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Vietnam Airlines To LAX?  
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6723 posts, RR: 55
Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4620 times:

I haven't heard about this for a while. Last year, I read somewhere that Vietnam Airlines had applied to fly to LAX via KIX starting this coming winter (late Oct08).

Any more recent info on this ?

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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23587 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4436 times:

I know NW wasn't happy about it, but besides their objection and VN's response there doesn't seem to have been any action on the application for 10 months.

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli...=DocketDetail&d=DOT-OST-2007-28950



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6723 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4298 times:

Thanks for the response and the link.

We'll see what happens.

The777Man



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23587 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4288 times:



Quoting The777Man (Reply 2):

We'll see what happens.

 checkmark Keeping NW out would help VN a lot...



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User currently offlineORDagent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4224 times:

VN will eventually come to U.S. Now that we are friendly again the link is needed if for no other reason than prestige for VN. KE, JL and company aren't going to be happy because they all offer decent connections to both SGN and HAN. The biggest issue now is the biggest issue of them all. The cost of fuel.

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6637 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3943 times:

VN wants the rights to fly to the US via Japan yet will not give NWA the rights to fly to Vietnam via Japan. Seems like a fair trade to me. NWA already has the rights from the Japanese government, but not the Vietnam government.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23587 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 5):
VN wants the rights to fly to the US via Japan yet will not give NWA the rights to fly to Vietnam via Japan.

Well, that's not entirely true. The Vietnamese government is more than happy to let NW fly via KIX but does not want them to fly via NRT.

[Edited 2008-06-15 10:17:09]


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User currently offlineSFO777200LR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

I know at some point, SFO was supposed to be VN's first U.S. destination. I'm sure that has since changed - unfortunately.

User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1499 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3709 times:

There is a huge Vietnamese population in California. Many Vietnamese visit family in Vietnam on a regular basis. This could be a money maker route for Vietnam Airlines.

User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3663 times:



Quoting DesertAir (Reply 8):
There is a huge Vietnamese population in California. Many Vietnamese visit family in Vietnam on a regular basis. This could be a money maker route for Vietnam Airlines.

I really don't think a route like this would make a profit . Most of the tickets would be sold through consolidators and VFF is never a money maker. It as quoted that this flight would loose money for the first few years before possibly making a marginal profit. IMO



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23587 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3653 times:



Quoting Legacyins (Reply 9):
Most of the tickets would be sold through consolidators and VFF is never a money maker.

LO would beg to differ.



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User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1572 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3622 times:

The application also lists Taiwan-perhaps a flight via TPE might work?


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26704 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3586 times:



Quoting Legacyins (Reply 9):
Most of the tickets would be sold through consolidators and VFF is never a money maker.

 checkmark  Quite correct, and something United has found with its soon to be discontinued LAX-HKG flight.

UA easily can generate 100-150 daily connections to SGN via the huge Vietnamese community in Southern California, however all were a bottom basement consolidator fares with zero brand loyalty and simply flew whomever happens to be the cheapest, whether thats United, Cathay, EVA or others.

While the volume is good, with todays operating cost, the revenue generated does not go far to cover much.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23587 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3576 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 12):
While the volume is good, with todays operating cost, the revenue generated does not go far to cover much.

I assume, however, that VN has far lower costs than UA. I have no idea whether they are enough lower...



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User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3466 times:



Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 11):
The application also lists Taiwan-perhaps a flight via TPE might work?

Well, they codeshare on CI flights from TPE to SFO and LAX, so I'd imagine they'd apply for 5th freedom.



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