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S7 737.5's In England  
User currently offlinePanair From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 28 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5373 times:
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Why are these S7 737's abandoned in England?

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untit...hoto_nr=1&prev_id=&next_id=1362113

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User currently offlineValleyspotter From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5356 times:

All returned to lessor at the end of their lease and stored awaiting a new opperator.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26975 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5037 times:

I was wondering that myself. Sure looks odd.

User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4994 times:

S7 got enough A319 meanwhile?

User currently offlineEmbajador3 From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4701 times:

What a waste of money... to paint them entirely with S7's livery, only to be operated for a few years... . I don't suggest anything like the exCO 733s that Buzz/Ryanair used to operate, but i'm sure they could find a 'nice' hybrid... .


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User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4596 times:

The aircraft were given major overhauls and C of A renewals when the leases were taken up. The ex United aircraft were stripped of paint during the overhauls so it was as cheap to apply the livery as it was to do anything else.

Also the rebranding of Sibr as S7 co-incided with the introduction of the 737so the whole package -Western aircraft, new scheme, new name all came together.

The leases were all relatively short term as fillers before the Airbus deliveries.
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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4468 times:

The liveries look pretty darn ugly! My goodness!


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User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4430 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 6):

The livery stands out which means its going to do the job of getting people to notice which airline it belongs to, & with a different name like S7 it's going to stick in more peoples memory! I quite like it for daring to be different!....& for once its a livery thats not using white as its base colour!  Wink

Dave(SAAB900)


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2161 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4315 times:

Are the aircraft in good shape? Maybe someone will scoop them up?

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4280 times:



Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 7):

That is what every other airline is doing as well, namely AF!  duck 

My point was: green wings and horizontal stabilizer?!  vomit 



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8539 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4253 times:
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Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 6):
The liveries look pretty darn ugly! My goodness!

- I think it look's great, really stands out, makes a change from all this euro white.

M



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6381 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4099 times:



Quoting AF022 (Reply 8):
Are the aircraft in good shape? Maybe someone will scoop them up?

Unfortunately, I don't think a 735 will win a narrowbody CASM contest any time soon...733 or 734s might be more desirable due to the lower CASM



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User currently offlineDelta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

I think the lessor of these planes choosed the wrong timing for an end of lease.
737 prices must be on a sharply declining level. I think these planes will be stored for quite some time. Only chance may be some other russian carrier will take them up.



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User currently offlineLasham From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 226 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4041 times:
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Quoting AF022 (Reply 8):
Are the aircraft in good shape? Maybe someone will scoop them up?

Sure they are well looked after and most have found new homes and will depart Lasham soon.

Tony



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User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3998 times:



Quoting Delta777Jet (Reply 12):
I think the lessor of these planes choosed the wrong timing for an end of lease.
737 prices must be on a sharply declining level. I think these planes will be stored for quite some time. Only chance may be some other russian carrier will take them up.

Where do you get that idea from? The leases were signed over 3 years ago and the length of lease was determined by the needs of the lessee, not the lessor.


User currently offlineDelta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3972 times:

PhilB: It was just my estimates, knowing that there will be some dozens of other 737 to choose from. Of course the timing of lease end is a coincendence and could not be forseen by lessee or lessor, its just the way it is. I just wanted to say that for the lessor a 2-year lease would have been more favourable and the aircrafts easier to place with a new carrier.


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User currently offlineCsturdiv From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 1468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3942 times:



Quoting KELPkid (Reply 11):
Unfortunately, I don't think a 735 will win a narrowbody CASM contest any time soon...733 or 734s might be more desirable due to the lower CASM

Isn't Aeroflot looking for some B735s to hold them over until they get their SSJ-100s? Aren't they looking at taking some from Aeroflot Nord or Aeroflot-Don?



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User currently offlineConcentriq From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3643 times:

I heard that S7 had all their aircraft painted someplace in England.. Maybe tis what this is a picture of?


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User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2589 times:



Quoting Concentriq (Reply 17):
I heard that S7 had all their aircraft painted someplace in England.. Maybe tis what this is a picture of?

The picture is of the 737 RETURNED OFF LEASE as the thread makes quite clear.

Of the six aircraft shown, BSU, BSV, BSW and BSX were all delivered to Shannon in IRELAND in United colours, were stored until they could undergo major maintenance and were then painted at Shannon, airtested and delivered.


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

I wonder if there's going to be much of a market for planes like these for frieghter conversion - I'm guessing some but that there will be far more planes than customers so the prices will be somewhat low!

User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

735 is a very small freighter...

User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2031 times:

The 737-500 is not suited to freighter conversion as the fore fuselage is too short to permit a standard cargo door to be installed. I would expect the planes not taken up by other airlines to be stored for a while but possibly be taken by other airlines.

S7 sure is expanding rapidly though.

TrinToCan.



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2008 times:
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Quoting Csturdiv (Reply 16):
Isn't Aeroflot looking for some B735s to hold them over until they get their SSJ-100s? Aren't they looking at taking some from Aeroflot Nord or Aeroflot-Don?

Hi there,

according with www.ch-aviation.ch web site, airframes BSQ, BSV, BSW, BSX, BTG and BTI will join in few weeks the Aeroflot-Don fleet.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineKogge From Germany, joined Nov 2007, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1931 times:



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 22):
according with www.ch-aviation.ch web site, airframes BSQ, BSV, BSW, BSX, BTG and BTI will join in few weeks the Aeroflot-Don fleet.

Is there any truth in it ? That web-site attributes every available 737-300 or 500 to Aeroflot... They also list all Kitty Hawk 733F for Aeroflot Cargo... which is not true.
Previously they saw every available used 737NG with Air Berlin, and that never materialized...
And a lot of 733 for Skyexpress.ru, which we have seen on that site, ended up somewhere else... and so on... itd



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1787 times:
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Quoting Kogge (Reply 23):
Is there any truth in it ? That web-site attributes every available 737-300 or 500 to Aeroflot... They also list all Kitty Hawk 733F for Aeroflot Cargo... which is not true.
Previously they saw every available used 737NG with Air Berlin, and that never materialized...
And a lot of 733 for Skyexpress.ru, which we have seen on that site, ended up somewhere else... and so on... itd

Don't know. I have this web site as a feasible font of information. They attributed to Iberia a pair of Airbus A330-300 from Garuda that never came to Spain.

Regards,

Gerard



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