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MAN News 18  
User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7814 posts, RR: 13
Posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 23060 times:
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As MAN 17 is nearly 300 replies long (and still no mod intervention to close it!), it's time for a new thread.

So here's the a rumour to start....U2 to operate 6 weekly to MXP from 01/10/08 using A319s according to the Milan Airports website.

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User currently offlineIb16uk From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 23055 times:

Lets hope this rumour is true

I personally would love to see easyJet make MAN as big a base as LGW is !!

User currently offlineGT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1847 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 23013 times:

Quoting David_itl (Thread starter):
So here's the a rumour to start....U2 to operate 6 weekly to MXP from 01/10/08 using A319s according to the Milan Airports website.

Quoting Ib16uk (Reply 1):

I personally would love to see easyJet make MAN as big a base as LGW is !!

Not heard this rumour although MXP along with BFS, MAD, SXF etc etc have long been speculated. Amongst EZY personnel at MAN, BFS is the "hot cert". The truth is, we don't know for sure until the winter schedule is announced and this will be sometime before the end of the month.

It also seems likely that A319's will not be based at MAN until early next year so if true, it will be MXP operated or operated by A320's.

As for the MAN base in general.....it will, in time, be a large base. U2 are in the process of a review of it's small bases but despite this, they are committed to MAN and therefore expansion will occur. The small bases across the network, according to the company, aren't efficient especially under the current climate. EMA is rumoured to be among two or three bases to face the chop.

Proud to fly from Manchester!
User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4939 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 22952 times:

I notice Jade never started, despite the link to a supposedly reliable website in MAN News 17. What's going on? Any news on TACV either?


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7814 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 22752 times:
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Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 2):
it will be MXP operated or operated by A320's.

The MXP times are arriving 1745 and departing 1815, so suggesting MAN based aircraft (flight numbers U29013/U29014). I can see a BFS routing when it gets back but can't think where they'll do in the morning/lunchtime. The commencement date just seems so convenient as I believe the existing schedule only goes up to the end of September.

I presume that we can expect a GVA service, though, this winter as other UK airports have at least a daily link during the winter (with LPL operating up to 4 or 5 daily?)

User currently offlineBoeing74741R From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 1222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 22710 times:

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 3):
I notice Jade never started

I'm sure I saw one of their aircraft at MAN on the 28th May when I flew out of there.

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4949 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 22637 times:

Year round MAN-GVA would be good from Easyjet, since beyond Saudi Arabian once or twice a week there is no summer MAN-GVA link

[Edited 2008-06-11 13:35:18]

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User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2117 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 22601 times:

Quoting David_itl (Reply 4):

I presume that we can expect a GVA service, though, this winter as other UK airports have at least a daily link during the winter (with LPL operating up to 4 or 5 daily?)

As an aside, I passed through GVA in pre-LCC days (about 1985), and remember counting that there were 12 charters departing to MAN, and those were only those departing within the next four or five hours. It may have been changeover day or whatever, but it was still pretty incredible.

The LPL-GVA winter timetable is on the website, and there are 2 daily on weekdays, 5 on Saturdays and 4 on Sundays.

Quoting Humberside (Reply 6):
Year round MAN-GVA would be good from Easyjet, since beyond Saudi Arabian once or twice a week there is no summer MAN-GVA link

LPL, BHX, BRS and EDI have one daily flight throughout the summer, LBA has 4 weekly, so theoretically the North West should be able to support more than one.

User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1421 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 22572 times:

Did TACV ever start service at MAN? Sure they were meant to start Sal flights?



User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7814 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 22410 times:
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Think TACV "postponed" their service for the time being

User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 22382 times:

I presume we can forget about any longhaul expansion from MAN for the next 5 years what with oil prices what they are and the general worlwide economic downturn? Seems Air Asia X was the usual load of nonsense that'll never happen, Thai, Air NZ, Cathay never happening, Singapore cutting services along with AA, Air Canada shipping out as well as MH a few years ago, PK now sure to reduce as they start services over th'hills at LBA, Mahan going tits up, Saudia reducing to once a week and petty attempts at services to South Africa by GSM soon scrapped.

How bloody depressing.

And don't anyone try and tell me Ryanair and Easyjet will make things better - they won't.

User currently offlineGT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1847 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 22362 times:

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 10):
And don't anyone try and tell me Ryanair and Easyjet will make things better - they won't.

Clearly they won't, they don't do Long Haul  Smile What you need to remember....it is not some big evil vendetta against MAN, airports around the world are feeling the pinch. As an industry we need to get through these hard times the best we can and if that means reducing a few schedules then so be it......they will be back. MAN always seems to be on the periphery of airlines radar which means when times are good, we get the services but when times are bad we just have to wait.....and wait we will. I must admit however, the Air Asia thing is a bit of a saga.

For the time being, Easyjet will atleast stem the drop in pax throughput and (hopefully) fill in the gaps and provide a decent short haul network operated by a based airline. Ryanair could well do the same aswell if they operated to major european cities more than 4 time a week.  Smile

Proud to fly from Manchester!
User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7814 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 22273 times:
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Just a few rambling thoughts on a few of the long-haul routes

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 10):
Saudia reducing to once a week

I'm sure they are still 2 a week?

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 10):
Thai, Air NZ, Cathay never happening

Thai was never a certainty for this year - if they are feeling the pinch on a "prestige" route, they are hardly likely start serving a route that would be loss-making for Air NZ would need more aircraft in their fleet to commence services and the 787 delays have probably put back any prospective service for at least a couple of years: there are posters within this site (Koruman, perhaps) who'd be able to give specifics of why a MAN service is "doable" and as for CX...have the issues surrounding why they couldn't operate SVO-MAN been resolved yet?

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 10):
Mahan going tits up,

An airline banned from EU airspace due perceived unsafe practices is MAN's fault?!?


As soon as 787s and A350s enter airlines fleets, destinations like MAN will see a greater likelihood of seeing frequencies maintained or routes introduced, if these aircraft match the claimed reduction of the amount of fuel used which could be sending some of our current routes the wrong side of breakeven.

User currently offlineRyanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 22203 times:

What routes are the bmibaby Airbus currently running on?

User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 22007 times:

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 13):
What routes are the bmibaby Airbus currently running on?

Certainly BFS and ALC in recent weeks. Also to be used on the MAD service when it starts.

User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 21911 times:

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 13):
What routes are the bmibaby Airbus currently running on?

Usually does the 1st BFS run, then goes to AGP and back and finally does ALC and back.

User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7814 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 21861 times:
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May provisional figures are out (and if you're wondering about commentary about the past few months, I've had other things on my mind just a teensy bit more important than aircraft)

FR new routes: MRS 1708 pax, BRE 3063 pax, BGY 2999 pax, GRO, 5052 pax (I'll work out the averages for the routes later!)

Focusing on some of the long-haul routes:
Pakistan ISB up 61% (19000+pax) KHI down 63% (334 pax), LHE up 12% (3440 pax). Overall 23000 pax, up 45% (not quite doom and gloom, is it!)
SV 1700 pax to JED and RUH (18 services, 94 pax avg)
Middle East: QR big drop (30%!) to 10600, EK good increase (12%) to 35000 and EY very good increase (30%) to 10500. TIP 779 pax (up 45%)
SQ a modest 42% increase to 13700 pax (221 a flight which I think is around 78% loads)
JFK up 36% to 17000, doubt it's down to BA!

European routes: Germany steady increases on almost all route (HAM is odd one out, falling 3%), HEL saw 46% increase to 8500 pax (benefits of the new 6 weekly nightstopping service), KEF up 28% (2200 pax, 127 a flight). Star route appears to be BTS which more than doubled to nearly 8000 pax.

User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1421 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 21836 times:

The SV figures are very good. I had heard that a lot of their European services were pretty quiet. IF they are picking up around the same number from GVA(prob more F/C pax) the route is doing pretty well.



User currently offlineRyanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21712 times:

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 15):
Usually does the 1st BFS run, then goes to AGP and back and finally does ALC and back.

Cheers, is it staying until the end of the Summer season?

User currently offlineMANGuy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 21471 times:

Hi folks, this is my first post on here.... I've finally taken the plunge!

Does anybody know what has happened to Syrianair at MAN? As far as I know, flights have not operated since early spring and I'm curious as to whether its a planned break or whether they have stopped their MAN flights altogether?

Also I took a flight to the Canaries recently which boarded next to the SV and I have to say there seemed to be a healthy number of pax boarding for an "odd-ball" route. Although I believe it is definitely going down to 1x weekly later in the summer.

User currently offlineSpeedbird19 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 449 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 21335 times:

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 18):
Cheers, is it staying until the end of the Summer season?

It was intended for use only over the summer  Smile But who knows, if there's an expansion of routes maybe WW will keep it for longer!

User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 21204 times:

Was at MAN on Saturday having a couple of pints at the airport pub and saw BE Dash-8 G-JEDI come in on emergency with gear problems. The crew recycled the gear again at about 1000' and finally got 3 greens.

Has it left again? When I left it was parked on a remote stand being checked.

"Our 319's are very reliable. They get fixed very quickly."
User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 7154 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 20934 times:

New CX B747F at MAN today, B-LIA on the CX001, should be arriving in the next 15-20 minutes. (as of 09.50)

wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineMAN23R From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 20802 times:

Quoting Oly720man (Reply 22):
New CX B747F at MAN today, B-LIA on the CX001, should be arriving in the next 15-20 minutes. (as of 09.50)

yes, i saw it come in, very clean!


User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20633 times:

Why was the early AY outbound canx today?

25 Oly720man : Was the plane on the ground? OH-LEG that should have done the flight flew HEL-LPA-HEL overnight last night and is now on its way to VNO according to
26 Post contains images Myt332 : Negative as per 18JUN08. When I landed at EGCC after my 3.5 hour A319 endeavour I saw G-JEDI was parked up near to the TCX hangars. I only actually t
27 Humberside : With Easyjet anouncing a major MXP expansion today, looks like no MAN-MXP route for now on EZY
28 Mhodgson : Clearly the force is not strong in that one.
29 David_itl : Before anyone asks, this is WW's comment on thier just-started MAD and LIS services: "In the first week we will carry over 1,400 passengers between Ma
30 Speedbird19 : The thing was down at EMA while I was working there, seems to have followed me back to MAN, my sincere apologies
31 GayrugbyMAN : I can't see how WW will lose on the MAD route, it has been much needed for a long time now. Amazing to think how BACON often onl;y managed to fill hal
32 GT4EZY : In terms of based aircraft it was always unlikely that more than two aircraft would be based here over the Winter. The question instead is what the m
33 MainMAN : Hello there, welcome! Let's face it, this is just to provide a better selection of office plants and a bigger water dispensing machine for EZY employ
34 BlueShamu330s : And the installation of EasyPods for airport standbys
35 MANmatt : Bit of news from T2, the new outbound control will open on the 16th July, confirmed by the airport management. After this date, T2 will be similar to
36 Flyhi : Can anyone tell me what those new big metal doors are when you pass through the last exit of Arrivals, just before the duty free shop in T1?? They are
37 Gooner : What would be your gut feeling for new EZY routes from MAN
38 MANmatt : They are anti-backtrack doors. They have them in T3 already. The idea is that with those doors in place, once passengers have gone through them they
39 Mhodgson : Unfortunately someone didn't really think them through - when I passed through T1 earlier this month, they got blocked by someone with a trolley full
40 MANmatt : That's the airpor all over for you! Not fully thinking things through before they undertake major changes to the terminal buildings!!
41 GT4EZY : It would be a gut feeling but................ Definites: AGP, INN, MLA, ALC (ALC already announced) Suspicion: BFS Possible: MXP (although expansion
42 Col : Don't expect the DL 757 today, its broke at Gate 7 in JFK. Wee surge after take off, and back we came, should have bought the RR version of the 757!!!
43 Gooner : Do you not think EZY would be better off trying for "city routes" rather than replicating the "bucket & spade " routes that the other LCC's already f
44 David_itl : I would have thought it might be slightly prudent to keep to the "tried and tested" that GT operated for the time being rather than adding routes whi
45 Gooner : Whoever could you mean?
46 GT4EZY : GT indeed wanted to try TLV, LCA and ATH. ATH is the only destination out of those three that is a U2 destination. The other two are stretching the "
47 DptMAN : I was just wondering if any one was at MAN last Monday 16th June 2008 and managed to snap a shot of the EK aircraft operating into MAN from DXB as EK0
48 Myt332 : Well it's ok, the PFO didn't operate on Saturday as U2 failed to find an F/O to fly the plane. Classy! Whoops! What happened to you in the end? Blood
49 GT4EZY : Crew shortages happen at every airlines if I am not mistaken. It happened at GT and it will happen at U2. The difference is that U2 will place an F/O
50 Myt332 : Sure they did, it saved them a heap of money by doing so. If it wouldn't have done then they wouldn't have, simple as. It's not some super customer f
51 GT4EZY : Absolutely but U2 rarely does this and we all know that. There are some things that LCC's don't do and make it perfectly clear that they don't but ye
52 Myt332 : I moan and don't travel on them where possible. I'm thus allowed to! I don't see the issue still. Indeed they do. In fact when I was on U2 the other
53 David_itl : Interesting snippet from a week or two back which I don't believe has been noted here: airblue's 1st anniversary of MAN ops has been and gone and they
54 Jamotcx : Says he whos using my staff travel....
55 GT4EZY : I've seen crew at GT being repremanded for that on various check flights especially with regards to complimentary drink. It is clearly inappropriate
56 Myt332 : Probably. I've had a few run ins with the odd CSD after stumbling out of the lounge, I'll admit it! Like I say, I only go on you lot when I have to.
57 Candid76 : Regardless of whether you like LCCs or not the important thing for a market and economy the size of the North West of England is that you have a choic
58 Col : Sat around for about an hour while they decided to canx flight. DL arranged hotel, and ended up getting to hotel at 3-30am, after all the jerking aro
59 JonnyWishbone : Think you have summed MAN up in a nutshell! Went to Berlin last week, HAD to overnight. Went to Rome the week before... fine if you go Friday and com
60 GT4EZY : I agree with you....to an extent. MAN still has LH, AF etc but there are notable holes in the network ex MAN. BA, however, chose to ditch MAN and not
61 GT4EZY : Further to my last post and for those of you interested, A U2 A319, G-EZEJ, will be in MAN this morning and then later this afternoon operating the AG
62 Trekster : Keep him guessing lol
63 GT4EZY : lol I have my suspicions. There aren't that many crew at MAN who you would find on here.
64 LHRjc : There aren't that many crew at MAN full stop hence so many cancellations or delays due to crew shortage Now dont' get defensive on me, I'm not one of
65 GT4EZY : Shortage of F/O's, just enough cabin crew, just one cancellation. OTP needs polishing up to usual U2 standards but this is seldom due to crew shortag
66 Candid76 : Ah, so they still refer to people as being "orange" or not? Many moons ago when EZY first opened their base at LPL, I was one of the ten that made th
67 GT4EZY : No, it just seems to be a word thats stuck or just used as a term of endearment by ex GT crew. Although we're still only a few months into easyjet li
68 Post contains links Oly720man : To get away from the LCC discussion for the moment.... our favourite airport is 70 years old today. http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/m...nweb.nsf/Co
69 MAN23R : A380 planned for 2nd week in august LHR-MAN-SIN!!!
70 Spud757 : Cool... didn't know MAN was A380 ready yet. How/where will it be handled from? Using BE as an example... if you booked their 'economy plus' tickets t
71 MAN23R : shadowing the daily T7 MAN-SIN service,might even replace it. its handled by us.
72 David_itl : As I severely doubt the compatibility of any terminal with A380 ops at the moment, I would hazard a guess that somewhere on the cargo apron may be req
73 MAN23R : its will no doubt be going on one of the remotes......
74 Speedbird19 : won't the wing overhang the avp if the airport is on runway 23 ops? :s
75 SKORD : Does anyone have an exact date for the A-380 visit, and also an arrival time?
76 MAN23R : nearly confirmed for the 7th august, parking on remote... scott
77 GT4EZY : Saw my A380 last night in the sky's above Europe from the flightdeck. Big brother really was looking down on us. hehe.
78 Boeing74741R : Any more news on this will be greatly appreciated. I will have to go down there if it does come in, and if it does end up going past the AVP it will
79 LHRjc : Today's easyJet MAN-TFS-MAN EZY1901/1902 will be operated by Titan 733 - G-POWC due to lack of available U2 FO's.
80 GT4EZY : A tough week for U2 at MAN. Slot delays, a Captain taken ill downroute, short of F/O's will surely hammer our OTP ranking.
81 Boeing74741R : Best get recruiting then!
82 GayrugbyMAN : What's happening in the T1 immigration hall?! At the bsiest time of year they have started some building work which has drastically reduced the hall's
83 GT4EZY : Not my business mate.
84 Post contains links Oly720man : Jade again... Airport Coordination Ltd (ACL) have the service starting 1st August and 2/week on weds and friday. http://www.acl-uk.org/reportsStatist.
85 DptMAN : Just thinking, now with C0 going all weird an pulling out of MAN. We are left with no services to WAW! Any chance of FR launching the route or even Wi
86 MainMAN : 'Polish cities' were mentioned in WW's MAN expansion announcement several weeks ago. They already operate to KRK from BHX, and to WAW from EMA, BHX a
87 CYatUK : Any idea about airside departures at T1? Is the new hall finished? My last flight was from BHX so I haven't used MAN T1 for 4-5 months now.
88 ScottieDog : Oly720man Your link is to the Start of Season Summer report for 2008. As such the reference is to the original slot application and is now very out of
89 Post contains links David_itl : CY is aiming for daily flights next year according to this snippet
90 Speedbird19 : Anyone know any details on the light a/c that caused 23L to be closed off? Airport was still down to single runway ops when I made a flying visit at a
91 LHRjc : A PA34, G-JDBC, had the left main gear collapse on landing which closed 23L for a while while the fire team investigated and cleared the plane from t
92 MAN23R : correct, we were ready to push an thomson flight when the crew told us the airport had been closed, but they couldnt tell us what had happened, though
93 BlueShamu330s : Errrrm, maybe if they were listening on CDP and Ground and the accident happened on Air, maybe, just maybe, they didn't know either the actual reason
94 Gkirk : Quiite possibly. FWIW, your sig is deeply offensive Anyhow, nothing interesting going on at MAN at the moment? Has the 3rd platform at the Station be
95 Post contains images BlueShamu330s : I believe there's a mass influx of pre pubescent borstal escapees making their way over to camp [sic] in the AVP over the next few days, but nothing
96 CYatUK : This month is CY's 35th birthday since the inaguration of flights from Cyprus to MAN. Speaking during a small party at MAN last Friday, a CY spokesma
97 Post contains links and images BlueShamu330s : Seems like only yesterday... Sorry for the quality
98 Post contains links and images Myt332 : He drives a VW Touareg, it's not much of a 4x4. Me too but for the below: Took this after I landed from West Sussex International yesterday. You can
99 BlueShamu330s : Sorry, someone call...? Ha Ha, nah, my first and only crash was in a 4 wheeled jobby, a Fiat Panda, centuries ago, in Birmingham when I was at Uni. I
100 Post contains images Myt332 : That is bloody hilarious, it feels so great to know that you are in charge of hundreds of lives each day! Just don't try it with your flying contrapt
101 BlueShamu330s : You don't 'become' a Chav, it's all in the breeding; you're just giving in to nature. Shamu ps, I can only presume you've had your head in my photobu
102 Myt332 : I'm so glad this isn't an innuendo thread.
103 Post contains images BlueShamu330s : LOL ditto
104 CYatUK : Thanks for sharing.
105 Speedbird19 : When I went in the T1 Servisair lounge they had loads of free booze, Grolsch, loopy juice, all sorts, so you won't be running dry, that's for sure
106 David_itl : Useless trivia: apparently Willie Walsh has stated that 75% of MAN-LHR passengers are transferring onto other services (seeing his entire quote also m
107 GayrugbyMAN : Is that when LH buy BD and axe the MAN-LHR route, and feed everyone through FRA and MUC?
108 Myt332 : Also the first full month without 'The Spirirt of G-TECH' services from MAN-JFK. Funny story about G-BNWH. On the last day she operated JFK-MAN I was
109 GayrugbyMAN : Easyjet Winter Schedule Now on Sale, not very exciting Alicante Malaga Malta Paphos Tenerife South Innsbruck is shown but not bookable
110 Myt332 : Well give them time. Key Targets for U2 are the elimination of significant overheads in Summer 2008, integration into easyJet business model by Winte
111 GayrugbyMAN : Any further FR expansion due for this winter?
112 LHRjc : Makes sense I suppose. Yep they will and it'll be interesting to see where they choose. It'll also in my opnion be easier to expand when the ex GT cr
113 Myt332 : That wouldn't be, "Return to Gatwick!" would it?
114 LHRjc : It sure is
115 GT4EZY : Does everyone realise that the MAN U2 schedule has been on sale since last Weekend? (see thread from around then) The routes are very GT orientated wh
116 Boeing74741R : Absolutely! They wouldn't commit to five based a/c by 2010 and operate them on the current schedules, and I'm sure in the future other routes will st
117 Jiminyman : After speaking to some one in SQ the A380 if coming on the 7th August is not their's. They have said that the station staff have not been advised of a
118 David_itl : When did the MAN website's airline news have amongst bmibaby's winter routes on sale have 3 destinations which don't feature on the WW website? They a
119 Boeing74741R : If it isn't one of SQ's A380s then whose A380 is it, if anything?
120 MainMAN : That misguided information's just been taken from a general bmibaby press release. FAO, MJV and NCE are from BHX.......we've got enough of our own to
121 MAN23R : well guys..... talking to LH crew today, they nearly confirmed LH is going to commence MAN-JFK.
122 David_itl : If it were to pass, it wouldn't be the 1st time that they've operated a scheduled transatlantic route ex MAN! Who wants to guess what they were?
123 GayrugbyMAN : Not sure I understand that question.....do you mean which transat ops LH have been invlolved in from other UK 'ports? If it does happen, will be a win
124 GayrugbyMAN : OAG shows that FR are to operate Wednesday and Friday flights to NRN. Nothing on the website yet.
125 Mhodgson : Hope they do a little better then V:Bird did!
126 Flyhi : MON347 to SFB that was due to depart MAN at 1545 on Saturday delayed until Sunday morning . I think this was G-DIMB. Anyone any more info? Can anyone
127 MANGuy : Thought V Bird did ok with their flights at MAN until the whole operation went belly up? Although I stand corrected..... Think FR know what they are d
128 Speedbird19 : G-DIMB became part of the MON fleet back in 2006 if i'm not mistaken.
129 David_itl : They too have done a Sabena: 1956 saw a 2 weekly HAM-DUS-MAN-SNN-YQX-ORD service using Super Connies (only lasted the summer, runway limitations hamp
130 GayrugbyMAN : About time they came back then!
131 Post contains links Boeing74741R : GINFO has Monarch as its registered owners... Ownership Status: Chartered Registered Owners: MONARCH AIRLINES LTD PROSPECT HOUSE PROSPECT WAY, LONDON
132 BluemoonUK : A380 supposed to be doing a fly past on saturday at lunchtime. Bluemoon
133 Post contains links Oly720man : http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness....lane-to-stop-at-manchester-airport The Airbus A380, the world’s largest passenger aircraft, will land at Man
134 MANmatt : Couple of new EZY routes for the winter: Daily flights to GVA starting 12DEC08 using an GVA based a/c 3 Times weekly flights to SOF starting 11DEC08 u
135 GT4EZY : Good news, was an unexpected surprise when I checked in yesterday afternoon even though I knew there were gaps in the schedule for a new route. GVA w
136 GayrugbyMAN : I understand from a WW source that the MAN-MAD/LIS and possibly even the BCN (which hasn't even started yet!) may all go for the winter schedule. Seem
137 Humberside : I wonder if Bulgaria Air will keep going now with Easyjet starting Sofia
138 GayrugbyMAN : OK have manages to face up to WW and LS on the PRG route, so I should imagine FB will remain. I would imagine LX won't return to their MANGVA roite t
139 GayrugbyMAN : 'Cadogan, the tour operator, has created its own ‘Cadogan Class’ on a bmi aircraft to provide the only premium service to the Canary Islands this
140 Humberside : On sale for winter, 3xWeek I think Prague is a larger market though and OK have onward connections. Sofia is a far smaller, more niche market which m
141 GT4EZY : There was a thread on this last week. There hasn't been a premium service ex MAN to Canaries since GT adopted BACON service and not when the airline
142 GayrugbyMAN : It is a niche market, though don't forget that Bulgarians will soon be able to work in the UK under the EU regulations, so this will surely provide a
143 David_itl : Amadeus is still showing LX on the route as a weekly RJ100 route on a Sunday
144 MANGuy : With regards to WW, if things aren't going well on MAD and LIS it makes their press announcement the other week that the flights had started well and
145 David_itl : I think we'll have to work out the flying schedule for aircraft to see if there are any periods when it may be possible to add in more secotes. I'll
146 Daleaholic : A380... What time is it expected and what runway is it likely to fly over? Thanks.
147 BluemoonUK : forecasts suggest 23R in use and its appox 13.20 flypast.
148 MainMAN : Doesn't it depend upon which contracts they have? Like Swiss Travel Service/Bridge Travel for example. It does, but a twice a week service is useless
149 GayrugbyMAN : WW should be looking at at least one Polish route for winter, KRK or WAW for example, or Berlin as an alternative.
150 MainMAN : I can't see Krakow or Katowice happening again because of W6, FR and U2 all from Liverpool. WAW is a different matter......there's only W6 from LPL.
151 GayrugbyMAN : I was hoping we might see LO return after the demise of C0.
152 Ferengi80 : Are EasyJet planning on painting the aircraft they have at MAN? I was up there this afternoon, to see the A380, and I noticed G-TTOI has some damage t
153 Boeing74741R : As they are planned to be phased out of the fleet I understand that they will not be repainted into the full colour scheme. Someone correct me if I'm
154 GT4EZY : The ex GT fleet will not be treated to a full U2 livery for the simple reason that they will not be around for long. I expect wear and tear to the dec
155 GayrugbyMAN : So with TFS, MLA, AGP, SOF and GVA all anounced for winter, is that it for the U2 fleet at MAN, or are there any gaps that are yet to be announced? MA
156 GT4EZY : The MAN based aircraft will now be fully utilised operating all but the GVA route as it looks like this will be GVA operated perhaps with the excepti
157 MANGuy : Hopefully all is not lost for the WW flights to LIS, MAD and BCN just yet........there was some promoting taking place on Manchester's Key 103 this mo
158 ScottieDog : CAA figures released today give the following movement/passenger numbers for June 2008 Movements - 18134 - down 5.5% Rolling Annual Movements - 201970
159 GayrugbyMAN : Anyone know what Air Berlin's plans are for MAN this winter?
160 GayrugbyMAN : LX ZRH-MAN services this winter to be A319, loads excellent and business class strong too prompting this upgrade.
161 BlueShamu330s : .....J consisting mainly of onward connectors, thanks to competitive pricing. Well done to LX, though the little pink Fokker was quite endearing.
162 Danfearn77 : Does anyone know what the load factors are like for EK from MAN. My dad works for the police at the airport and says he has heard snippets of Emirates
163 GayrugbyMAN : You are such a flirt!
164 BlueShamu330s : Gets me nowhere though LOL
165 Danfearn77 : Just had a thought after looking at an old article. What are the odds off Cathay re-announcing MAN now that Oasis have gone bust?
166 GayrugbyMAN : In the current economic climate, virtually none at all. Possibly Air China is a safer bet in the next few years, or an Indian carrier such as Jet or K
167 Danfearn77 : yeh it would be good to see Air China, but i would think that the delays to the 787 programme will push this route back, unless they were going to use
168 David_itl : EKs current 777s are flying around 75% capacity. This equates to 50% to 60% on the A380s that I'm expecting EK to use i.e. the HD version. How soon th
169 Boeing74741R : They intend to use the A380 on the MAN-DXB route but a lot of that is dependent on when MAN has the taxiways and suitable gates ready for A380 ops. N
170 MAN23R : its rumored that EK plan to use the A380 on the MAN-DXB route from 2010 onwards.....
171 Gkirk : Any truth that FedEx will pull the plug from MAN?
172 Danfearn77 : None that ive heard of. Infact its been rumoured that they were going to start flights to Newark in the autumn. Has anyone else heard anything?
173 GayrugbyMAN : Reported on other sites that all might not be secure as regards FedEx's future at MAN. I thought they were looking at having a dedicated cargo facilit
174 Danfearn77 : Thats what i thought too. They started flying from here because of their takeover of AMC, and in turn these had a large base at manchester so it does
175 Danfearn77 : Just been under the flight path at MAN and what looked like a 767 flew over. Looked like a private livery, was a red tail, red undercarriage and red e
176 MainMAN : I saw the back of that, over Stockport. I thought it was UPS.
177 Myt332 : These are the only B767's with slots at MAN today so I'm going to say it was the Globespan B763 you saw from Vancouver which was due at 1145 BST. MAN
178 Post contains links and images Oly720man : View Large View MediumPhoto © Stewart Andrew from acarsd G-CDPT 400E0D (B763 B4) 1231 20080721 B40942 (YVR-YYC-MAN)
179 MAN23R : yep was deffinatly flyglobespan
180 GayrugbyMAN : Are BD also cutting back their longhaul ops this winter?I see AA are cutting down from daily to 5/weekly. Presumably nothing is going to happen with a
181 Gkirk : Apart from SQ going to 5 x weekly as well, no I don't think so.
182 Humberside : Heres what is currently loaded in the LS timetable Alicante - Nothing Budapest - 3xWeek Chambery - up to 5xWeek Faro - Nothing Geneva - up to 8xWeek
183 Danfearn77 : FR have cut flights from dublin this winter, so maybe MAN may lose 1 frequency a day. As for the other routes i dont know really. Other routes on off
184 GayrugbyMAN : So essentially a LS pull out!
185 Danfearn77 : Looks like it doesnt it. They cant be pulling out of all these routes, surely. Ive flown to Rome with them before and the aircraft was very full. Min
186 Humberside : With regards to Jet 2, while getting late further flights could be put on sale And while drastic if that is the schedule to be performed, it wouldn't
187 GayrugbyMAN : Hopefully FR might look at MAN-Rome and we'll get some decent fares on the route at last.
188 Col : Just went through T2 twice in the last 9 days. First time was a disaster, difficult understanding where to go after check in etc. On Monday took the D
189 Post contains links Myt332 : Wasn't it obvious that you had to go through that hidden passageway that was hidden by some pillars? Jees mate! Actually, I had problems too. I've us
190 Col : Also, they threw in the Virgin check in counters and oversize baggage dump. Luckily had my compass and night vision goggles!!! I only use the place 4
191 GayrugbyMAN : 'Cost cutting by Ryanair will hit four European routes from Liverpool Airport this winter. The airline will suspend flights between November 4 and Dec
192 Gkirk :
193 Post contains links and images Oly720man : Just as a matter of interest, why did Flybaboo E190 HB-JQG do a CDG-MAN-CDG rotation for Air France yesterday afternoon? (as well as NCL earlier.) AF
194 Humberside : Baboo have a contract to provide a 'hot spare' to AF according to posts on the swiss aviation thread The issue is with costs at the European airport,
195 MainMAN : It's possible that they might do slightly better, with MAN having the larger and unfortunately wealthier demographic, but..... I doubt FR would start
196 Myt332 : The AF2668/2569 rotation for today (23JUL) is listed as a B734 and then from 24JUL-25OCT it's down as a F70. Not sure why, just repeating what I'm se
197 Candid76 : Today's AF flight is FGLXQ of Axis Airways
198 Oly720man : Thanks for those. AF must have a number of planes in maintenance or be short of crew.
199 MANmatt : Been looking at the provisional KLM winter timetable today, and that has the new Emb-190s down to do the KL1083/4 flights which is due in at 1320 and
200 MANmatt : Would have helped if I had said the Emb-190s aren't due to start on the route until the 29th Dec!
201 GayrugbyMAN : What has happened to RB? Have they left for good?
202 MANGuy : Hi GayrugbyMAN I asked a similar question about RB a while ago on this thread but there wasn't much in the way of answers, so perhaps everyone is in t
203 Myt332 : Syrian haven't held any slots at MAN since March 2008. Their last slots ran for W08 from 28OCT07 till 27MAR08 and were for a Tuesday and Friday to op
204 GayrugbyMAN : Why are most of the transatlantic arrivals so late today?
205 Myt332 : They were tired and didn't want to get out of bed.
206 JRowson : I would assume that it's to do with the adverse weather conditions affecting the whole of the East Coast of the US yesterday.
207 Col : You can say that again, looks like I brought the rain to MA from MAN!!! NY area takes a beating when you have bad weather, restrictions everywhere, g
208 MainMAN : One thing I can never work out about JFK is that it handles 48 million ppa, yet there seem to be horrendous queues to use the runway on departure. Sa
209 Col : Those 48m alway depart between 3-30pm and 10pm. Throw in a friggin boat load of widebodies with those pesky regional jets, and you get a fiasco of ru
210 Boeing74741R : They best not leave it too late then. I mean, is it usual for airlines to not load routes they intend to operate for the Winter until August/Septembe
211 Skord : In my past experience, Jet2 have always held back on releasing fares for certain routes, to the point where i have given up waiting and booked with so
212 Humberside : FAO is seasonal. Not sure if it was year round at one point, but the only year round BLK route is ALC (BFS being reduced to seasonal) The main sun ro
213 MainMAN : That would explain it, thanks. I hadn't considered the peaks and regional aircraft situation at JFK. I can foresee a time at MAN when those Isle of M
214 MANGuy : I too had high hopes for Jet2 when they arrived at MAN. Lots of fanfare, a seemingly good advertising presence and a good mix of leisure routes and ci
215 MainMAN : Absolutely, and at least bmibaby have been consistent in their approach to MAN. I'm not so concerned about FR and U2 providing mega bases at MAN, but
216 SKORD : They seem to have lost their identity (at least here in MAN) Are they a lo-cost Scheduled carrier, or a charter airline? I agree with MANGuy, their sc
217 Myt332 : Me too. MAN offers an awful selection of direct flights really. I'm going down to FAO in a few days and we had the choice of LS and ZB with the latte
218 GT4EZY : To be fair, two scheduled carriers on the FAO ain't all that bad. Not too long ago it would been a pure charter affair. The failure to offer a freque
219 Myt332 : Yea that was worded badly, I didn't mean FAO so much, it was nice to have an alternative with ZB. Rome for example only has LS which is poor. MAD has
220 SKORD : I think ZB are sneaky, but in a brilliant way! I book with them because i trust them (unlike LS) A week before dept i decide to treat myself to a "lu
221 Myt332 : I flew BA Business class to ALC the other month, I arrived pissed and totally relaxed. I like ID90! Each to their own. It's just up to you if you val
222 SKORD : Its the best.... isnt it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But on ZB i am a normal pax! My ID is on Star Alliance. My comments are based on booking flight as a norma
223 Myt332 : Me too sadly. ZB are nice though I agree and with that extra leg room seat with the purple head rest cover etc you do feel like it's been a proper bu
224 Boeing74741R : There is indeed room for a LCC on the three routes you mention, and to be honest they basically threw away VCE as the only competition on the route w
225 GT4EZY : With regards to LS, I agree with many of your thoughts. They haven't proved to be the success at MAN that many of us imagined. However, LBA is a safe
226 Myt332 : On the contrary, we haven't forgotten that at all and are all too aware of it. However what I also submit is that some people have gotten too complac
227 GT4EZY : But i disagree. The proof speaks for itself. Why did ZB withdraw it's complimentary meal? GT adopted BACON etc. There are still some who will choose
228 Myt332 : You have the right to however: I was talking about shopping for flights. What I am saying is that not all people realise they have a true choice and
229 Danfearn77 : Surprising this, i have flown to DUB countless times over the past 3/4 years all with FR apart from the last time when i flew EI. They were a lot che
230 SKORD : I dont ever expect FR to operate that route, but my point was, that if a carrier offered reasonable fares on that route, then i would probably take a
231 David_itl : But they do...except they call it EIN? Actually, it shows that Jet2 must have been struggling as if their flights were full, the price would have bee
232 JakTrax : AP-OOI due tomorrow (Tue) at 0850, no departure time. It's a PIA government A310 so the Pakistani president is probably making a fuel stop en-route to
233 GayrugbyMAN : Great news with the NRN service, though will there be any more FR routes announced this winter? A few Italian ones wouln't go a miss!
234 GayrugbyMAN : FR MAN-NRN now on sale. Appers to be daily.[Edited 2008-07-29 04:47:26]
235 David_itl : Times (based on MAN): Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun = arr 19:00 dep 19:25 and Tues, Thurs, Sat see arr 20:30 dept 20;55 i.e. really friendly times for getting th
236 GayrugbyMAN : Over 1000 seats a week on that route is quite a capacity, they must be sure they cn fill those seats to NRN! I really like the way FR are building up
237 MANmatt : I too am enjoying the expansion from FR, but I have to say so far none of the new routes are appealing in terms of timings. I know that FR don't real
238 MainMAN : Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy, Luboszewy, Simleu Silvaniei and Bournemouth.
239 GT4EZY : Where? Expansion at MAN by any airline is good and FR do offer MAN some business during the quieter periods of the day. i.e the NRN's. However, with
240 SKORD : An RAF Tristar landed about 1630hrs ish today. There were Police cars positioned at the end of the runway on Ringway Road a good 45mins before it land
241 Oly720man : Can't imagine why the police would be anxious about an RAF Tristar (ZD950 from Akrotiri btw). They could have been increasing patrols before the Paki
242 Danfearn77 : Quite right, for business travellers their timings, or certainly most of them are useles. Also if youR on a short break you can look at is as a day l
243 MainMAN : Doubtful. The FR networks from MAN and LPL will probably be complimentary. It's noticeable that FR have started services from MAN to unserved city an
244 Gkirk : Any idea for the reason for the Kuwait Airways 744 visiting on saturday?
245 GayrugbyMAN : I agree that FR will generally not serve anywhere from MAN that they already serve from LPL, except maybe Madrid, which is ceasing with WW this wibter
246 JakTrax : Interesting. Not seen anything about it myself; what time's it due? Karl
247 Post contains links Oly720man : http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/whatsdue.htm In at noon out at 2pm, KU001, 9K-ADE
248 JakTrax : Ah, OK, thanks. Wasn't on RR in the wee hours this morning. Karl
249 GayrugbyMAN : Etihad Airways will launch daily flights from Manchester to Melbourne in Australia via a connection through its home base in Abu Dhabi from March 2009
250 MANmatt : Perhaps you forgot about the twice daily flights to ARN and 6 weekly flights to OSL with SK? Matt
251 Danfearn77 : Thats my point, only SK fly these routes so a bit of competition from FR certainly wouldnt go a miss. Thanks for that, i suppose there is enough comp
252 David_itl : And look forward to another "major" airline leaving us? If FR force SK off those routes, where's the guarantee that FR is going to get the numbers to
253 BMED : As much as I would love to see this route I'm sure someone like Air Southwest would be better and provide an alternative to the high flybe prices of
254 MANmatt : Perhaps a direct respone to FR cutting back on services to DUB this winter? Nice to see the ORK flight doing well. Is this still operated using a DUB
255 SKORD : With regards to Scandinavian routes, ARN is not that busy hence the reduced schedule in the Summer months, but CPH is heavily utilised. However, a vas
256 Humberside : None of those are FR bases so would require w patterns, which are rare for FR. Also they will cease WAW services this winter
257 MANGuy : With regards to KU, didn't an A300 turn up last year (or maybe the year before) and sit on remote parking near T2 for a wee while? Not sure why it did
258 David_itl : Zoom is going to operate 2 weekly non-stop YYZ services and an additional weekly YVR service next year
259 Post contains links Oly720man : 6/7 and 8/9 Sept 2006 http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/sep06fp.htm
260 Daleaholic : Could the KU 744 be a football charter? Maybe one of the bigger clubs in the region returning from a pre season tour? This is fantastic news for MAN!
261 Gkirk : A330 to AUH, then 346 to MEL
262 GayrugbyMAN : Confirmed: AB to axe HAM-MAN at end of the summer season. Another one bites the dust.[Edited 2008-07-31 02:37:04]
263 Post contains links GayrugbyMAN : It isn't all bad news though! http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....ess/s/1060146_airport_profits_soar
264 Post contains links GayrugbyMAN : http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....starts_daily_flights_to_dusseldorf
265 GayrugbyMAN : Zoom has boosted Manchester services for Summer 2009 with a second weekly non stop flight to Toronto and a second weekly flight to Vancouver.
266 MainMAN : AirAsia X reported to be in the process of planning 6 weekly STN-KUL services from next March or June. This doesn't surprise me in the slightest, I ho
267 GayrugbyMAN : I never held out much hope for this service anyway, I mean who want to travel 13hrs in a 29in pitch seat anyway! They are welcome to it down at STN! R
268 GayrugbyMAN : Are FR suspending their MRS flights for the winter? Don't seem to be any bookable after the end of October.
269 GayrugbyMAN : British Airways are reducing frequency on the Manchester to Heathrow service from the winter timetable. Weekday frequency goes from 9 to 8 a day, Satu
270 MainMAN : What's significant about this is that at the weekend, KL offer more flights to AMS (Sat 5 Sun 6) as do AF to CDG (Sat 5 Sun 5).
271 Post contains links and images Oly720man : Just arrived as KU001, off in a couple of hours
272 Col : Wait while I shed a tear. Trying, trying, trying harder. Give me a minute, nope not happening, wait here it comes, Nope just a sneeze. For some reaso
273 Danfearn77 : Haha! Surely this just goes to show how naive BA are when it come to the regions. If KL and AF can justify this frequency then BA should take note. I
274 GT4EZY : Whilst I am not BA's biggest fan (mainly due to their policy on the regions) wasn't AMS once reputed to be the Bermuda Triangle of Europe in terms of
275 Post contains images JakTrax : Arrived 11:52, departed at just after 14:00 - the sun even shone for the departure!! Karl
276 Danfearn77 : I suppose i can only quote from my own experience and i have used AMS4-5 times a years for several years now. Albeit only a handful of flights were f
277 GT4EZY : The demand for LHR is certainly there and BA is only trying to satisfy that demand using a brand new terminal but on a very restricted airfield facil
278 Danfearn77 : Was driving under the airport tunnels today and saw a TCX A321 taking off on rwy 23R. It was only 17:30 and thought this was a bit odd. Was there an i
279 Danfearn77 : I flew KL to JFK in May and the whole thing was great, and got to the other end and my luggage was their waiting for me, rather than it still being i
280 Col : I cripple myself laughing at some of BA's decisions. The latest is this 757 transatlantic thingy flying into European hubs from JFK. That should work
281 Post contains links MainMAN : http://www.redorbit.com/news/busines...hicagobound_flight_forced_to_land/ And I quote...... WTF???!!!
282 David_itl : Typically Saturday afternoons sees only a couple of hours of dual runway operations, as it does get a bit dead. Let's hope we can soon see dual runwa
283 Danfearn77 : Thanks for that. Im used to single ops starting at around 20:30ish weekdays, but didnt know if this was still obeyed for weekends. I do now though, c
284 GayrugbyMAN : KU were actually looking at a KWI-MAN-JFK service only a couple of years ago. Maybe the visit of the Kuwaiti royals today might start the ball rolling
285 MainMAN : It wouldn't surprise if the MRS service was seasonal. One way fares were about £15 in May/June and they're now between £25 and £40. Not too good f
286 Danfearn77 : yeh i was going to say they were looking at doing something to MAN, but that was before the cost of oil spiralled. Hopefully something good can come
287 Post contains links MainMAN : How about this..... http://e-borneo.blogspot.com/2007/11...nei-uk-air-services-agreement.html or this http://www.bt.com.bn/en/home_news/20..._deal_le
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