Valleyspotter From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 26 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4695 times:
All returned to lessor at the end of their lease and stored awaiting a new opperator.
Embajador3 From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4040 times:
What a waste of money... to paint them entirely with S7's livery, only to be operated for a few years... . I don't suggest anything like the exCO 733s that Buzz/Ryanair used to operate, but i'm sure they could find a 'nice' hybrid... .
Philb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3935 times:
The aircraft were given major overhauls and C of A renewals when the leases were taken up. The ex United aircraft were stripped of paint during the overhauls so it was as cheap to apply the livery as it was to do anything else.
Also the rebranding of Sibr as S7 co-incided with the introduction of the 737so the whole package -Western aircraft, new scheme, new name all came together.
The leases were all relatively short term as fillers before the Airbus deliveries.
VP-BSV on its first test flight at Shannon in 2005 after major overhaul and respray
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3807 times:
The liveries look pretty darn ugly! My goodness!
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The livery stands out which means its going to do the job of getting people to notice which airline it belongs to, & with a different name like S7 it's going to stick in more peoples memory! I quite like it for daring to be different!....& for once its a livery thats not using white as its base colour!
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3619 times:
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8263 posts, RR: 56 Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3592 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 6): The liveries look pretty darn ugly! My goodness!
- I think it look's great, really stands out, makes a change from all this euro white.
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5932 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3438 times:
Quoting AF022 (Reply 8): Are the aircraft in good shape? Maybe someone will scoop them up?
Unfortunately, I don't think a 735 will win a narrowbody CASM contest any time soon...733 or 734s might be more desirable due to the lower CASM
Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
Delta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1131 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3380 times:
I think the lessor of these planes choosed the wrong timing for an end of lease.
737 prices must be on a sharply declining level. I think these planes will be stored for quite some time. Only chance may be some other russian carrier will take them up.
Philb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 14 Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3337 times:
Quoting Delta777Jet (Reply 12): I think the lessor of these planes choosed the wrong timing for an end of lease.
737 prices must be on a sharply declining level. I think these planes will be stored for quite some time. Only chance may be some other russian carrier will take them up.
Where do you get that idea from? The leases were signed over 3 years ago and the length of lease was determined by the needs of the lessee, not the lessor.
Delta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1131 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3311 times:
PhilB: It was just my estimates, knowing that there will be some dozens of other 737 to choose from. Of course the timing of lease end is a coincendence and could not be forseen by lessee or lessor, its just the way it is. I just wanted to say that for the lessor a 2-year lease would have been more favourable and the aircrafts easier to place with a new carrier.
Csturdiv From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1351 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3281 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 11): Unfortunately, I don't think a 735 will win a narrowbody CASM contest any time soon...733 or 734s might be more desirable due to the lower CASM
Isn't Aeroflot looking for some B735s to hold them over until they get their SSJ-100s? Aren't they looking at taking some from Aeroflot Nord or Aeroflot-Don?
Concentriq From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 368 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2982 times:
I heard that S7 had all their aircraft painted someplace in England.. Maybe tis what this is a picture of?
Philb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 14 Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1928 times:
Quoting Concentriq (Reply 17): I heard that S7 had all their aircraft painted someplace in England.. Maybe tis what this is a picture of?
The picture is of the 737 RETURNED OFF LEASE as the thread makes quite clear.
Of the six aircraft shown, BSU, BSV, BSW and BSX were all delivered to Shannon in IRELAND in United colours, were stored until they could undergo major maintenance and were then painted at Shannon, airtested and delivered.
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3254 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1900 times:
I wonder if there's going to be much of a market for planes like these for frieghter conversion - I'm guessing some but that there will be far more planes than customers so the prices will be somewhat low!
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3191 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1370 times:
The 737-500 is not suited to freighter conversion as the fore fuselage is too short to permit a standard cargo door to be installed. I would expect the planes not taken up by other airlines to be stored for a while but possibly be taken by other airlines.
RAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 7 Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1347 times:
Quoting Csturdiv (Reply 16): Isn't Aeroflot looking for some B735s to hold them over until they get their SSJ-100s? Aren't they looking at taking some from Aeroflot Nord or Aeroflot-Don?
Hi there,
according with www.ch-aviation.ch web site, airframes BSQ, BSV, BSW, BSX, BTG and BTI will join in few weeks the Aeroflot-Don fleet.
Regards,
Gerard
El dia que los gilipollas vuelen, no podremos ver la luz del sol!
Kogge From Germany, joined Nov 2007, 66 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1270 times:
Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 22): according with www.ch-aviation.ch web site, airframes BSQ, BSV, BSW, BSX, BTG and BTI will join in few weeks the Aeroflot-Don fleet.
Is there any truth in it ? That web-site attributes every available 737-300 or 500 to Aeroflot... They also list all Kitty Hawk 733F for Aeroflot Cargo... which is not true.
Previously they saw every available used 737NG with Air Berlin, and that never materialized...
And a lot of 733 for Skyexpress.ru, which we have seen on that site, ended up somewhere else... and so on... itd
RAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1126 times:
Quoting Kogge (Reply 23): Is there any truth in it ? That web-site attributes every available 737-300 or 500 to Aeroflot... They also list all Kitty Hawk 733F for Aeroflot Cargo... which is not true.
Previously they saw every available used 737NG with Air Berlin, and that never materialized...
And a lot of 733 for Skyexpress.ru, which we have seen on that site, ended up somewhere else... and so on... itd
Don't know. I have this web site as a feasible font of information. They attributed to Iberia a pair of Airbus A330-300 from Garuda that never came to Spain.
Regards,
Gerard
El dia que los gilipollas vuelen, no podremos ver la luz del sol!