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Delta Ending LAX-BOS/BDL  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32176 posts, RR: 72
Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9668 times:

Delta will end non-stop service from Los Angeles to Boston on August 18th and Hartford, the last surviving of the non-traditional trans-cons that Delta launched from LAX in 2006, on September 1st.

Also, not sure about exact dates or even exact cuts, but some LAX-Mexico flights are conflicting. OAG shows routes like LAX-MZT and LAX-BJX gone. LAX-MZT isn't bookable on Delta.com, but both are still on Delta's own schedules. So I guess those cuts, if any, will be sorted out soon.


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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4011 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9600 times:

This makes two, perhaps three, times that Delta started and then stopped transcon service out of Boston. At least for AA and UA, they won't have to worry about Delta coming back to try again.

User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9408 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Delta will end non-stop service from Los Angeles to Boston on August 18th and Hartford, the last surviving of the non-traditional trans-cons that Delta launched from LAX in 2006, on September 1st.

Also, not sure about exact dates or even exact cuts, but some LAX-Mexico flights are conflicting. OAG shows routes like LAX-MZT and LAX-BJX gone. LAX-MZT isn't bookable on Delta.com, but both are still on Delta's own schedules. So I guess those cuts, if any, will be sorted out soon.

Not surprised.



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User currently offlineRcardinale From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9292 times:

Too bad that these flights are going! Dl used to fly from BOS 2x daily SFO 2x daily LAX 1x daily LAS and now all of those flights are a thing of the past.

User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3452 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9039 times:



Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 1):
This makes two, perhaps three, times that Delta started and then stopped transcon service out of Boston. At least for AA and UA, they won't have to worry about Delta coming back to try again.

If or when fuel prices go down DL will be back on LAX-BDL/BOS and a few other discontinued routes. Both routes performed extremely well up until $130 a barrel oil, where many transcons simply don't provides the yields needed to sustain longer routes. UA and AA probably aren't making money on these either but both have a more vested interest in the BOS-LAX market. Unfortunately, from what I've heard from some industry "insiders" at this moment in time, there are very few routes among any of the airlines making solid profits with oil where it is. The industry is in its worst state in history and it's truly devastating what is currently happening. If oil keeps going higher look for a lot more flights to be cut and fleets to be grounded.

Jeremy


User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9020 times:

I am surprised that the BOS LAX route doesn't have high yield. I would have have thought that the biz traffic would have kept the route going. Obviously not.

Again -- it shows the need for fare to go up.

Dave



Can I have a mojito on this flight?
User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3406 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8870 times:

ouch - tough week for BDL. First CO drops IAH, now DL drops LAX. That same week, they lose DEN (and F9 service). I've heard rumors that BDL-RDU and/or STL on Eagle could go away as well. At least they salvaged the AA SJU cuts.

Master of the obvious comment: Rising fuel is absolutely killing our industry...

blah.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21415 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8848 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Delta will end non-stop service from Los Angeles to Boston on August 18th and Hartford, the last surviving of the non-traditional trans-cons that Delta launched from LAX in 2006, on September 1st.

I was wondering about this, because I tried looking them up on Travelocity, and they didn't show up as non-stops. But not from Sep1, in July, so is that Sep date confirmed?



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32176 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8793 times:



Quoting Davescj (Reply 5):
I am surprised that the BOS LAX route doesn't have high yield. I would have have thought that the biz traffic would have kept the route going. Obviously not.

JetBlue has absolutely killed the yields on Boston-California. BOS-LAX will be down to only five daily flights this fall, less than routes like MIA-LAX and PHL-LAX.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
so is that Sep date confirmed?

At least in GDS systems, the route is showing until September 1st. It doesn't operate daily, IIRC, so you might have just chosen dates it does not operate.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8868 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8781 times:



Quoting Davescj (Reply 5):
I am surprised that the BOS LAX route doesn't have high yield. I would have have thought that the biz traffic would have kept the route going. Obviously not.

Not to mention that DL's flight schedules were relatively paltry compared to UA and AA on the BOS-LAX route, plus B6 on BOS-LGB. One daily flight against multiple frequencies (especially when the return is a red-eye) won't hold up all that well.


User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8648 times:



Quoting Davescj (Reply 5):
I am surprised that the BOS LAX route doesn't have high yield. I would have have thought that the biz traffic would have kept the route going. Obviously not.

Los Angeles to Boston still has high yield in the premium cabins with the incumbent legacy airlines - American and United Airlines. The lower yield passengers which were aided greatly with the entry of JetBlue on the LGB-BOS routes as MAH4546 very well stated are obviously not attracted to a once per day service as in the case of Delta Air Lines. Los Angeles to Boston is a competitive market. One flight per day operated as a red-eye is not going to make it. The Los Angeles to Boston market is a business driven route that is aided by the tourist. It has been said time and time again that a business person (high yield), is not going to be attracted to once per day or a few times per week route.

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Delta will end non-stop service from Los Angeles to Boston on August 18th and Hartford, the last surviving of the non-traditional trans-cons that Delta launched from LAX in 2006, on September 1st.

What is left of the recent Delta Air Lines Los Angeles buildup? It seems a few times a month I have read that Delta Air Lines is not doing well on its recent Los Angeles build up. I have even been looking through some old threads on the topic. It seems there was a lot of optimism based on the stated large Skymiles presence in the Los Angeles market. There were a few other threads that I researched that people seemed sure that Delta Air Lines was going to wipe the floor clean, add routes like LAX-HKG & SYD, along with using the 767-300 to Japan. I guess not even the optimism has helped Delta Air Lines with their attempted Los Angeles buildup.I am starting to wonder if Los Angeles was an ill timed expansion, or an expansion with not enough thought put into the market factors.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32176 posts, RR: 72
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8624 times:

Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 10):
What is left of the recent Delta Air Lines Los Angeles buildup?

Mainline (routes in bold were not part of the original build up):

Acapulco
Anchorage
Atlanta
Cancún
Cincinnati
Guadalajara

Guatemala City
Honolulu
Kahului/Maui

Kona
Liberia
Lihue
New Orleans
New York-JFK
Orlando
Puerto Vallarta
Salt Lake City
Tampa


Operated at-risk by ExpressJet:

Boise
Culiacán
Denver
Eugene
La Paz
Las Vegas
León
Loreto
Mazatlán
Manzanillo
Oakland
Phoenix
Portland
Reno
Sacramento
San Francisco
San Jose
Seattle/Tacoma
Spokane
Torreón
Tucson
Zacatecas

Discontinued:

Belize City
Boston
Columbus
Cozumel
Fort Lauderdale

Hartford
Hermosillo
Ixtapa
Jacksonville
Los Mochis
Managua
McAllen
Oklahoma City
Palm Springs
Raleigh
Tijuana
Vancouver
Washington-Dulles (announced, never started)
Wichita

[Edited 2008-06-14 11:58:52]


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User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8616 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
Mainline:

Acapulco
Anchorage
Atlanta
Cancún
Cincinnati
Guadalajara
Guatemala City
Honolulu
Kahului/Maui
Kona
Liberia
Lihue
New Orleans
New York-JFK
Orlando
Puerto Vallarta
Salt Lake City
Tampa

ACA, ANC, ATL, BOS, CVG, FLL, GDL, HNL, OGG, JFK, MCO, SLC, and TPA were flown before the buildup werent they?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32176 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8598 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 12):
ACA, ANC, ATL, BOS, CVG, FLL, GDL, HNL, OGG, JFK, MCO, SLC, and TPA were flown before the buildup werent they?

ANC was not, the rest were.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24320 posts, RR: 47
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8598 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 10):
What is left of the recent Delta Air Lines Los Angeles buildup?

Getting smaller and smaller

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
Operated at-risk by ExpressJet:

All of which Expressjet recently stated were under review, and could get the axe.


At the end of the day, the magical LA focus was a big waste of time (and $$) for DL  Yeah sure



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32176 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8589 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 14):

All of which Expressjet recently stated were under review, and could get the axe.

 checkmark 

Once Expressjet finalizes their fleet plans with CO this fall, I expect they will be mostly (all?) cut. DL could bring in Skywest to replace some of them, but who knows.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21415 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8579 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8):
At least in GDS systems, the route is showing until September 1st. It doesn't operate daily, IIRC, so you might have just chosen dates it does not operate.

Probably it.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
ANC was not, the rest were.

So basically, the build up was a bust...

Where is WorldTraveler saying how poorly DL is run to let this happen?  Wink



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24320 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8554 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
ANC was not,

ANC had been previously tried circa late 90s during the summer with 757s. But indeed not a core LAX route.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 16):
So basically, the build up was a bust...

It was a good dart throwing exercise for someone in ATL.  blockhead 

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 16):
Where is WorldTraveler saying how poorly DL is run to let this happen?

I suspect the argument will be along the lines the new DL/NW will continue to make LAX its West Coast focus, regardless of the fact they two marginal carriers in the market joining wont make things any better.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8518 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 17):
ANC had been previously tried circa late 90s during the summer with 757s

And before that, L1011-500's doing the LAX-ANC-HKG service.



Next trip: MSY-SEA-GEG-SEA-LWS-BOI-PDX-SEA-LAS on AS
User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8519 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 14):
At the end of the day, the magical LA focus was a big waste of time (and $$) for DL

A friend of mine who works at LAX was saying that the general feeling when the buildup was announced was Delta Air Lines was trying to make a show for the brass at LAWA. He also remarked that the choice of destinations looked as if "someone threw them on a wall to see what would stick". I am seriously thanking him for that comment as it seems not much is sticking, besides the incumbent routes, which appear to be taking a hit, and the ExpressJet flying which has been addressed is "at risk" and "under review"

You might find these reads interesting about the hopes last year for the LAX buildup

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3551530

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3397845

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3311103


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21415 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8503 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
Mainline (routes in bold were not part of the original build up):

New Orleans was cut after Katrina, IIRC, and then added back during the "build up" which is like saying every other carrier who did the same from all over the country was "building up" the departure airport.

I think keeping Kona and Lihue might be hard for DL, in the face of UA and AA being stronger to the islands.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21415 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8501 times:

Just to be clear, I don't WANT those routes to go. Now that I'm moving my flying to DL due to CO's cuts, I want as many routes out of LAX as I can get!

My DL credit card was approved and comes next week, so identity thieves need to start camping out at my mailbox.  Smile



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16691 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8477 times:

Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 19):
You might find these reads interesting about the hopes last year for the LAX buildup

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3551530

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3397845

href="http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3311103
" target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...11103

Thanks, puts things in perspective. Especially all the proclamations by certain Deltoids about how LAX was going to be their West Coast JFK.

[Edited 2008-06-14 12:25:05]


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21415 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8469 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 19):
A friend of mine who works at LAX was saying that the general feeling when the buildup was announced was Delta Air Lines was trying to make a show for the brass at LAWA

Well, yeah. They didn't want to get kicked out of their terminal, and it seems to have worked. And now with the NW merger pending, the T5 location seems secure.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32176 posts, RR: 72
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8460 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):

New Orleans was cut after Katrina, IIRC, and then added back during the "build up" which is like saying every other carrier who did the same from all over the country was "building up" the departure airport.

It was operated in the past, but it did not operate right before Katrina. I believe it last operated in the late 1990s.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):
I think keeping Kona and Lihue might be hard for DL, in the face of UA and AA being stronger to the islands.

Agreed, especially following this quote from Delta's CEO in Friday's AJC:

"[Cuts are] going to particularly hit markets like Orlando, Hawaii, Las Vegas — those kinds of leisure markets where people want to travel for $200 round-trip fares, and those fares don't work anymore."



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25 DeltaL1011man : That would be my guess. If The flights are working but Exjet needs the planes for CO I think DL will try to get OO to move in.......maybe with some C
26 MSYtristar : Yes sir, that's correct. It last operated in 1997 with 72S aircraft.
27 Ikramerica : The only saving grace may be that Lihue and KOA have a lot of residential condo type customers, who have more money than the HNL vacationer. Kauai an
28 Lambert747 : Some points from the threads: ~ LAX was going to have the 767-300 with winglets flying nonstop to Korea, Japan, and the northern provinces in China ~
29 DeltaL1011man : (sad thing is that you missed that he ment a Delta gateway.) (Rolls eyes and walks away) True. Many have worked some haven't JAX,FLL,BDL and BOS.....
30 MastaHanky : My favorite was that we'll see LAX-SCL and LAX-GRU in the next two years.
31 DeltaL1011man : SCL i don't know about but LAX is Delta's second largest hub to Latin America so I can see it. My guess is that if DL can get 7 more weekly flights t
32 Ikramerica : Would be nice! I'd fly it.
33 Lambert747 : What is interesting is routes that were in place before the buildup are being cut. As MAH4546 has addressed in detail if you look at all of the route
34 MAH4546 : Come one, you're a smart guy, I know you can do simple math. Of the 11 mainline routes that Delta launched during the "great build up", 7 of them (th
35 Jetlanta : That some of you don't understand how the rise in fuel prices has impacted any plans that Delta may have had at LAX (at least in the near term) just a
36 MAH4546 : Everybody's noticing. This thread is about Delta's cut, not United's or American's. Nice try putting the Expressjet flying in the Delta counts, thoug
37 Lambert747 : How many destinations has United Airlines and United Eexpress eliminated from Los Angeles in the past 12 months? How many destinations has American A
38 Jetlanta : No, everybody is NOT noticing. The childish gloating on this thread is ridiculous. I'm not talking about you. You know who I am talking about. Delta
39 Lono : So we have all heard how DL's buildup was going to be a gigantic success in LAX.... Some of us remember when LAX was a proven hub for DL when they mer
40 Sxf24 : They had plenty of people to fill a 737, or even a 757. However, none of those people would pay enough to make the route successful.
41 Bobnwa : All four of the carriers you mentioned are losing money at LAX operationally as well as system wide operationally. One is making money because of ext
42 Lambert747 : All airlines are facing the cost of soaring fuel, it is nothing unique to Delta Air Lines. There has been a trend I am noticing in threads relating t
43 Viscount724 : Are you sure the U.S.-Brazil bilateral permits codesharing on a 5th freedom service? I would be inclined to doubt it but I'm not certain. If it was p
44 Lambert747 : Where can we find the information that LAX in particular is losing money operationally? It would be interesting to see how Los Angeles operations fai
45 MAH4546 : No, I do not know the details, but I very vaguely remember that AA used to codeshare with JAL on JFK-GRU, but I am not positive. Same reason they nev
46 DLflynhayn : Your kinda right!and kinda wrong! if your saying that because we never flew it year around then ok! But DL has been on that route atleast seasonal i
47 MAH4546 : I really can't understand what you are saying since you aren't using periods, commas, and the like, but if you are trying to say that ANC was not a n
48 B752os : And what do PHL and MIA have in common? They are both hubs ad get a good amount of feed traffic. PHL much less than MIA which suvives the levels of f
49 MAH4546 : You always love to say that, yet you ignore that AA's Miami operation has historically operated at around 60% O&D, being more O&D dependent than US A
50 DLflynhayn : Been with DL on the ramp since the early 90's,and i can tell you we flew seasonal throught out the 90's.I believe it was cut like everything else aft
51 Skibum9 : Lambert, you raise a very good point. I would argue that the perks of being a Skymiles member, or any other FF program, has been so marginalized over
52 Lono : Ummmm yes but not losing money due to being unable to compete in LAX like DL... but due to fuel.... IMO... DL has a proven track record of failure in
53 B752OS : That point still doesn't dismiss the fact that without connecting traffic, MIA-LAX would not see 8 x daily flights. Let's look at the numbers, MIA-LA
54 MAH4546 : Yes, you are wrong. Everyday US Airways carries 716 daily O&D passengers between Los Angeles and Philadelphia while American carries 831 passengers b
55 DLflynhayn : Yup as much as i hate hearing that everytime you are correct! Two words RON ALLEN!! that is why they failed LAX!
56 B752OS : Faremeasure to the rescue for you. You are indeed correct, but my original point still stands, without the connects, MIA-LAX would not have the numbe
57 Post contains links MAH4546 : It could easily support five daily flights on its own. Back when fuel was cheap, FLL-LAX, which isn't the best yielding of markets, had seven daily f
58 B752OS : I didn't say if for MIA, I have read articles and blogs, like the one you posted and knew MIA-LAX was coming. Do you think people who woul have norma
59 Jacobin777 : It's affected everyone's plans, even most 2-year olds can figure it out. The fact of the matter is DL has tried their expansion plans at LAX for the
60 MAH4546 : Yes. Back in the early 2000s, when FLL only had one daily on AA, FLL had about 35% of the O&D market. When FLL had 7 dailies, FLL was at around 65%.
61 DeltaL1011man : I agree and alot has to do with the fact US-Brazil is very very hard to get. (And DL codeshares with KE on the route) Thanks and yes I can..........H
62 MAH4546 : Some were dropped when oil was $90. When the Jacksonville route was announced discontinued back in September, I was still paying $2.99/gal for premiu
63 DeltaL1011man : I think BDL,SEA (mainline), LAS (mainline), RDU,JAX and they will give IAD a try. (along with BOS and FLL) will all be back.
64 Ikramerica : I don't know about that. I think you could see palm springs, IAD, Hartford and Columbus returning if the fuel were back at $60-70.
65 MAH4546 : I don't think they will be, but you are correct that it is not entirely impossible. If Delta wants to rebuild LAX for the 19th time, then they are lo
66 Cubsrule : DL thought that a good chunk of the JAX-LAX traffic it connected over ATL would move over to the nonstop regardless of the schedule. DL thought wrong
67 ThreeIfByAir : I don't recall DL mainline metal ever running SEA-LAX, at least not in recent memory. It was 50-seat RJs when DL was advertising the route as "new" i
68 Lono : I seem to remember DL metal on this route for a summer then they switched to RJ's that fall...
69 Bobnwa : If you are losing money, does it matter what the reason is? Every carrier in the LAX market is losing money except WN. So you recommend that DL keep
70 DeltaL1011man : sometimes You have to lose money to male money. If Delta would get the hub back to the WA days (like Gerry was trying to do) Then they would be makin
71 Bobnwa : How do you know this? What would you do in LAX that none of the airline CEO's are unable to do that would insure this profit? I'm sure the MBA course
72 Modesto2 : DL was using a few ExpressJet RJ flights and a daily mainline flight between LAX and SEA in the 2007 summer. They also had a mainline flight between
73 DeltaL1011man : Because they where making money in the good old days. If they would use more mainline planes and not 50-seaters then I think DL (or anyone for the ma
74 Lambert747 : I fully agree! The Delta Air Lines Los Angeles "resurrection" if you will was not planned out thoroughly. Delta Air Line has instead relied heavily o
75 Miaami : I thought CMH-LAX still operated. Did they discontinue the CMH-LAX nonstop too?
76 Post contains links Lambert747 : Yes, here is the link: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...tories/2008/02/18/skybus_drop.html
77 DeltaL1011man : If DL wants to keep Xjet there thats fine. Say PDX-LAX 2x ERJ 1-2x 738. Also some props are needed for intra-Californa flights. Q400s, Q300s Saabs fr
78 Lono : DL was losing money and was cutting LAX before the current cost of oil problem... I have a few DL friends who worked in LAX for years saying they cou
79 MAH4546 : Again, the cuts started before today's oil prices. The cuts were starting last summer when oil was still $75 and some airlines were reporting profits
80 Bobnwa : Exactly and that was well before Anderson arrived on the scene.
81 DeltaL1011man : Very few routes where cut under Gerry. JAX was a failed but most routes got cut at the 100+ dollar mark. (plus I was talking more like back in WA day
82 Bobnwa : The point was made that DL was losing money in LAX well before Anderson arrived on the scene. Not when the routes were cut. Still wondering what yopu
83 Lono : Historically DL management would not listen to the employees in the effected city.... So I think a good plan for the "New" DL would be to listen to t
84 Lambert747 : Please see below. Many of these cuts happened long before $130 barrels of oil. It is hear say, however since most of the cuts started in/around Janua
85 Post contains links Srbmod : Please continue the discussion here: Delta Route Cuts 2008 This is so to keep all route cuts in one thread instead of multiple threads.
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