Csavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1428 posts, RR: 4 Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8027 times:
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An AA flight I took to SFO two weeks ago had three spots of chop. The first spot, the pilot got on and said in pilotly drawl * about some chop. The other two times there was a recorded announcement along the lines. "The captain has turned on the seat belt sign. please return to your seats, yadda, yadda, yadda..."
And yes it was recorded, you can tell. Also the two announcements sounded exactly the same.)
Now I've had automated safety briefings innumerable times, but I have never had an automated fasten seatbelt announcement in mid-flight.
* Why do all pilots in the US have that pilotly drawl? Where are the captains from Dah Bronx? Brooklyn? South Boston? (I would love to hear that - "Sorry, folks, we ah waiting faw a gate so we can pahk the plane. Just a few maw minutes")
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Flyhi From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7984 times:
Monarch Airlines in the UK has an automatic recorded announcement on their A300. It comes on automatically as soon as the flight deck turn on the fasten seat-belt sign in the cabin. Cabin crew have to make a dash to the front galley to turn the announcement off before it proceeds to make announcements in a series of other languages.
I have also heard an automatic announcement to extinguish cigarettes when the no-smoking sign is turned on. This happened when the flight deck came on-board once and the no-smoking sign was not turned on. Of course, smoking has not been allowed on-board for a long time and this sign is normally left on permanently.
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 22174 posts, RR: 63
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7869 times:
Quoting Csavel (Thread starter): Now I've had automated safety briefings innumerable times, but I have never had an automated fasten seatbelt announcement in mid-flight.
I've had them. I even had them aboard an Air Austral MD80 from EZE to USU back in the late '90's. They're especially useful in environments where the cabin crew may not speak the set of languages that the pax on the flight need. For example, AA serves a large Latino population, even on domestic service. You can't have a Spanish-Speaking F/A on each flight. So the automated announcements can be a godsend.
Some Continental 73s have them as well (I know I've heard it on some of my 738 flights, I'm not sure about the 73Gs or 739s. For some reason I can't put my finger on, I really dislike them and I'm glad it's not in use on all flights.
On a couple flights, it seemed like the FAs were "running for the PA" and cut off the automated accouncement -- you'd here the recorded "(Ding) Ladies and Gentle..." followed by another ding and the purser making the "Sit down, buckle up you idiot" announcement
Now my question is is this something the captain has control over or if an aircraft is equipped with this 'feature' there's no way to turn it off? Based on how relatively rarely I've hear it, it either seems like a small portion of the fleet is equipped ot it spends a lot of time in the off position
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5): You can't have a Spanish-Speaking F/A on each flight. So the automated announcements can be a godsend.
Off topic, but I can't imagine that Bilingual English/Spanish is that hard to come by especially in the southern part of the US, I know in High School, for example, 80% of my class was learning Spanish, and I think an even higher percentage when I was at college... And what if the non-English or limited-English passenger needs assistance besides fastening their seatbelt?
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DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 22174 posts, RR: 63
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7798 times:
Quoting Lincoln (Reply 6): Off topic, but I can't imagine that Bilingual English/Spanish is that hard to come by especially in the southern part of the US, I know in High School, for example, 80% of my class was learning Spanish, and I think an even higher percentage when I was at college... And what if the non-English or limited-English passenger needs assistance besides fastening their seatbelt?
High school Spanish (or any other language) is hardly enough to get you by in that language. To truly learn a language, you need immersion and regular use.
Andz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8549 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7786 times:
SAA have recorded messages but they don't seem to be automated. The senior F/A will make an announcement about the flight number, the Captain's name, and the routing then the recorded voice will carry on. At the start of descent there is another message, then on final, and again after landing. This does not apply to all flights though, it seems to be used in inverse proportion to the quality of the diction of the senior F/A.
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Hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2208 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7728 times:
Heck,,,,the original NA had them on the 727 fleet on a rotary selector knob by 1L door....remember they used them to play the 'abeam' game...guess what time the flight would pass a certain waypoint and win a bag of oranges. One flight the captain came thru and gave the winning time before reaching the waypoint and everyone won..except one yokel who firmly believed the captain was trying to have no one win....dummy.
Sac From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 99 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7715 times:
At CO we have them on the 752 fleet, AVOD 777's. On the 764, 762, and non AVOD 777 we have a prerecorded announcement, but has to be programed and manually played each time. Not sure about the 737 fleet.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 22491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7484 times:
Quoting Lincoln (Reply 6): Some Continental 73s have them as well (I know I've heard it on some of my 738 flights, I'm not sure about the 73Gs or 739s. For some reason I can't put my finger on, I really dislike them and I'm glad it's not in use on all flights.
Yeah, I can't stand them. So much less personal than an actual human being getting on the PA. I understand them for other languages, but to have them for English as well (on US airlines at least) is ridiculous.
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Qqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2320 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7462 times:
All of AA's 763s and 777s have automated announcements. When the 757s get their makeover starting later this year, they'll have automated announcements as well.
When you first set-up the flight information into the system it automatically selects all applicable languages depending on the city pair entered. There is also a feature called "night mode" which prevents PAs from being made automatically, but the system will still show the video PA, just without audio.
There are other PA's which play automatically during boarding and after takeoff and landing. Then there are a bunch of other automated PAs that can be selected by the crew to play when the crew wants them to play (like international arrivals info). As a purser I love that I don't have to make so many PAs anymore. It makes my job easier, and it gives my jaw a break as well.
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BOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2014 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7366 times:
If they get the message across, that doesn't worry me. I think they should have them in several languages so all you have to do is push a button and it will play the message rather than have the FA's mispronounce all the words.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 14463 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7334 times:
Quoting AQ737 (Reply 11): Most of Hawaiian Airlines interisland 717 flights have the majority of in-flight announcements by automated voice. I don't like them either, especially because you lose that personal feel.
I thought they were just fine on my recent HNL-OGG and OGG-HNL-LIH flights. In fact, I'd argue that the automated announcements give the flight crew more time to interact with the customers on a personal level on those quick interisland hops.
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They have them on the newer 737s (738s, 739s, 73NGs, and prob 739ERs). I think it depends on the crew if they use them or not. My most recent IAH-SEA-IAH both on 738s, both flights utilized them. Other times I had taken this route, it had been rare the automated ones would go on.
On international flights, I have heard automated announcements in German (EWR-TXL), Greek (EWR-ATH-EWR), and Dutch (AMS-IAH). Was hoping to hear it in Chinese (Cantonese) on my flight to HKG, but the ISC did not play them.
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A380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7284 times:
AA has it on there 767's and maybe other a/c
its like in a womens voice "the captain turned on the fasten seat belt sign please return to your seat and fasten your seat belt, thank you."
and it goes on when the seatbelt sign goes on.
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Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7243 times:
Quoting Piskoto (Reply 18): Does this count???
Emirates also on turbulence...
''Ntoung! Please fasten your seatbelts.''
And then of course in arabic.
And immediately the seatbelt signs illuminate
And it scares the hell out of when you are fast asleep on a night sector.
I know at BA we have the facility for such recorded announcements on some of our aircraft but the company have turned it off. Instead electing for the crew to check the cabin. Also it means pax asleep and who are strapped in aren't disturbed unnesecarily.
I believe all 777 have the pre recorded announcement fitted as standard...
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