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United Doubles SFO-PMD Service.  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25183 posts, RR: 48
Posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2750 times:

Well in between all the cuts, its nice to see something increasing especialy this flight which was billed as an experiement.

Effective Sep 2nd.

SFO-PMD
UA5524 0830-0956
UA5526 1035-1201
UA5528 1700-1826
UA5533 2220-2346 X6

PMD-SFO
UA5506 0600-0732 X7
UA5524 1015-1147
UA5526 1220-1352
UA5528 1845-2017

The new schedule greatly improves connection opportunities at SFO, along with providing much better times for local traffic allowing for easier day trips.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
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User currently offlineOH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2709 times:

Noting the flight numbers and verifying using united.com, it's worth noting that the aircraft type has changed now as well. It's gone from 2x daily CRJ-200s (which the passenger loads were almost always EMB-120 levels anyways) to 4x daily EMB-120s.

So adding frequency, but only marginally adding capacity (120 seats per day in each direction vs. 100 seats). And changing to an aircraft with much better fuel economy as well.

I would expect that LAWA would have had to have signed off on this change, as jet service was very much of a selling point of this route for them. We've also been told that the PMD airport closed at a certain time (11pm I believe), so there seems to be quite a few changes afoot. All good though, I think this is a pretty good "rightsize" on the route.



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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2643 times:

well nice to see tyhsi is working. I really didnt expect it to. I thought due to defense contractors that PMD-DEN would be better

User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 571 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2567 times:



Quoting OH-LGA (Reply 1):
I would expect that LAWA would have had to have signed off on this change, as jet service was very much of a selling point of this route for them. We've also been told that the PMD airport closed at a certain time (11pm I believe), so there seems to be quite a few changes afoot. All good though, I think this is a pretty good "rightsize" on the route.

LAWA approached United about making this change to turboprops as they felt the lack of frequency was hurting the flights. LAWA is also disappointed with the loads and thought they would have been better by now.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25183 posts, RR: 48
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2306 times:

LAWA was indeed part of this, and supports the increased schedule.

Additionally LAWA is throwing in free bus transportation on the FlyAway from both Van Nuys and Santa Clarita for ticketed passengers.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2145 times:

as a resident of the Santa Clarita valley, even with the free bus service, I'll still take BUR anyday since there's so many more flights and more cities served. Great to see additional frequencies though from PMD! Let's see a DEN link and really get traffic movin'!  Wink


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User currently offlineSBN580 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

Sadly, whether it has been United Express, Delta Connection or the old America West over the years, Palmdale service seems hampered by the same issues it has always had. When I was out there in the '90s, the best routes were to LAS on HP and LAX on UAX.


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User currently offlinePgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1955 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
well nice to see tyhsi is working.

It is definitely not working, and that's why the authorities worked on changing frequency. They seem to think that four daily flights on props will be the spark it needs. May was a banner month for the service - it filled 42% of seats, that's well above the 30% range that had been the norm before. So let's say this new schedule increases traffic numbers by 50%. That means instead of filling 42 out of 100 seats each way, they'll fill 63 out of 120 seats each way each day. That's not exactly stellar.


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