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Outbound From US Passport Control And Immigrations  
User currently offlineUalva From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 14 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4611 times:

My friend just called me from Denver airport and said that he just boarded LH flight 447 to FRA and that if you were NOT a US citizen you were required to go through passport control with the immigration officers to leave the US.

He said he was asked three questions:
1. How long have you been in the US?
2. What was the purpose of your trip to the US?
3. How much cash do you have?

I travel in and out of the US multiple times per year (mostly IAD) and have never ever seen this or ever heard of this happening. Is this something new?

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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21590 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4591 times:



Quoting Ualva (Thread starter):
I travel in and out of the US multiple times per year (mostly IAD) and have never ever seen this or ever heard of this happening. Is this something new?

Are you a US citizen?



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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3716 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4536 times:

Non-US citizens must turn in their I-94/I-94W to the gate agent at the last US airport before their flight departs. Also, I think they can "check out" of the US by utilizing the US VISIT kiosks. If form or check out are not done, it may be harder for them to leave.

Once in a while, there are US CBP along the jetway that interview people boarding a highly sensitive flight. It happened to me once back in 2001 after 9-11 when I flew on EWR-HKG. I was asked the same questions, and I am a US citizen. Basically each passenger was escorted from the door along the jetway to the plane.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26173 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4481 times:

Based on GAO finding and Congressional mandate, the US is slowly beginning to implement outbound immigration controls.

The plans are for a multi tiered system where at some locations airlines will provide the check by swiping passenger passports at either checking or departure gates, while at other locations there will be physical USCBP personnel clearing outbound passengers.

Small trials of such inspections are taking place to identify the best methods to handle this both technology wise along with airport physical constraints. The US airline community however has been quite reluctant to take up the added responsability and potential cost involved.



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User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4358 times:

These sound like the questions that the Dept of Treasury people ask on departure sometimes - I've often had them on the jetway or at the gate. I've never heard them make an announcement stating that they only wanted to talk to non-US citizens though.

Just what we need - even more inconsistency by the US govt for travellers....  Yeah sure


User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4328 times:



Quoting Ualva (Thread starter):
I travel in and out of the US multiple times per year (mostly IAD) and have never ever seen this or ever heard of this happening. Is this something new?

As stated, there is no US Immigration Departure Control.

Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 2):
I think they can "check out" of the US by utilizing the US VISIT kiosks. If form or check out are not done, it may be harder for them to leave.

This program was discontinued about two years ago.

Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 2):
Once in a while, there are US CBP along the jetway that interview people boarding

This is more common and I would say this is what the person went through. Not all flights though.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Based on GAO finding and Congressional mandate, the US is slowly beginning to implement outbound immigration controls.

The plans are for a multi tiered system where at some locations airlines will provide the check by swiping passenger passports at either checking or departure gates, while at other locations there will be physical USCBP personnel clearing outbound passengers.

This is not implemented yet and CBP personnel will not be at clearing individuals. As stated, the Government is trying to make the air carriers responsible for collecting the departure data . There is still great resistance from the Airlines, meaning $$$.



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User currently offlineJustapassenger From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

A couple of years ago I had a very similar experience. As we boarded our MSP-NRT flight we were surprised by very large officers in the jetway. As I recall they interviewed everyone. I must say that the surprise presence of these great big officials blocking the jetway was intimidating, especially for my Indonesian wife and her sister.

They asked the same questions as mentioned above to everyone and I soon determined that they were interested in enforcing the law about taking $10K out of the country without prior approval?/notification? As a US citizen with a great deal of Washington, DC experience, I quickly noticed they were from the Bureau of Alcohol and Firearms Control and not immigration officials. I would not expect a non-citizen to notice that they weren’t immigration officials.


User currently offlineAA7295 From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4226 times:



Quoting Star_world (Reply 4):
These sound like the questions that the Dept of Treasury people ask on departure sometimes - I've often had them on the jetway or at the gate. I've never heard them make an announcement stating that they only wanted to talk to non-US citizens though.

Just what we need - even more inconsistency by the US govt for travellers....

Stop being SOOO Dramatic. Every single western country already has this. Why are taking the opportunity to swipe at the US government because they are implementing what already exists in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Singapore, China, Japan the list goes on....

Everyone of those countries that I have been to (and lived in) has outbound immigration (passport) controls. They ask the same questions that US government will.

I personally welcome it. I think its about time the US government created outbound immigration control. I think what should happen is the creation of one international terminal at each airport where every departing and arriving international flight must operated from. However given the sheer number of flights it might prove difficult, although if FRA, LHR, NRT can do it I don't see why not. Just requires substantial investment, which I am aware the airlines and airports don't have.


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