Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7825 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 2460 times:
After decades of Miami, New York and LAX, on and off, another AV city in the USA. Next BOS, ORD or SFO ? AV should fly to Canada and return to more of Europe, why they left CDG & FRA in 2001, I will never know.
RCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4328 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 2371 times:
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 2): AV should fly to Canada and return to more of Europe, why they left CDG & FRA in 2001, I will never know.
YYZ is a strong possibility in the mid term. AC has pakced loads on their flights, and there has been talk of a daily joint operation, with AC operating 4 flights and AV 3 flights per week.
Remeber AV quit those stations because of the deep financial crisis that Colombia went through in the late 90s, which made demand plummet. Then came 9/11. This crisis also affected the airline, which almost went under, if it hadn´t been for the creation of Alianza Summa.
They just didn´t quit Europe because they wanted. Remeber that LH also left because of the reduced demand. Now that demand is returning to past levels, there is interest again by the airlines to serve BOG-Europe.
Its a matter of A330 delivery times for the restart of AV´s past European destinations.
I really wish AV well on this new venture, as well as on the returning BOG-SDQ route, which started almost at the same time. With the price of fuel, you never know.
Does anyone have details of the flight? PAX count, arrival and departure times..
Danimarroquin From Colombia, joined Jan 2005, 447 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2140 times:
any pics of the IAD arrival ?
I think definately AV should look forward to YYZ because the Colombian community is big in Canada .
MCO is a very potential route , but with the introduction of jet blue to the route AV decided stay behind and see how Jetblue does well in the route . even tough , jet blue hasn't started MCO for their financial problems , so that I think should be the moment to AV do the service at least with a F-100 .
CDG LHR FRA and YYZ I'm pretty sure that all the new international flights will start soon with the arrival of the 2 A330 in SEP , and with the arrival of oceanair's 757 and 2 767 .
Q . is it possible for AV to fly BOG - SYD with the 787 or A 330 ? , or stopping at new Zealand like LAN or Aerolineas Argentinas ?
Quoting Danimarroquin (Reply 6): Q . is it possible for AV to fly BOG - SYD with the 787 or A 330 ? , or stopping at new Zealand like LAN or Aerolineas Argentinas ?
Why would Avianca fly to Australia ? Chile and Argentina are a nonstop flight to Sydney. Bogota to AKL would be the longest flight from BOG and beyond the capabilities of any plane I can think of given teh altitude BOG has.
Because they are very thin markets, far away from BOG, and with little O/D traffic for connections (i.e., large markets covered by non-stop flights).....only ORD has an advantage, which is the substantial Colombian community. But they are happy connecting in MIA and ATL, and couldnt fill an A319 every day.