to OMA. It's less then a 2 hour drive to Eppley Airfield from the job site and it has relatively cheap fares to DFW at 5 MD-80's per day.
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2603 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2241 times:
Quoting Airbusaddict (Thread starter): So my question is, with all this going on, could FSD potentially be in the running for American service or another airlines service?
Did you REALLY just ask that? Have you seen the news lately? Look at the cuts that are happening. AA is cutting somewhere around 12%; UA about the same. FSD is lucky to have what it has, and hope that you can keep all of it.
Airbusaddict From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 412 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2234 times:
Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 2): Quoting Airbusaddict (Thread starter):
So my question is, with all this going on, could FSD potentially be in the running for American service or another airlines service?
Did you REALLY just ask that? Have you seen the news lately? Look at the cuts that are happening. AA is cutting somewhere around 12%; UA about the same. FSD is lucky to have what it has, and hope that you can keep all of it.
For 800,000 Passengers a year, and only 20 Flights a day, we need to stop losing people to MSP and OMA.
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2603 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2218 times:
Quoting Airbusaddict (Reply 3): For 800,000 Passengers a year, and only 20 Flights a day, we need to stop losing people to MSP and OMA.
Maybe when the economy turns around and airlines can make a profit - maybe. But just because you view FSD as underserved doesn't mean it's all the sudden going to get more air service, especially when the largest US airlines are cutting over 10% of their capacity, mostly domestic. It's just not going to happen. What FSD officials need to do is focus on keeping what they have, and not on leaking traffic to MSP and OMA.
Airbusaddict From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 412 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2150 times:
Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 4): Quoting Airbusaddict (Reply 3):
For 800,000 Passengers a year, and only 20 Flights a day, we need to stop losing people to MSP and OMA.
Maybe when the economy turns around and airlines can make a profit - maybe. But just because you view FSD as underserved doesn't mean it's all the sudden going to get more air service, especially when the largest US airlines are cutting over 10% of their capacity, mostly domestic. It's just not going to happen. What FSD officials need to do is focus on keeping what they have, and not on leaking traffic to MSP and OMA.
I definately agree. Once the economy and gas is back down, hopefully we will see something.
MOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2129 times:
Contrary to the apparent views of others on this thread, I think its quite possible. Non-LCC smaller markets are airlines' only reliable source of pricing power. Hence why you see US expanding to GPT and VPS, while still on course for a domestic contraction this year.
The same could be said for MOB and potential future UA service. We are looking at an influx of 15,000 jobs by 2010 largely because of the ThyssenKrup Steel Mill (it will be the largest in the nation, and the German company's flagship international facility) and the Northrop Grumman and Airbus/EADS Aircraft Assembly line (which will make MOB the third place in the world where major aircraft are assembled) that will assemble A330 aircraft. Airbus has committed to the KC45 tanker and the A330F in MOB, and is considering moving the entire A330 line including passenger to MOB to take advantage of the weak dollar. These two companies combined will employ about 6,000. The other jobs are expected to come in the form of suppliers that locate in the immediate region.
On a lesser scale, the Alabama Motorsports Park (a Dale Earnheart, Jr. Speedway) will be opening about the same time as those projects come online and is expected to host major NASCAR events, similar to Talladega and DAB. Also, the Alabama Cruise Terminal is anticipating Carnival replacing the cruise ship here with a larger one, and we are soliciting a second line to cruise from the facility.
This is all underscored by Forbes ranking MOB as having the fastest growing Gross Metropolitan Product in the forecast period. Our 34.1% was just slightly above #2's Austin at 33.5%
The only major carrier we don't have is United. Here's hoping the economically defiant (relative to the rest of the country) MOB and FSD get UA and AA, respectively!
Airbusaddict From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 412 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1996 times:
Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 6): Contrary to the apparent views of others on this thread, I think its quite possible. Non-LCC smaller markets are airlines' only reliable source of pricing power. Hence why you see US expanding to GPT and VPS, while still on course for a domestic contraction this year.
The same could be said for MOB and potential future UA service. We are looking at an influx of 15,000 jobs by 2010 largely because of the ThyssenKrup Steel Mill (it will be the largest in the nation, and the German company's flagship international facility) and the Northrop Grumman and Airbus/EADS Aircraft Assembly line (which will make MOB the third place in the world where major aircraft are assembled) that will assemble A330 aircraft. Airbus has committed to the KC45 tanker and the A330F in MOB, and is considering moving the entire A330 line including passenger to MOB to take advantage of the weak dollar. These two companies combined will employ about 6,000. The other jobs are expected to come in the form of suppliers that locate in the immediate region.
On a lesser scale, the Alabama Motorsports Park (a Dale Earnheart, Jr. Speedway) will be opening about the same time as those projects come online and is expected to host major NASCAR events, similar to Talladega and DAB. Also, the Alabama Cruise Terminal is anticipating Carnival replacing the cruise ship here with a larger one, and we are soliciting a second line to cruise from the facility.
This is all underscored by Forbes ranking MOB as having the fastest growing Gross Metropolitan Product in the forecast period. Our 34.1% was just slightly above #2's Austin at 33.5%
The only major carrier we don't have is United. Here's hoping the economically defiant (relative to the rest of the country) MOB and FSD get UA and AA, respectively!
Hopefully you guys get UA atleast to DEN or ORD.
Right now FSD has 4x Daily to Denver on UA. Two flights on Mainline, two flights on regional. And we have 5x Daily to Chicago on Regional. I'm really missing the STL-FSD on AA. Maybe if they dont keep mainline in FSD, Frontier will add service now that SUX is gone and UA can't replace the 737 flights with the 320's.
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