OH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3111 times:
Noting the flight numbers and verifying using united.com, it's worth noting that the aircraft type has changed now as well. It's gone from 2x daily CRJ-200s (which the passenger loads were almost always EMB-120 levels anyways) to 4x daily EMB-120s.
So adding frequency, but only marginally adding capacity (120 seats per day in each direction vs. 100 seats). And changing to an aircraft with much better fuel economy as well.
I would expect that LAWA would have had to have signed off on this change, as jet service was very much of a selling point of this route for them. We've also been told that the PMD airport closed at a certain time (11pm I believe), so there seems to be quite a few changes afoot. All good though, I think this is a pretty good "rightsize" on the route.
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Ytib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 594 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2969 times:
Quoting OH-LGA (Reply 1): I would expect that LAWA would have had to have signed off on this change, as jet service was very much of a selling point of this route for them. We've also been told that the PMD airport closed at a certain time (11pm I believe), so there seems to be quite a few changes afoot. All good though, I think this is a pretty good "rightsize" on the route.
LAWA approached United about making this change to turboprops as they felt the lack of frequency was hurting the flights. LAWA is also disappointed with the loads and thought they would have been better by now.
FA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2547 times:
as a resident of the Santa Clarita valley, even with the free bus service, I'll still take BUR anyday since there's so many more flights and more cities served. Great to see additional frequencies though from PMD! Let's see a DEN link and really get traffic movin'!
The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better
SBN580 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2393 times:
Sadly, whether it has been United Express, Delta Connection or the old America West over the years, Palmdale service seems hampered by the same issues it has always had. When I was out there in the '90s, the best routes were to LAS on HP and LAX on UAX.
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It is definitely not working, and that's why the authorities worked on changing frequency. They seem to think that four daily flights on props will be the spark it needs. May was a banner month for the service - it filled 42% of seats, that's well above the 30% range that had been the norm before. So let's say this new schedule increases traffic numbers by 50%. That means instead of filling 42 out of 100 seats each way, they'll fill 63 out of 120 seats each way each day. That's not exactly stellar.