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A New Seat Concept On AF Short-haul Network  
User currently offlineSSCAF001 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

From AF News Informations System (11JUN08) :

"End of 2009, Air France will launch on its short haul fleet a new seat concept in line with ist eco friendly policy. Specially designed for Air France, this new seat will significantly reduce the CO2 emissions thanks to a 25 pc lightening structure. On the whole short haul fleet, with 650 kgs less out of whole load on each aircraft, CO2 emissions will reduce by 8000 tons per year.
A brand new innovative seat that will bring more space and comfort for our travellers (more legroom).
For years Air France has striven to grow while at the same time respecting ist natural environment. As a result, control over the environmental impacts of its actvities is a key concern of the company and its partners (seat-makers)."

[Edited 2008-06-11 04:08:06]

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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3901 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2995 times:

Recaro slimline, lightweight seats, I would imagine. As seen on LH and LX. They will either leave the middle seat free in Business Class, like SWISS does, or have some sort of cocktail table which folds from the seatbacks, a la LH and DJ.

Brian.



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2926 times:
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I thought AF already had slimline seats in their aircraft...? I flew their A318 last summer and it was great and comfy, despite having 123-126(?) seats.


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User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2462 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

When is BA going to introduce these kind of seats? I have used LX lately and it is true that there is more space now in Economy. Espacially on those ARJs.


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User currently offlinePihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 4130 posts, RR: 76
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2614 times:
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Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 1):
They will either leave the middle seat free in Business Class, like SWISS does, or have some sort of cocktail table which folds from the seatbacks, a la LH and DJ.

Brian,
AF was the first airline to use that set-up. Everyone else foolowed these tracks.
Basically, there is no difference between J and Y seats : With a spanner, a mechanic would twitch the settings to allow for more back recline and push the row of seats in its rails to augment the legroom in J. then the middle seat is condemned and half of its back would fold as a middle table between the side seats.

[Edited 2008-06-11 05:33:38]


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User currently offlineEnginebird From United States of America, joined May 2007, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2402 times:



Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 3):
I have used LX lately and it is true that there is more space now in Economy.

Well, I was under the impression that they often use the space saved with the help of slim line seats to simply put in an extra row of seats in aircraft that allow such a reconfiguration. For LH this definitely seems to be the case.


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2117 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2326 times:



Quoting Enginebird (Reply 5):

Well, I was under the impression that they often use the space saved with the help of slim line seats to simply put in an extra row of seats in aircraft that allow such a reconfiguration. For LH this definitely seems to be the case.

LX has done tha as well, actually a few more rows. However the Avro's remained with the same amount of seats.So I can imagine that the pitch is 34+ on those planes now?


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