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CP Air NCL-YYZ In 1979 - Equipment?  
User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2595 posts, RR: 30
Posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2935 times:

I know CP Air used to route a DC-8 NCL (via PIK for fuel) to YYZ in 1979, but was wondering what series of DC-8 was generally used. They operated the -40, -50 and -60 series at the time, all of which apparently flew transatlantic.

If anyone knows which series was used to NCL in '79 I would be most grateful for the info.

Thanks!

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User currently offlineEdina From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 745 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2900 times:

Not sure about CP Air but Wardair operated a weekly DC10 YYZ-LPL-NCL-YYZ at around the same time.


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User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2741 times:

I think from looking at Airlinerlist.com that most of the -40s had been withdrawn by about 1980, so perhaps it was one of the handful of -50s they had in service (believe a -51, a -53, and a -54CF).


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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5003 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

My guess would be the DC-8-63, as it would appear to be the only DC-8 that CP operated in an all Y configuration, and NCL was a charter destination.

Of course that doesn't preclude the ever possible equipment substitution, then it's anyone's guess.



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User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2595 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

Thanks for the responses, guys. I agree that a D-8 63 would have been more likely due the full-Y config.

Edina - I wasn't born until 1979 so don't remember CP Air at NCL myself, but I do remember the Wardair DC-10s. I still have a photo of one taking off from NCL in 1985. Apparently on alternative weeks it used to be the DC-10 & B747 but I only saw the DC-10.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25457 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2356 times:



Quoting LongHauler (Reply 3):
My guess would be the DC-8-63, as it would appear to be the only DC-8 that CP operated in an all Y configuration, and NCL was a charter destination.

CP's DC-8-43s and sole -53 and -55F sometimes operated in all-Y configurations, especially on charters. However I would be fairly confident that by 1979 almost all UK charters using DC-8s would have used the -63.

Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 2):
I think from looking at Airlinerlist.com that most of the -40s had been withdrawn by about 1980, so perhaps it was one of the handful of -50s they had in service (believe a -51, a -53, and a -54CF).

The combi was a -55F not a -54F, purchased used from Douglas. It was sold in 1978. CP did operate a leased -51 (the very first DC-8 built) but that was only for a year in 1966-67.


User currently offlineIrish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 975 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

By 1979 I think that the only DC-8s in use on CP Air's T/A services would have been the -63 series. I always thought they looked terrific; most of the modern schemes are tame by comparison!

User currently offlineFlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1986 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

Hmm...I saw old CP advertisement somewhere on the internet or a book about flying to Gander. I am sure they would tell you about the type of aircraft.


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User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2186 times:



Quoting Irish251 (Reply 6):
By 1979 I think that the only DC-8s in use on CP Air's T/A services would have been the -63 series

That's not correct. There were numerous visits to UK airspace with DC8-43s during the summer of 1979. The last I logged was on Sept 29 1979 when I have CP807 logged as operated by C-FCPJ.

The liklihood is that the NCL flights were scheduled as DC8-63s but if loads were light a 43 could have been used.

I have none logged for 1980 UK flights but the 43s only started to leave the fleet in the Autumn of 1980, the last going in late 1981.


User currently offlineIrish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 975 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2170 times:

I bow to your superior knowledge on this matter, Phil!

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