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User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2476 times:
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Hi all,

Looks like Globespan have been up to their usual standards (8 hour flight delay) and got one passenger very annoyed.

"THE boozed-up brother-in-law of former first minister Jack McConnell spent the night in cells after an airport bust-up. Millionaire businessman Robert McLuckie hurled abuse at airline staff and police after guzzling white wine as he waited for a Globespan flight at Edinburgh airport."

"I'll never fly Globespan again" and told airport staff to "get to f***" and "f*** off"

Full article

For your info the First Minister of Scotland is the same as the Prime minister or President. He was let off with a £200 for breach of the peace. Maybe the court new about GSM service levels  Silly

Sandyb123


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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3914 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2473 times:



Quoting Sandyb123 (Thread starter):
and told airport staff to "get to f***" and "f*** off"

Sad... NOT the fault of airport staff!  Sad


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26972 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2458 times:



Quoting Sandyb123 (Thread starter):
He was let off with a £200 for breach of the peace. Maybe the court new about GSM service levels Silly

Hmm whilst I never condone this type of behaviour . Globespan would bring me to the brink if I had suffered at their hands.


User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2412 times:
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Sorry here is the link that works:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...ter-jack-mcconnell-86908-20609937/



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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2383 times:



Quoting Sandyb123 (Thread starter):
Millionaire businessman Robert McLuckie

Why the hell is he flying Globespan then?  Confused



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User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1645 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2329 times:



Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 4):
Quoting Sandyb123 (Thread starter):
Millionaire businessman Robert McLuckie

Why the hell is he flying Globespan then?

...how do you amass such a large fortune? by cutting corners where you can. I wonder what the quality of white wine he was enjoying?
 crazy 



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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2317 times:



Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 5):
...how do you amass such a large fortune? by cutting corners where you can.

He's a millionaire businessman with connections. I doubt he made his millions by going Wal-Mart with everything.



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User currently offlineHighpeaklad From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

Just look at the comments on www.airlinequality.com


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User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2930 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 1):
Sad... NOT the fault of airport staff!

But when you fly an airline which contracts everything out, apart from the cabin and flight crew, who do you encounter who is actually an employee of the airline and not a contractor..?

My attitude is, if I pay to fly on an airline, then anyone who has anything to do with that flight is a representative of that company, and if I've been f&*&*d about for 8 hours without explanation or due care, then I'd be ready to vent my spleen on anyone associated with that flight.

If there's no REAL representative from the airline there in situations like this, you can hardly blame passengers getting irate at people they PERCEIVE to be airline representatives/employees/

Lo cost, no aftercare.

Shamu

[Edited 2008-06-17 13:57:42]


So I drive a 4x4. So what?! Tax the a$$ off me for it...oh, you already have... :-(
User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
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Quoting Highpeaklad (Reply 7):
Just look at the comments on www.airlinequality.com

I don't understand how they keep going!

* Planes go tech daily
* The CAA are investigating safety concerns
* customers get p*ssed off (like this guy)
* it's *not* a cheap airline generally
* everything is outsourced (including some flights)
* Customer service is abysmal
* nobody is accountable
* Almost all their routes have competition

I could go on.

Sandyb123



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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2156 times:



Quoting Sandyb123 (Thread starter):
Looks like Globespan have been up to their usual standards

Judging by the so called "journalism" from the Daily Record so has Mr McConnells brother in law -

"McLuckie hit the headlines last December after making a boozy pass at education chief Fiona Hyslop at a posh charity bash."

"The property millionaire also hurled sectarian abuse at two singers after booing their tribute to soldiers killed in Iraq."

Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 5):
I wonder what the quality of white wine he was enjoying?

White wine?? Probably Buckfast!  Wink

Quoting Sandyb123 (Reply 9):
I could go on.

You could, but at the end of the day people are still flying and flights are leaving near full day in day out. Which answers your question -

Quoting Sandyb123 (Reply 9):
I don't understand how they keep going!

What you have to remember is they provide an invaluable link to a mass of European routes from GLA/EDI and ABZ which without them would leave the scottish public with a very poor choice of destinations not to mention the amount of staff they employ.

Quoting Sandyb123 (Reply 9):
Almost all their routes have competition

Not strictly true. There are routes which have no competition whatsoever like ones from the MME and ABZ base both of which are extremely successful bases and people tend to forget them.

Ok I'm not saying that GSM is the best - far from it. But there have been problems and progress is being so that the proper infrastructure is being put in place to develop the airline and bring it back to what it once was.

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User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2128 times:
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Quoting GCDEG (Reply 10):
Judging by the so called "journalism" from the Daily Record

Yes, the record is not a brilliant read and I didn't realise he has previous!

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 10):
White wine?? Probably Buckfast!  

Very funny. We're not all booze swilling drunks.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 10):
leaving near full day in day out

Do they? Is there a source for this data? There was a recent post on here about poor load factors on GSM and their website is still trying to flog cheap flights for June.

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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2118 times:



Quoting Sandyb123 (Reply 11):
Very funny. We're not all booze swilling drunks.

That was a joke hence the  Wink after it!

Quoting Sandyb123 (Reply 11):
Is there a source for this data?

Yeah I would say as operating crew doing 4 or 5 flights a week would make me a pretty good source for this. Load factors for todays AGP 185/189

GCDEG



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26972 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2093 times:



Quoting GCDEG (Reply 12):
Yeah I would say as operating crew doing 4 or 5 flights a week would make me a pretty good source for this. Load factors for todays AGP 185/189

They need to scrap longhaul and concentrate again on shorthaul. The longhaul product is a discrace. The DUB flights have often left 8-10 hours late over the last few weeks. I have been monitoring them. Also the case brought against them by the CAA is certainly very worrying.


User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2056 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
They need to scrap longhaul and concentrate again on shorthaul.

OA260 I've said this many times before and I'll say it again. I couldn't agree with you more and if I was the big boss that's all I'd want to be doing.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
The longhaul product is a discrace.

The sad fact is, the thing that is consistent is how good the crew are and how hard they work. A shame that everything else that happens roundabout the flight lets that fact go unnoticed and is really the only shining star on the longaul product.

GCDEG



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User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2024 times:
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Quoting GCDEG (Reply 14):
The sad fact is, the thing that is consistent is how good the crew are and how hard they work. A shame that everything else that happens roundabout the flight lets that fact go unnoticed and is really the only shining star on the longaul product.

The crew could be the best service in the world but if I was on one of GSM's catalogue of ultra-delayed flights I wouldn't give a damn.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
Also the case brought against them by the CAA is certainly very worrying

Yes, although how likely is it for the CAA to remove their license?

Sandyb123



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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2003 times:



Quoting Sandyb123 (Reply 15):
The crew could be the best service in the world but if I was on one of GSM's catalogue of ultra-delayed flights I wouldn't give a damn.

And that's exactly what passengers who have suffered long delays think. Which is why I said it goes unnoticed and is the only good thing about the longhaul product.

GCDEG



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User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1959 times:



Quoting Highpeaklad (Reply 7):
Just look at the comments on www.airlinequality.com

This is what I don't understand. Presumably the people that posted comments there knew about the site and had read the comments already posted. Why then did they fly the airline?
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User currently offlineFlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1985 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Hahaha...lots of rich people want to save $$$. For example, Tony Blair (ex-bitish prime minister) flew Ryanair or easyjet?


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