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User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2208 times:

The deadline for applications is tomorrow, June 6, 2008.

This docket should contain the proposals. At the time of this post, there are none to be found in the docket. Is the DOT waiting until the deadline to show the proposals, or has no one actually submitted theirs yet?

I know of these communities that we might/should find applications for:
Port St. Lucie, FL
Pascagoula, MS
Bremerton, WA
Alpine, TX
Salina, KS
Witchita Falls, TX

Also interesting is Mike Boyd's Summary of the programs chages from years past is very interesting.

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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

Waste of money, if you ask me -- is this program designed to assist small communities in attracting additional air carriers?

In the era of $125 oil, you're not going to see airlines lining up to fly short routes to small cities.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2048 times:



Quoting Ssides (Reply 1):

The SCASD program has had its share of successes and failures. Some of the grants are for nothing more than marketing existing service to increase boardings. (MKL, among others) Others are measures that are designed to KEEP existing carriers from leaving an airport. (MOB, among others). Some are to serve specific air service deficiency (JAN-EWR). Some are incredibly successful (like MOB - station services kept US and was able to attract AA), others are complete flops.

And airlines would actually be lining faster than you can fathom IF and ONLY IF you can convince them that they have sustainable and profitable route. "In this era of $125 oil" airlines will be chasing opportunities for pricing power. The place that these occur is our smaller and mid-size cities.


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5821 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Based on news report I know we should see

**San Luis Obispo, CA (SBP) for SBP-SMF
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/breakingnews/story/376244.html

**Sioux City (SUX) for support of a SUX-DEN route by UA to replace Frontier
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/arti...3d89765ebd0d2686257460000bcd7a.txt

**Modesto, CA (MOD) for another carrier to replace Skywest on MOD-LAX
http://www.modbee.com/opinion/story/315856.html



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1973 times:

Midland, TX will be applying as well.
http://www.mywesttexas.com/articles/...ies/mdcairportpartnership_0530.txt


User currently offlineYNGguins From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 511 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

When oil was below $100 it may have worked, now it's a failure. I am all for ending this program in order to get the idiots in Congress to drill Domestically!!!!!!


I am PROUD to live in the greatest country on earth: The United States of America!
User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

So far, PMD and PGD have applied. PMD seems to be having technical difficulties... PDG wants 2x CMH and 1x BOS-area service.

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli..._dmfFrameId=FdmsPubMain_content_0#


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1894 times:



Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 6):
PDG wants 2x CMH

Sorry, Skybus went out of business. Nobody else in their right mind would fly a P2P spoke-to-spoke like that.


User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1843 times:



Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 7):
Sorry, Skybus went out of business. Nobody else in their right mind would fly a P2P spoke-to-spoke like that.

You mean like DL used to run CMH-RSW? That would never happen. Thats why it ran for years.


User currently offlineAlaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1063 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1799 times:



Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 3):
Modesto, CA (MOD) for another carrier to replace Skywest on MOD-LAX



Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 3):
**San Luis Obispo, CA (SBP) for SBP-SMF

Horizon could/might jump on those, theres been talk of Modesto for the last year


User currently offlineXpfg From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 633 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1772 times:



Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 9):
Horizon could/might jump on those, theres been talk of Modesto for the last year

Even after OO came into the market MOD has still been discussed? I heard of it before OO came in, but nothing further after...


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1756 times:



Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 4):
Midland, TX will be applying as well.

Again, what a waste. MAF has excellent air service for the size of market it is, and with the oil industry booming, the local government is flush with cash. But federal taxpayers footing the bill to attract service to an airport that is already above-average?

I know I should be used to it, but it's still irritating.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5821 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1716 times:



Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 9):
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 3):
Modesto, CA (MOD) for another carrier to replace Skywest on MOD-LAX

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 3):
**San Luis Obispo, CA (SBP) for SBP-SMF

Horizon could/might jump on those, theres been talk of Modesto for the last year

Skywest had very low load factors on the Brasilias on MOD-LAX, something in the neighborhood of 52%. They operated 3X day so that was only about 45-50 daily passengers. QX now has recent data to ponder to figure out if they could make it work and how they would increase the passengers.

SBP-SMF seems like it might be too small for the Qs.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5821 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

Here some more application that will show up.

Redding, CA (RDD) wants $500,000 to support new eastbound service. The primary goal is DLConn to SLC but they would also talk to others such as DEN carriers.
http://www.redding.com/news/2008/jun...edding-requests-help-with-flights/

Missoula wants $500,000 to support service.



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