The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3310 times:
I haven't heard about this for a while. Last year, I read somewhere that Vietnam Airlines had applied to fly to LAX via KIX starting this coming winter (late Oct08).
Any more recent info on this ?
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Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21245 posts, RR: 19 Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3126 times:
I know NW wasn't happy about it, but besides their objection and VN's response there doesn't seem to have been any action on the application for 10 months.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2988 times:
Thanks for the response and the link.
We'll see what happens.
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Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21245 posts, RR: 19 Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2978 times:
ORDagent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2914 times:
VN will eventually come to U.S. Now that we are friendly again the link is needed if for no other reason than prestige for VN. KE, JL and company aren't going to be happy because they all offer decent connections to both SGN and HAN. The biggest issue now is the biggest issue of them all. The cost of fuel.
Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5983 posts, RR: 9 Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2633 times:
VN wants the rights to fly to the US via Japan yet will not give NWA the rights to fly to Vietnam via Japan. Seems like a fair trade to me. NWA already has the rights from the Japanese government, but not the Vietnam government.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21245 posts, RR: 19 Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2559 times:
Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 5): VN wants the rights to fly to the US via Japan yet will not give NWA the rights to fly to Vietnam via Japan.
Well, that's not entirely true. The Vietnamese government is more than happy to let NW fly via KIX but does not want them to fly via NRT.
[Edited 2008-06-15 10:17:09]
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DesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1389 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2399 times:
There is a huge Vietnamese population in California. Many Vietnamese visit family in Vietnam on a regular basis. This could be a money maker route for Vietnam Airlines.
Legacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1843 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2353 times:
Quoting DesertAir (Reply 8): There is a huge Vietnamese population in California. Many Vietnamese visit family in Vietnam on a regular basis. This could be a money maker route for Vietnam Airlines.
I really don't think a route like this would make a profit . Most of the tickets would be sold through consolidators and VFF is never a money maker. It as quoted that this flight would loose money for the first few years before possibly making a marginal profit. IMO
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21245 posts, RR: 19 Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2343 times:
Quoting Legacyins (Reply 9): Most of the tickets would be sold through consolidators and VFF is never a money maker.
LO would beg to differ.
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CXA330300 From South Africa, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 1500 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2312 times:
The application also lists Taiwan-perhaps a flight via TPE might work?
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LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22070 posts, RR: 51 Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2276 times:
Quoting Legacyins (Reply 9): Most of the tickets would be sold through consolidators and VFF is never a money maker.
Quite correct, and something United has found with its soon to be discontinued LAX-HKG flight.
UA easily can generate 100-150 daily connections to SGN via the huge Vietnamese community in Southern California, however all were a bottom basement consolidator fares with zero brand loyalty and simply flew whomever happens to be the cheapest, whether thats United, Cathay, EVA or others.
While the volume is good, with todays operating cost, the revenue generated does not go far to cover much.
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Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21245 posts, RR: 19 Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2266 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 12): While the volume is good, with todays operating cost, the revenue generated does not go far to cover much.
I assume, however, that VN has far lower costs than UA. I have no idea whether they are enough lower...
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Keeping NW out would help VN a lot...
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