United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9440 posts, RR: 13 Posted (14 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2658 times:
I am sure some of you have heard rumours about UAL planning to get the B 777LRs with GE Engines. And they might start retiring the B 747-400s. Do you guys think it is true?
Of course I don't want this to happen as I love UAL's B 747-400s.
I personally don't think its anything valid. Why? Coz they are better off sticking with Pratt And Whitney Engines. Besides, their Pratt and Whitney B 777-200ERs serve them very well. It is costly to maintain two types of different engines.
Besides, United LOVES their B 747-400s and I strongly believe that they are going to stick with this product. Many of UAL's routes require the capacity of a B 747-400 rather than a B 777-200LR or even a B 777-300LR. For example: SFO-HKG, LAX-HKG, JFK-NRT etc etc. They need the B 747-400s. Some of you may argue that they need an aircraft with longer range. The B 747-400LR or the B 747X Stretch should be ideal for them.
Besides, their B 747-400s are pretty new. Their oldest B 747-400 is about 11 years old and I don't see them leaving anytime soon.
What do you guys think? Do you guys think the B 747-400s will be leaving anytime soon? Also, do you guys think UAL will be ordering B 777s with GE Engines?
ILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3142 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (14 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2593 times:
The 747s will not be leaving anytime soon. That is given. Regarding the rumor. I've heard it. It makes a lot off sence too. Why? This way UA would be one step closer to ordering the 772LR and the 773ER. They will not be re-engining their 777s. Thats for sure. PW are great engines, but GE makes good engines as well.
GE also offers a lot with their engines. UA would not be dissapointed if they go to GE.
United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9440 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (14 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2579 times:
I am sure UAL loves their B 747-400s. However, will they eventually be replaced by B777-200LRs or the B 777-300ER?
I don't think these two products can replace the B 747-400s as many of UAL's B 747-400s are full from time to time. I guess new B 747-400s, B 747-400LRs or even the B 747X Stretch will be used to replace their oldest B 747-400s in about 10 to 15 years time.
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2565 times:
United will not order the GE90 777-200LR &300ER. They will order the new 747X with P&W 4000 series engines like the rest of their wide-body fleet. After what happened at Sioux City (Flt 232), with one of their GE CF6 powered DC-10s they are sticking with P&W from now on.
Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (14 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2536 times:
Either way they are going to have to order a G.E. engine. Either they order the 777LR aircraft, with the GE 90, or they order the 747X/S with the GP7200, unless they choose the Trent 600 for this aircraft. You can't get the PW 4000 on the 747X (only the 747-400ER). In all likelihood, they will end up with both.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (14 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2470 times:
UA may not be adverse to buying the 777-200LR and 777-300ER with the GE90 engines.
The reason is simple: GE may be offering a warranty package on the GE90-110B/115B engines where GE will provide their own technicians on-site to help service the engines and also defray much of the costs of engine maintainance.
This is actually fairly normal GE practice: when the Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) railroad started ordering Dash 9-44CW locomotives from GE Transportation Systems, GE sent technicians to several BNSF locomotive service facilities to work full-time with BNSF's own locomotive maintainance force.
I won't be surprised that UA places an order for 20 772LR's and 15-20 773ER's some time in 2001.
Gerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (14 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 2424 times:
And who will pay for those engines? Remember, that GE has an exclusivity contract with Boeing for the B777X-Versions. I don't know, if any of the engine manufacturers made money with the 777 programm, as their competition was fierce.
Boeing can't offer a new long range 777 with PW engines, as they would break the agreement with GE.
So, chances are getting big, that UAL might get GE engines.
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