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Cape Air To Start Focus City At ALB.  
User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3058 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

Cape Air will begin ops at ALB to Watertown, Massena, and Ogdensburg on Sept. 16th.

Flights will probably operate from the vacant lower level commuter terminal.


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User currently offlineRcardinale From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4549 times:

Wow that was a surprise. These routes were routes formerly flown by Big Sky. Hopefully Cape Air will be able to turn a profit here and maybe even connect some of these cities to BOS in the future

User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4438 times:

Why not just connect those cities with BOS instead?

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4439 times:

Didn't Commutair have a large ALB operating on Beech 1900 that flopped? I wonder if we could see routes like ALB-BUF and ALB-BTV return on Cessnas operated by Cape.

-A



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4942 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4427 times:



Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):


Cape Air will begin ops at ALB to Watertown, Massena, and Ogdensburg on Sept. 16th.

There won't be any ALB-BOS flight? Only US flies this route, and unless I get a job with them at ALB, which I guess wouldn't be impossible, I'd have to take the train to get to BOS because US is way too expensive.



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4375 times:
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We need a Cape Air-like airline up here in the Northwest. Although, we do have Kenmore Air Express.

User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4275 times:
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Whatever happened to the plan to serve Astoria,OR (AST) and Newport,OR (ONP) from Portland,OR (PDX)? I thought ONP rec'd some of the scasd money for this?


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User currently offlineP3Orion From United States of America, joined May 2006, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4137 times:



Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 3):
Didn't Commutair have a large ALB operating on Beech 1900 that flopped?

When I worked at ALB ATCT/TRACON ('01-'05), we were told that Commutair's "Microhub" was fairly successful.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4110 times:

I could see either 9K or B6 entering ALB, although it is probably going to be the former. I think we could see B6 start ALB-JFK, as it has been rumored for a while. It would give Upstate New Yorkers another option. I wonder if we'll also see ALB-Plattsburgh or Saranac Lake. It's good to see 9K expanding.


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User currently offlineKstateinALB From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4080 times:

What interesting news! Not expected at all.

Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
Cape Air will begin ops at ALB to Watertown, Massena, and Ogdensburg on Sept. 16th

9K should do somewhat well on these routes. Watertown was not successful with a B1900, however, nine seaters should work well.

Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
Flights will probably operate from the vacant lower level commuter terminal.

Good call, that would be my guess. A1a or B concourse commuter.

Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
These routes were routes formerly flown by Big Sky.

AFAIK, it was only Watertown for Big Sky, and not the other two.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 8):
I could see either 9K or B6 entering ALB, although it is probably going to be the former.

Well, 9K is obviously entering. However, B6 is interesting. If they do enter, I honestly think they shouldn't worry about JFK as much. I think you can focus on cities such as MCO, or FLL. Even IAD would be a good competition with UA, obviously UA would need to try and compete somewhat with them.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 8):
I think we could see B6 start ALB-JFK, as it has been rumored for a while

I have an issue with it. You put way too many seats on that route if B6 comes in. DL puts down five flights a day on 50 seaters, and they, as I have heard, have gone out with some great loads. Now, loads dont mean anything, but it does tell you something. If B6 comes in and puts on E190s on the route, how successful is it going to be? I think not as well as a Florida route or even IAD.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 8):
I wonder if we'll also see ALB-Plattsburgh or Saranac Lake. It's good to see 9K expanding.

I'd guess them next, and maybe even SYR, BTV, Rutland, and BDL.



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User currently offlineBelizexp From Belize, joined Dec 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4022 times:



Quoting KstateinALB (Reply 9):
AFAIK, it was only Watertown for Big Sky, and not the other two.

Big Sky did service Massena, and Ogdensburg via BOS



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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3058 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3968 times:



Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 3):
Didn't Commutair have a large ALB operating on Beech 1900 that flopped? I wonder if we could see routes like ALB-BUF and ALB-BTV return on Cessnas operated by Cape.

Commutair flew to Allentown, Bangor, Binghamton, Boston, Buffalo, Burlington, Elmira, Portland, Harrisburg, Nantucket, Scranton, La Guardia, Islip, Hartford, White Plains, Manchester, Providence, Syracuse,Scranton Rochester, Lake Placid, Montreal, Ottawa, and Plattsburgh

Quoting San747 (Reply 4):
There won't be any ALB-BOS flight? Only US flies this route, and unless I get a job with them at ALB, which I guess wouldn't be impossible, I'd have to take the train to get to BOS because US is way too expensive.

NOOOOOOOOOO, don' t take the train, its like five hours on the Lake Shore Limited. Drive its like two hours.

Quoting P3Orion (Reply 7):
When I worked at ALB ATCT/TRACON ('01-'05), we were told that Commutair's "Microhub" was fairly successful.

most routes were succesful.

As for B6, I can see them flying to MCO,FLL,IAD,TPA,PBI, and MAYBE BOS.(They might make it work)



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4942 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3957 times:



Quoting USAirALB (Reply 11):

NOOOOOOOOOO, don' t take the train, its like five hours on the Lake Shore Limited. Drive its like two hours.

True, but when I start at SUNY this fall, I might not have a car... Otherwise, hell yeah, I'd drive.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3907 times:



Quoting KstateinALB (Reply 9):
Well, 9K is obviously entering. However, B6 is interesting. If they do enter, I honestly think they shouldn't worry about JFK as much. I think you can focus on cities such as MCO, or FLL. Even IAD would be a good competition with UA, obviously UA would need to try and compete somewhat with them.

I meant BOS-ALB. B6 would probably fly to JFK because of their hub. BOS may be possible, but it's only a three hour drive and it is out of your way for connections (unless you're going to Europe, and EI and LH don't feed their pax through BOS yet).



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User currently offlineKstateinALB From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3889 times:



Quoting Belizexp (Reply 10):
Big Sky did service Massena, and Ogdensburg via BOS

My fault, I was talking about ALB-Ogdensburg/Massena. I knew that they went via BOS, but thanks for the realization.  Smile

Quoting San747 (Reply 12):
True, but when I start at SUNY this fall, I might not have a car... Otherwise, hell yeah, I'd drive.

Yeah, take the train. It's I think the easiest way, aside from jet service, especially if you hit traffic on Mass Pike.
Ah yes, good luck at SUNY as well.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 13):
BOS may be possible, but it's only a three hour drive and it is out of your way for connections

The last part of what you said sums it all. Really, whats the point of not just going to JFK to connect domestically or internationally.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3863 times:



Quoting KstateinALB (Reply 9):
BDL.

Sweet, maybe US and their 400 dollar fares will go down.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3834 times:



Quoting San747 (Reply 12):

True, but when I start at SUNY this fall, I might not have a car... Otherwise, hell yeah, I'd drive.

Take the bus then - Peter Pan is pretty reliable and there's several buses a day that are faster than Amtrak (keep in mind Amtrak is frequently delayed on Albany-Boston since it's got to wait for the connection to come in from Chicago - and the Lake Shore Limited can have some nasty delays...)


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3821 times:



Quoting San747 (Reply 12):
True, but when I start at SUNY this fal

SUNY at Hudson Valley?



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3815 times:



Quoting USAirALB (Reply 11):
its like five hours on the Lake Shore Limited

You mean the Late Fo'Sure Limited.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3808 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 16):
and the Lake Shore Limited can have some nasty delays

Some people jokingly refer to it as the "Late For Sure Limited" because it doesn't run on time. If I were you, I'd take Peter Pan (though you have to switch in Springfield) or Greyhound. They stop at Worcester and Newton (Riverside, Green D Line), so if you run into traffic you can switch, although the Framingham stop is nowhere near the train station.

Quoting KstateinALB (Reply 9):
I'd guess them next, and maybe even SYR, BTV, Rutland, and BDL.

Rutland is possible, but the other three are unlikely. Aside from BOS they stay away from the non-EAS airports.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3805 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 19):
Peter Pan (though you have to switch in Springfield)

Such a GREAT location too  sarcastic 


I live in Chicopee, god I hate Springfield  Wink



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3724 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 19):
Some people jokingly refer to it as the "Late For Sure Limited"



Quoting Boston92 (Reply 18):
You mean the Late Fo'Sure Limited.

I have taken it two times (both the entire Boston to Chicago trip), and one was early, and the other was 5 or so minutes late. But it is common for it to be a good 50-200 minutes late, which would suck.



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4942 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3723 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 17):

SUNY at Hudson Valley?

SUNY Albany, aka the University at Albany.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3706 times:



Quoting San747 (Reply 22):
SUNY Albany, aka the University at Albany.

Heh cool. I'll be (hopefully) over at Hudson valley.



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4942 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3666 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 23):

Heh cool. I'll be (hopefully) over at Hudson valley.

Sweet. I'm quite familiar with that campus, having over the last few summers helped out at a summer children's theatre workshop at HVCC.



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25 BOStonsox : I wonder what is taking the B6 codeshare on BOS-PBG/SLK so long.
26 Teneriffe77 : The one problem with the bus is that you can't get up and walk around. I go between syracuse and buffalo once a year and always take the train because
27 Nbgskygod : 9K is already operating out of Rutland to Boston. They have been in talks with the folks up here at Lebanon as well about starting a LEB - BOS flight
28 BatonOps : What about ITH or ELM to ALB???
29 Cs03 : Long ago, when we had Precision at RUT, they operated some routes that are the subject of this thread. In 1988/89 they operated ALB/RUT as well as RUT
30 UN_B732 : Didn't Commutair fly ALB-RUT-LEB at one point? I always wanted to catch that RUT-LEB segment before it got dropped. -A
31 BatonOps : I think it was ALB-RUT. I don't believe Commutair ever flew to LEB. USAirways Express to LGA has been the only carrier at LEB for a while now.
32 Cadet57 : First flight of the 328 wasnt until 1991. Do you mean the Do228?
33 Cs03 : Yes, a Do 228. I believe also that the Commutair service was ALB/RUT only.
34 BOStonsox : That doesn't sound too farfetched. I knew that they were flying RUT-BOS, which is why I thought ALB-RUT was possible. As for LEB, I think it can happ
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