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Who Was Flying From Guyana To The MIA In '80  
User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10445 times:

My wife and her parents and brothers emmigrated from Guyana in 1980 during Burhnam's regime. We are just trying to figure out what kind of aircraft they flew out on to MIA. We looked up older pictures and saw a TU154 from Guyana Airways in MIA and just wondering.


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User currently offlineUsafdo From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10440 times:

I'd guess and say BWIA with a 707 connection somewhere. Possibly Pan Am. I'm from MIA and don't rever recall seeing a TU 154 there.. probably a charter, or some special type of flight.

User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10419 times:

What she can remember they flew direct from Georgetown to MIA. Had to stay there all night before meeting up with the rest of the family in NY. That second leg to NY was a regular American carrier flight. I'm sure Pan-Am did some flights there for a "minute" as well as Gulf Air and North American Airlines. I just know it's not an easy place to get in and out of.


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User currently offlineUSAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10414 times:

From what I can remember Gulf Air is an airline in the middle east. And North American Airlines is a new airline. I don't believe Gulf Air flew North American/Carribbean routes. And I don't think North American Airlines existed then.

Maybe ALM Anitllean airlines flew PAX to MIA via Aruba or Curacao.


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10408 times:

I found pix of a Guyana Airways TU154 B2 with a tail number of YR-TPJ in MIA back in '85, so that's a bit late. North American did fly later than my wife and her family flew out of there. There is a picture of a Gulf Air 737 on this web site. But the Gulf Air here is referring to the Gulf of Mexico.

I wish I could figure out how to link pictures onto a thread.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8816 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10398 times:
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Guyana Airways used to offer flights to MIA; along with Surinam (in conjunction with GEO). However, most Guyanese connect on BW at POS; which is also the National Flag Carrier of Guyana.

User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8816 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10387 times:
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Quoting Xtoler (Reply 2):
I'm sure Pan-Am did some flights there for a "minute"

The Pan Am Flying Boats were a regular site in Guyana since the 1930's! Pan Am left Guyana in the early 80's.

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User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10381 times:

Last time my Father-in-Law went he wound up flying ATL-JFK-somehow GEO. When family comes up they have to fly to Canada or NY, but love the drive down to ATL. It seems like there is family all along the East coast. At least we get a bottle of XM rum!


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8816 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10373 times:
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Two charter operators, (Travelspan and Constellation) used to fly GEO-JFK nonstop, GEO-POS-JFK and also GEO-POS-FLL; however, these two operators recently folded. DL now flies JFK-GEO nonstop.

User currently offlineBeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10364 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 8):
these two operators recently folded.

They are still in exist but they use schedule carriers to carry their pax plus they might work together again when north american starts flying again to POS and GEO


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8816 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10365 times:
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Quoting Beeweel15 (Reply 9):

Are they flying this summer season to POS and GEO?


User currently offlineAirFranceJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 10224 times:

Back in the 80's, Guyana Airways flew into MIA with an assortment of TU-154's:


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And Boeing 707's.


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Guyana Airways also wet leased several other carriers to service the route including Gulf Air (as in Gulf of Mexico.....not Persian Gulf) & Arrow Air.


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ALM & BWIA also offered MD-80 service to MIA via Curacao & Port of Spain.


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 10193 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 6):
The Pan Am Flying Boats were a regular site in Guyana since the 1930's! Pan Am left Guyana in the early 80's.

1930's British Guyana, at least until '66 or '68? My mother-in-law is real good about giving me history lessons about Guyana and every now and again I read the Stabroek News online so I can follow what she tells me. I forgot about Pan Am, my wife and her uncle (who still lives in GEO and works at GEO with customs) told me about Pan Am flying in and out at the time. I don't speak to her uncle too much, even though he calls and visits the States a couple of times a year, but the last thing he wants to talk about it is his job, which from the little I heard, I don't really want to know.

So DL really is flying into there now. Cool. Just too bad they can't do it from ATL. It would make things a lot easier on my wife's family, but there are a few left living in NY.

Thanks for all of your info and pix.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27000 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 10169 times:



Quoting Xtoler (Reply 12):
1930's British Guyana, at least until '66 or '68? My mother-in-law is real good about giving me history lessons about Guyana and every now and again I read the Stabroek News online so I can follow what she tells me.

Hi great to see you read the Stabroek news !! I also do. My Dad's family are from Guyana and I have been twice. Would love to go back. Alot of the older generation have sadly passed away now but they used to tell me stories of how things were back in the days before Burnham raped the country !! He came to power in 1964.

When I went to Guyana first I got a paper ticket which had a photo of a GY TU-154 on it. I flew on a Guyana Airways B757 from JFK-GEO and the return route was GEO-CUR-JFK. Was a great trip and flights.


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10152 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
Hi great to see you read the Stabroek news !! I also do. My Dad's family are from Guyana and I have been twice. Would love to go back. Alot of the older generation have sadly passed away now but they used to tell me stories of how things were back in the days before Burnham raped the country !! He came to power in 1964.

When I went to Guyana first I got a paper ticket which had a photo of a GY TU-154 on it. I flew on a Guyana Airways B757 from JFK-GEO and the return route was GEO-CUR-JFK. Was a great trip and flights.

I forgot Guyana Airways had B757's. There was another somewhat recent airline, didn't last long and can't remember the name, but I think they flew A300's!

Stabroek News has better writing than the Richmond (Virginia) Times-Dispatch. And now that we live in Aurora, Colorado, it's even less biased than either the Rocky Mountain Times and Denver Post. Good read and something I can talk to my Mom-in-law about. Funny you mention Burnham, I get the feeling no one really like that guy. Now it seems the big thing is Venezuala trying to steal resources from the interior. I do have to ask you though, my wife's maiden name is Allen. My mother-in-law's maiden name is Brathwaite. Somewhere in the family is Schultze. Who know's you may have family ties, at least by marriage. Next year there is supposed to be a big family reunion in the ATL, under the Schultze name but there will be plenty of Allens, Brathwaite's, Padmores, and a Clarke or two. And of course a Toler, or with my wife Allen-Toler. It's going to be a lot of fun and a lot of partying.

I'd still love to go to Guyana, but I'm thinking before that happens we'll be going back to my hometown of Huntsville, AL before then and my wife would feel safer.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8816 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10138 times:
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Quoting Xtoler (Reply 12):
So DL really is flying into there now.

Yes, DL is flying JFK-GEO 5x weekly; and BW flies MIA-POS-GEO and JFK-POS-GEO daily.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27000 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10126 times:



Quoting Xtoler (Reply 14):
I forgot Guyana Airways had B757's. There was another somewhat recent airline, didn't last long and can't remember the name, but I think they flew A300's!

Yes it was called Guyana Air 2000 !! From the ashes of Guyana Airways and did not last long lol... The came a private enterprise called ''Universal Airlines'' set up by two Guyanese Indian ladies. Rumor had it they made their own curry and roti for the onboard meals LOL....

Its a shame Guyana Airways went down. It would have been nice to have a flag carrier other than the BWIA arrangement. In Guyana sometimes its one step forward and then 2 steps back. Hopefully things will be better in time. They have improved a bit. The Venezuela issue is a pain and Guyana could really use the natural resourses being denied it by certain powers.

Quoting Xtoler (Reply 14):
Who know's you may have family ties, at least by marriage.

Guessing by the names your Wife is of African decent?? My lot are of Indian decent. Shipped over from India by the British. When I landed in Georgetown and the imigration officer looked at my passport and surname he couldnt figure out how I was Meditterenean looking with an Indian Guyanese name LOL..

The Guyanese are a great people and I'm very proud to have that heritage as part of my make up. Not to mention all the good food like Black cake,curry and roti LOL.....

This is a model I got when I flew on Guyana Airways.... still has pride of place on my shelf.

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User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10122 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 15):
Yes, DL is flying JFK-GEO 5x weekly; and BW flies MIA-POS-GEO and JFK-POS-GEO daily.

Goes to show you I haven't been flying lately. I thought BW went bankrupt and closed up shop. Glad to see them still flying.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8816 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10117 times:
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Quoting Xtoler (Reply 17):

BW became Caribbean Airlines (and retains the same IATA code BW), in January 2007 as BWIA's replacement. They have been granted National Flag Carrier status by the Guyanese Gov't and also offers direct flights from GEO to BGI.


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10099 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
Rumor had it they made their own curry and roti for the onboard meals LOL....

Oh, not curry and roTI. I can't wait to show my wife what you just said! She's going lose it. And Indian on top of that! Ya know, dahl goes well with roti. That's like where I'm from, you "cain't" do eggs without grits. Ever have a souse soup? My mother-in-law got me hooked. Ox tail, cucumbers, peppers, onions, a little garlic, and some water, and maybe a pigs foot for two hours in a pressure cooker... Ahh, heaven in a bowl. After you have that and go out clubbin', come home to cook up rice just to soak up the rest of the alcohol in the blood stream. Good times, but that was before my wife and I finally had kids.

Spot on, dude, she is of African origins, but there was Dutch in there, as well as Indians from the interior, and Indian's from Asia. She's of the "darker persuasion", just don't call her or any of her family African-American. My father-in-law is real dark "black for no reason", my mother-in-law is pretty dark but she's from further down on the Demerara River. I thought I was backwoods from Huntsville, AL, damn my cousin lives in Paint Rock, but at least you can get there by road and not by river.

My wife's "Granny" makes the black cake anytime someone gets married or Christmas. That's a heavy cake, but it's sooooo good! I have to show my wife this thread, she's so going to trip out!



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User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10089 times:

All right, my wife is now settling down and I'm telling her about this thread. She's wondering if you're black. Not that it really matters, she's just wondering how and Irish boy wound up there.


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