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Future Of DL/NW If Oil Is Above 200.00  
User currently offlineAircanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

Hello all


I was wondering do you think DL/NW will survive if oil continues to rise even at 200.00 a barrel? DL seems to be opening up new routes so fast and some closing or suspending routes
DL/NW needs to combine their senority lists. They need to dispose of some older a/c.
They will have to trim their staff and closing some bases. What do you think? I don't think they will survive. They may file for bankruptcy again or go through liquidation.

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User currently offlineBinMonster From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

what will AA, B6, CO, UA, US, or any US carrier do

User currently offlineAcidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2855 times:
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In reality, what will anybody at all do at $200 oil?


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User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2832 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

I think that most of your arguments are red herrings. The seniority list integration, for example, is totally unrelated to the price of oil.

If you have any analysis to better explain your conclusion, we'd all love to see it.


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4753 posts, RR: 45
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2758 times:



Quoting PGNCS (Reply 3):
If you have any analysis to better explain your conclusion, we'd all love to see it.

There is no analysis. A simple troll thru his posts will reveal his analysis toward conclusion - a violent disdain for anything Delta.



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User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2832 posts, RR: 45
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2744 times:



Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 4):
Quoting PGNCS (Reply 3):
If you have any analysis to better explain your conclusion, we'd all love to see it.

There is no analysis. A simple troll thru his posts will reveal his analysis toward conclusion - a violent disdain for anything Delta.

Thanks; I suspected as much but it wasn't actually worth my time to investigate.


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2701 times:



Quoting Aircanada014 (Thread starter):
I don't think they will survive.

No, that's what you're hoping for. You know well that DL will survive. DL themselves are even helping to relieve industry stress by consolidating airlines, thus increasing chances for survival not only for them, but all US carriers.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4686 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

Remember DL and NW will have alot of excess baggage they can dump... MEM and CVG

Both were planned to be kept in the announced merger environment, but if things got worse which they have) we could see one or both cut.

My guess is if the merger goes through and things have not improved we will see a MASSIVE 50 seat RJ dump possibly in the 75-100 range.



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User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

What does this have to do with oil at $200? I think once oil hits that high it's not just DL/NW merger that needs to be worried, it's anything that uses oil. To me a DL/NW merged seems the same as DL making cuts and NW making cuts, but now making those cuts as one airline. Basically a merged DL/NW will just need to make more cuts than a single airline like CO because it is essentially two airlines (larger). Once oil gets that high there will probably be even more airlines calling for alternative fuels, much like Air New Zealand is planning on running one of it's 747s engines on some sort of bio fuel (can't remember what kind) and we will start to see some serious work on alternative fuels. While that may take some time... high oil prices (even though they are already amazingly high now) will expedite this, much like it is doing in the automobile sector. Which begs the question, if enough cars start switching to alternative fuels will the price of oil go down enough that airlines can use regular fuel while cars use alternatives?

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