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User currently offlineDispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12989 times:

This is a portion of an email I got from Priceline, for some airfares out of Chicago.

Big version: Width: 476 Height: 530 File size: 52kb


Southbend is, at most, a 20 minute flight from Chicago. If anyone pays that walkup fare from Chicago to South Bend, they have a LOT more money than brains.


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User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12892 times:

This sort of question comes up here on a regular basis. Flights like this are intended primarily for people connecting through Chicago, not originating in it. For example, LHR-Chicago-South Bend. I can guarantee that if you looked at the fares on a route like that, they would not be $838 more than the LHR-Chicago flight.

In addition there are always going to be business travelers that absolutely need to take a Chicago-South Bend flight, and therefore the flights can be priced as above to capture this market.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12725 times:



Quoting Star_world (Reply 1):
In addition there are always going to be business travelers that absolutely need to take a Chicago-South Bend flight, and therefore the flights can be priced as above to capture this market.

Same is true with ATL-MCN (Macon, GA) which is a short hop as well. $583 advance purchase, $740 walk up.

Looking at those fares, it might be cheaper to call up an air taxi service.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12650 times:

This is basicly what I deal with every week when I travel between DTW and LEX or CVG. I (my client) pays nearly $1,100.00 now for these flights, but I am sure if someone was traveling LEX-DTW-AMS they could do it for half that.


Flight Origin-Destination Date Fare Basis Code Status
NW 5883 DTW-LEX 09Jun2008 BBF Used
NW 5882 LEX-DTW 13Jun2008 BBF Available

Base Fare: USD1045.58 Tax:14.00

Tax:78.42 Tax:7.00 E-Ticket Total: USD1145.00


Method of Payment: Master Card************


Fare Calculation: 9 DTT NW LEX Q60.46 462.33NW DTT Q60.46 462.33USD1045.58END NW ZPDTWLEX XT5.00AY9.00XFDTW4.5LEX4.5


User currently offlineJasp25 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12629 times:



Quoting Star_world (Reply 1):
In addition there are always going to be business travelers that absolutely need to take a Chicago-South Bend flight, and therefore the flights can be priced as above to capture this market.

If you have to check-in an hour before your flight, 40-mins flight time, and another 30 minutes to actually walk out of the airport, get a transpo to your appointment...I would just rather drive 3 hours.. it's probably less hassle.

-jasp



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12596 times:



Quoting Jasp25 (Reply 4):
If you have to check-in an hour before your flight, 40-mins flight time, and another 30 minutes to actually walk out of the airport, get a transpo to your appointment...I would just rather drive 3 hours.. it's probably less hassle.

-jasp

That depends on how you work. I can check in at DTW, go to the Worldclub get some work done, work on the plane, etc. If I am driving, that just isn't an option.


User currently offlineJasp25 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12468 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 5):
That depends on how you work. I can check in at DTW, go to the Worldclub get some work done, work on the plane, etc. If I am driving, that just isn't an option.

That's true, but to most people, perhaps even to the majority of business travellers they would rather drive for 3 hrs than flying that would probably take as much time checking in, flight time, and out of the airport. Then again, to some peole, they find flying and be at the airport more efficient as they can get some of their work done.

-jasp



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12427 times:

My Yahoo mail is covered with advertisements which I have tuned out for the most part, but a recent American Airlines "deal of the day" made me laugh hysterically:

"San Diego to Los Angeles from $358."

I know there are a LOT of clueless people in this world, but how on earth could anyone think that $358 for a 110 mile drive think that would be a "deal"?



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20241 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12398 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 5):
That depends on how you work. I can check in at DTW, go to the Worldclub get some work done, work on the plane, etc. If I am driving, that just isn't an option.

Suppose it is $50 to drive this, each way, which is actually pretty high gas mileage since most cars nowadays get about 30 MPG highway. So really it's $15-20 each way for gas. Now, what kind of job do you do that it's worth paying $800 for a slower form of transport that spend 15 minutes working?

That math isn't working out in my head.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12182 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
Suppose it is $50 to drive this

It's not about the $50.00 drive, but the time involved. I can work at DTW/LEX/CVG etc, I can't do that in a car whilst driving.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
what kind of job do you do

One in which my clients are willing to pay for. I do IT consulting for a Chicago based firm.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
That math isn't working out in my head

You're a pediatrician, your time is a valuable commodity as well. The difference is people come to your practice, I have to go to my clients. Being in Detroit, that means that most of my work is out of state at the moment.

Anyway, I just used my sitiation as an example, please let's not make this thread about me, nor those of us that travel for work and have wealthy clients.


User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11798 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):
"San Diego to Los Angeles from $358."

I know there are a LOT of clueless people in this world, but how on earth could anyone think that $358 for a 110 mile drive think that would be a "deal"?

um actually have done this a number of times but it was JFK-LAX-SAN
so its not worth to drive.



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User currently offlineN867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11720 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 9):

It's not about the $50.00 drive, but the time involved. I can work at DTW/LEX/CVG etc, I can't do that in a car whilst driving.

How much does it cost to rent a driver+car for the distance? Can't be $840 bucks r/t, and you can work and travel. I guess some people just love to fly that much!



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11716 times:



Quote:
um actually have done this a number of times but it was JFK-LAX-SAN
so its not worth to drive.

Yes, but you were continuing on in your flight, not terminating in Los Angeles...

SAN-LAX = 95 nm, and at $358, that works out to around $3.77 per mile.

LAX-JFK = 2,151 nm, and at $3.77 per mile, your trip would have been $8,105.87.

I realize that the primary reason UA and AA have these commuter hops is for connecting pax at LAX, but advertising $3.77 per mile as a "bargain"? C'mon - that's hysterical!!  rotfl 



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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3870 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11681 times:



South Bend Airport - Chicago (Millenium Station)

One Way - $10.75
Reduced One Way - $5.35



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11589 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 9):
One in which my clients are willing to pay for. I do IT consulting for a Chicago based firm.

Well, not quite. If you asked your client, and showed them the options, they'd rather you drive - there is no question. Your company can charge them for your 'wasted time' at the airport, take 100% of the hourly rate, and get the $1,100 fare reimbursed... and your utilization is increased.

Yes, I know the industry quite well, and I also know that you're not getting much 'work' time out of flying somewhere that you can drive to in 3hrs.


Jimbo



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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3870 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11493 times:



Quoting Jasp25 (Reply 4):
If you have to check-in an hour before your flight, 40-mins flight time, and another 30 minutes to actually walk out of the airport, get a transpo to your appointment...I would just rather drive 3 hours.. it's probably less hassle.

It's a three hour train ride and even less by car, Chicago to South Bend is about 1 hr 30 min drive.



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User currently offlineDispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11184 times:



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 13):
South Bend Airport - Chicago (Millenium Station)

One Way - $10.75
Reduced One Way - $5.35

Plus with this, unless he works or lives in the NW burbs, upon arrival in Chicago, he is already smack dab downtown.

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 15):
It's a three hour train ride and even less by car, Chicago to South Bend is about 1 hr 30 min drive.

Provided of course that the freeways are flowing  Angry



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User currently offlineIntermodal64 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10737 times:

Don't airlines use the unrestricted Y fare to prorate revenues for interlined itineraries? If this is the case, they would need to publish a high fare to capture a reasonable portion of a $600 ticket for SBN-ORD-YUL where an interline would be involved. (I don't know how revenue allocation for alliances works these days.)

User currently offlineAS777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5162 times:

I remember when it only added an extra $75 on a plance ticket to fly SBN-ORD-SFO-ANC but I have to fly back home for a wedding in July and its $250 to fly ANC-ORD-SBN than it is to fly ANC-ORD. But even back in the day, it was like $200 to fly from SBN-ORD.

I would much rather take United Limo......$35 one way or $60 round trip. Drops you off and picks up right at ORD and SBN, not to mention goes further into Mishawaka which is closer to where my family lives.

I have taken the South Shore before, but does it go near ORD?


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3870 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4492 times:



Quoting AS777 (Reply 18):
I have taken the South Shore before, but does it go near ORD?

Nope, you have to take the "L" downtown from O'Hare and walk a few blocks east to Millenium station. Make sure you board the right train as there are different lines in the station.



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