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ERJ Or Crj?  
User currently offlineBlueJet From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 397 posts, RR: 4
Posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

If you operated a small airline, like ASA, would you choose the ERJ or the CRJ, and why? I personally like the ERJ, stylish and a great plane.

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User currently offlineCleCo From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

The ERJ has a major advantage in that it can connect with the same jetways as larger jets without any modifications. However; I have heard the Crj is much quieter.

Jake



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User currently offlineCVG777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1251 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

I would choose the CRJ because it has more overhead passenger storage area. It has overhead bins along both sides of the plane whereas the ERJ has only one row of overhead bins along the side of the aircraft. Also I thought it was very comfortable. I think the CRJ also has a greater range too, not like it matters though.

User currently offlineCNBC2001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

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User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

I think we need to add a section to the airliners.net rules prohibiting Embraer vs. Canadair wars.  Big grin

User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1189 times:

Is this a war? I've never ridden either, but the CRJ is definitely quieter, and will make airport neighbors much happier...

redngold



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User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1184 times:

I dunno about the CRJ being quieter. I heard a CRJ takeoff out of HOU (I was on the roof), and it was pretty loud. Haven't heard/flown an ERJ yet.

User currently offlineCorey777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

I am a Bombardier fan, so my first choice would be the CRJ, of course.

In real life, however, I'd consider how/where it would be used: The Canadair would be better for routes where few airports have jetways and the airstair would be more convenient. The Embraer, though, is faster and usually better seating arrangements than the Canadair, so would be better for a big-city commutuer service.

I've never ridden either of these, so I can't comment on noise, seat comfort, etc.

Corey777


User currently offlineCVG777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1251 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1169 times:

The CRJ is proclaimed to be the quietest commercial jet in the world.

User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3871 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1169 times:

Hard to say, because while the ERJ-145 and CRJ-200 compete in the same market, Embraer has the ERJ-135 and ERJ 140 in the same cockpit configuration, and Canadair doesn't have an answer for that. However, Canadair has the CRJ-700 and CRJ-900 with the same cockpit configuration and is available sooner, and is much more similar to the CRJ-200 then the ERJ-170 will be to the ERJ-145.

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7773 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1155 times:

The larger ERJs are completely new designs and share nothing but a name with the ERJ-135/140/145.

Though it is surprising that Canadair hasn't produced a smaller CRJ, oh wait they do, its called the Challenger 604.



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User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1146 times:

Although I like the 1-2 configuration of the ERJ, I would choose the CRJ. That's not to say that the CRJ doesn't have its problems, such as low windows and extremely hard seats, but I like it better aesthetically and it's very quiet. I would, however, install more comfortable seats before flying it. Can't do anything about the windows, though.

User currently offlineAC330 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1144 times:

Definately, without a doubt the CRJ !! Why?? First of all not all that many people truly enjoy flying. I love it, but from experience and from asking people, I have learned that A LOT of people really do not like flying and if they have to fly, they do not want to be on a small plane! Yes, these are both small planes but the CRJ, I think is MUCH roomier. I like the 2-2 seating unlike the ERJ's 2-1. I also find Can stand up easier on the CRJ and this just seems to make it more comfortable and not seem so small.

User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1136 times:

I have brought this up before, But I would go with CRJ. I think the ERJ is nice looking but the CRJ has better performance and is more roomier. I also like the flight deck more.


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User currently offlineMx727 From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1132 times:

ERJ

User currently offlineTraveler_7 From Estonia, joined May 2000, 540 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1126 times:

What about price difference?
How much does CRJ 200 costs?


User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1125 times:

Funny a lot of you think that ERJs look more stylish.. I myself thinks that CRJs look much better than the ERJ. The engines especially look better then the ones on the ERJs...

Oh and the winglets... beautiful...

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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1121 times:

I prefer the CRJ because it looks like a small airliner and not a commuter aircraft, infact have been dreaming about having a small airline with atleast 3 CRJ's,but i'd order mine without the winglets Smile

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User currently offlineERJ135 From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 680 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1120 times:

ERJ 135LR of course and the fleet would be based in Sydney.


I remember when the DC-3 was new!
User currently offlineMhsieh From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1115 times:

Having had the opportunity to fly numerous times on both, I would have to say the CRJ is a better plane as far as comfort is concerned.
The CRJ feels like a larger jet and feels more "solid" from a passenger perspective. It feels more well built.
The ERJ feels like a turbo-prop commuter with jet engine stuck onto it....


User currently offlineCSA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1107 times:

If we look at this issue from a realistic point of view, new airlines often start with leased or second hand aircraft, which means the best way for the new airline would be to start with the CRJ since it has been out for some years longer than the ERJ which probably means that it's easier to find used CRJ than ERJs, or ever for a lease contract. Otherwise I like both. They are nice to fly on, T-Tail makes you feel you're flying Smile/happy/getting dizzy Would definetly choose CRJ or ERJ in front of a 737 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

ERJ also has one advantage over ERJ... NO GE POWER Smile/happy/getting dizzy)



User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1099 times:


I´ve only used the CRJ100 so far, and I found it horrible. It really shows it´s just a stretched Biz jet. If the ERJ is even more cramped, may God have mercy on the pax...
I prefer the Dash 8 in that segment and the ARJ for 70+ seats.
Daniel Smile


User currently offlineCrj-900 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1095 times:

I think the whole price thing is a little touchy at this time. Brazil has been ruled against by the WTO on several ocassions due to "illegal" subsidies(pro-x). I am a resident of Canada, and am sure that I will never receive the entire unbiased story. As is probably the case in Brazil. I think rj's (almost every type) are great looking, each have their own unique style. I do have one problem with where rj's are going though. They are not airliners, nor should they think they are. Once streched to 90 seats they are no longer an rj. I could not imagine sitting in the aft of a crj-900 and watching the fuselage flex in flight. At the very least these large "rj's" should probably forget about their birth titles, and admit what they truly are........airliners.

just an opinion......crj-900 (how appropriate!)
-----sorry, did someone ask a question?


User currently offlineWestern737 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1084 times:

I never rode on either of them so it will be based on the looks. I choose ERJ just mainly because the engines look good on ERJ. CRJ look neat but the way engines look really ruined it all. Just out of proportion.



User currently offlineCV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1074 times:

I am a little biased towards the CRJ. I've flown on both and talked ot the flight crews, the airline I fly for is taking dilvery of a bunch of CRJs right now. They were choosen because they were faster, longer ranged, carried more payload, quieter, and more reliable. We use them on Jet bridges, the only thing you have to do is remove a pin to drop the stairs in order to attach them. It is a lot easier in some ways as the stairs are there in case they are needed. I've seen American Eagle have to use a difficult set of ground stairs at airports without jet bridges, or when they are inop. The ERJ is more fuel effiecient, a better short hop aircraft from I've heard. It is also a better climber at higher altitude, a down side to the CRJ in my opinion. Although the CRJ wins hands down with engines, they are very similar to those used on S-3 for the navy and A-10s for the airforce, bullet proof.

25 I Like To Fly : I have always considered noise to be a big issue with planes, so I would definitely go with CRJ. Also I believe the reliability of the aircraft to be
26 Noise : CRJ
27 DL3744 : what weirdo would put this in? go for the widebodies!!!
28 DIA : CRJ. It is roomier inside. I also note the takeoff--it accelerates like an empty 757!
29 ContinentalCLE : Crj Erj or the "Amazon Jet" are alwayz broke they suck. FLY CONTINENTAL
30 Vector : Embraer Regional Jets!!!! Of course!!! Fly Continental Express!!
31 Beech_bum : The CRJ will climb at what the ERJ cruises at.
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