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User currently offlineDl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

Delta has Air France, Northwest has KLM, American has British Airways, and United has Lufthansa. All work closely together on international routes, but who could Continental and US Airways make friends with?

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User currently offlineOta1 From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1708 times:
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Quoting Dl767captain (Thread starter):
Continental and US Airways make friends with?

US is close to UA, LH and LX but as UA is in talks with CO about creating a major alliance that could change

However CO is also tlaking to AA and BA so we'll have to wait and see what comes around


User currently offlineMutu From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

AA doesnt have BA. There is (sadly) no ATI so no TATL code sharing, revenue sharing, profit sharing, schedule co-ordination, earn and burn opportunities.

All there is are SOME code shares at each end, out of ORD, JFK, LHR, DFW in the main, as there are between many (even non aligned) carriers.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

AS used to have a big relationship with NW....until they started to codeshare with AA. The AS/NW codeshare was a huge, huge deal back when I was with AS. Now AS has codeshares like if there was no tomorrow.


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8752 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1640 times:
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Quoting Mutu (Reply 2):
AA doesnt have BA. There is (sadly) no ATI so no TATL code sharing, revenue sharing, profit sharing, schedule co-ordination, earn and burn opportunities.

Hopefully, this will change soon, given the implementation of the Opens Skies agreement.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4626 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

Qantas and British Airways.

They have a JSA (Joint Service Agreement) on the Kangaroo route between London and Sydney. Essentially they're allowed to set the same prices for their services and pool any profits between themselves.

This relationship goes back to 1934 when Imperial Airways and Qantas formed Qantas Empire Airways. Qantas then became owned by the Australian Government after the war, until privatisation in 1993 when British Airways took a 25% stake. Both airlines with others co-founded the oneworld alliance in 1998. BA sold its stake in 2004.

Throughout history the two airlines have had and continue to have very close ties. It's a great thing!



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8752 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1564 times:
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Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 5):

BOAC and BWIA used to have the same relationship in the 50's and 60's on their respective routes. Today, BW codeshares with BA from POS to BGI and LGW.


User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1544 times:



Quoting Mutu (Reply 2):
AA doesnt have BA. There is (sadly) no ATI so no TATL code sharing, revenue sharing, profit sharing, schedule co-ordination, earn and burn opportunities.

That's true. I see AA having a closer relationship with IB than BA



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User currently offlineFlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1985 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

VS is close to SQ...as you can see virgin atlantic logo in the SQ main website.


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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1319 times:



Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 8):
VS is close to SQ...as you can see virgin atlantic logo in the SQ main website.

This may have to do with a 49% share.

If we allow for this, the Lufthansa-Swiss relationship should count.


User currently offlineAdam T. From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1211 times:

I would also say that AA is pretty close in relationship with QF.

Quoting Ota1 (Reply 1):
US is close to UA, LH and LX

I definitely agree that US is close with UA and LH but i'm curious to your reasoning on them being so close with LX? I know they are all part of STAR but US is much close with UA and LH than any of the other STAR carriers in my opinion.


User currently offlineOta1 From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1199 times:
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Quoting Adam T. (Reply 10):
i'm curious to your reasoning on them being so close with LX?

They recently signed a major cooperation agreement.... furthermore LH ownes LX so basically being close to LH means being close to LX too


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