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Delta 777LR Which Routes?  
User currently offlinePhileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 303 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9550 times:

through all the buzz about delta's 777LR...... what routes do they use this bird on currently? all the talk sorta died down and im not really sure where ill see these things.

thanks

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User currently offlinePapatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9510 times:

As of now the only route for the 777LR is JFK-BOM RT.

User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5392 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9462 times:



Quoting Papatango (Reply 1):
As of now the only route for the 777LR is JFK-BOM RT.

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There are occasional substitutions, though... keep your eye out at either JFK or ATL. I saw N701DN last time I was at ATL a few weeks ago.


User currently offlineMCOAviationFan From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9437 times:

DL has one 777LR being delivered in Dec, 3 in Jan., and 1 each in Feb. and Mar. DL usually allows six months lead time to market new routes, so we're about there now. If these aircraft will indeed be flying new routes, we should know something soon. Of course, with oil where it is today, they may just use these planes to augment existing routes. We'll soon find out either way.

User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 8326 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9364 times:
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How aout using them to upgrade a flagship route with flight #1, JFK to LHR. Certain shorter routes to Europe could use the 777.

User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5240 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9335 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 4):
How aout using them to upgrade a flagship route with flight #1, JFK to LHR. Certain shorter routes to Europe could use the 777.

Because they'd be wasting an aircraft with range for far longer routes on a relatively short TATL route. If European routes ever see 777's again they will be the standard 200 not the LR's.



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User currently offlineMCOAviationFan From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9331 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 4):
How aout using them to upgrade a flagship route with flight #1, JFK to LHR. Certain shorter routes to Europe could use the 777.

I doubt we will see 777LR's at LHR, but DL could use LR's to fly to PVG or DXB and use the 777ER's freed up to fly to places such as LHR.


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6464 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9331 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 4):
How aout using them to upgrade a flagship route with flight #1, JFK to LHR. Certain shorter routes to Europe could use the 777.

Why on earth would Delta want to use a LR aircraft on short route like JFK-LHR? Wouldn't that defeat the whole purpose of getting and paying extra for that aircraft as opposed to the other models of 777?


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3014 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9308 times:



Quoting OA412 (Reply 5):
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 4):
How aout using them to upgrade a flagship route with flight #1, JFK to LHR. Certain shorter routes to Europe could use the 777.

Because they'd be wasting an aircraft with range for far longer routes on a relatively short TATL route. If European routes ever see 777's again they will be the standard 200 not the LR's.

So, if fuel prices make them rethink new LR routes, would these birds most likely be subbed on other Asian routes (HKG, ICN, etc)?



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User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9288 times:

From what has been discussed on Airliners.net:

ATL-SYD
ATL-HKG
ATL-DEL
ATL-JNB


User currently offlinePetera380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9251 times:
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I'm booked ATL-NRT in July and the seat plan is the LR as far as I can make out!

Peter


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9233 times:

There is unconfirmed news that AI may be reducing JFK-BOM to 4x weekly, and DEL-JFK to 3x weekly. Both routes are flown by 772LR.

This could present an opportunity for Delta to start JFK-DEL, and add more frequencies on JFK-BOM sector.


User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9231 times:



Quoting Petera380 (Reply 10):
I'm booked ATL-NRT in July and the seat plan is the LR as far as I can make out!

ER's are based at ATL
LR's are based at JFK

Is that correct?


User currently offlineMCOAviationFan From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9214 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 12):
ER's are based at ATL
LR's are based at JFK

Is that correct?

Yes, although there is the occasional aircraft substitution. With 6 LR's coming soon, this may change.


User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9197 times:



Quoting MCOAviationFan (Reply 13):
Yes, although there is the occasional aircraft substitution. With 6 LR's coming soon, this may change

Will at that point we hear the big new routes that were to come about with the arrival of the 777-200LR? The idea of ATL-HKG, and ATL-DEL seem much more feasible than that of ATL-PVG, and ATL-SYD.


User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5392 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9167 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 14):
ATL-HKG

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I'll be floored if DL doesn't start this route when the remaining 77Ls arrive.


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3471 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9167 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 14):
Will at that point we hear the big new routes that were to come about with the arrival of the 777-200LR? The idea of ATL-HKG, and ATL-DEL seem much more feasible than that of ATL-PVG, and ATL-SYD.

DL already flies ATL-PVG. I think we'll see ATL-JNB and ATL-HKG, as well as a possible JFK-NRT routing if they work out the times properly. It will be interesting to see what's DL going to be up to next.

Jeremy


User currently offlineMCOAviationFan From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9154 times:

My thoughts are that the most likely candidates for the new LR's are either ATL-HKG or ATL-BOM. BOM may be stronger at this point since DL already has a presence in this market via JFK and starting a new long haul route with oil at these levels is very difficult as has been seen by ATL-PVG. I really do not see SYD in the cards at this time. The last time a DL exec spoke about Australia, (not sure if it was Mr. Bastian or Mr. Hauenstein) they mentioned there is interest in flying there, but not in the immediate future. DEL is probably also a strong candidate from either JFK or ATL, but that would also be a new station. Flying to BOM would allow the LR's to rotate through ATL for regular maintenance as well.

User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9135 times:



Quoting SESGDL (Reply 16):
DL already flies ATL-PVG.

Yes, I am more than aware of that. What I meant when I said "feasible" was that Shanghai has an overall smaller demand from the USA than does the massive market to/from Hong Kong.

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 16):
JFK-NRT routing if they work out the times properly. It will be interesting to see what's DL going to be up to next.

Wasn't JFK supposed to be the 777-200ER to Narita when an additional 777-200LR can enter the Atlanta market to operate ATL-KWI?


User currently offlineWindowSeat From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1312 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9135 times:

As stated correctly, they fly exclusively on the JFK-BOM route. I flew to BOM two weeks ago on the 772LR and it was a really wonderful flight. The BizElite seat is everything it's made out to be and then some. I hope I get the 772LR on the way back on July 9th. It'd really suck if they sub it with a 772ER.

cheers,
WindowSeat



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User currently offlineMCOAviationFan From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8989 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 18):
Wasn't JFK supposed to be the 777-200ER to Narita when an additional 777-200LR can enter the Atlanta market to operate ATL-KWI?

JFK-NRT is a market that DL is very interested in serving. There are two outstanding issues right now -- an airplane to fly the route and a slot at NRT. Perhaps an LR or an ER freed from another route by an LR can fly this route when the new ships are delivered. DL also needs to obtain a slot at NRT at an appropriate time. ATL-KWI has been announced as operating with an ER.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8916 times:



Quoting SESGDL (Reply 16):

Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 14):
Will at that point we hear the big new routes that were to come about with the arrival of the 777-200LR? The idea of ATL-HKG, and ATL-DEL seem much more feasible than that of ATL-PVG, and ATL-SYD.

DL already flies ATL-PVG. I think we'll see ATL-JNB and ATL-HKG, as well as a possible JFK-NRT routing if they work out the times properly. It will be interesting to see what's DL going to be up to next.

Given there are a number of carriers flying JFK-NRT, DL will probably wait on that route and concentrate on routes where there is less competition, such as ATL-HKG.



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User currently offlinePhileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8893 times:

Alright! thanks for all the feed back. I didnt know the LRs were based at JFK. Thought they were at ATL. well i hope to see JFK-NRT kick up soon. it would be nice to see Skyteam fly non-stop JFK-NRT again since NW pulled out in 2006.

User currently offlineKlkla From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8842 times:



Quoting Phileet92 (Reply 22):
it would be nice to see Skyteam fly non-stop JFK-NRT again since NW pulled out in 2006.

NW has stated publicly in the past that the first route for the 787 would be JFK-NRT. That was a year or two ago (right after they announced the 787 purchase) so a lot could have changed since then - but with the pending merger with DL and DL's large international base at JFK I would be very surprised if we didn't see a JFK-NRT flight n the next year or so.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 8326 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8818 times:
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Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 7):
Why on earth would Delta want to use a LR aircraft on short route like JFK-LHR? Wouldn't that defeat the whole purpose of getting and paying extra for that aircraft as opposed to the other models of 777?

777-200ER can fly from ORD to India but AA flies 17 777 to LHR every day not because of their range capability, becasue they need 777 in that market. When Delta gets their next 6 77L's they may free up two 777-200ER for size duty, not ultra long range duty. Jfl and Atl to LHR would be great uses of 777 to Europe.


25 Haan : What about ATL-CPT or JFK-CPT
26 DeltaL1011man : At best it will get a 764 when the last batch is re-fited. (but they only hold 20ish seats less than the 77Es) (or a A333 once the merger is done.) 7
27 Bobnwa : Still doesn't explain why you think a 777LR would be a good aircraft for JFK-LHR. A smart airline does pay extra money for a long range aircraft airc
28 Jfk777 : Any Delta 777 will do, a 77L would be better used on a longer flight. Delta would be better served flying Atlanta & JFK to LHR with 777, not because
29 Bobnwa : Thank you, that was my whole point.
30 DeltaL1011man : Ok can we please look at two things. A) DL has/will have 16 777s AA has 50ish. B) The DALPA will let DL fly alot longer routes that what AA pilots wi
31 Papatango : If Delta could get fifth freedom rghts from HKG how about a ATL-HKG-DEL or BOM-ATL and a reverse ATL-BOM/DEL-HKG-ATL. Two new cities from ATL plus rou
32 Evan767 : You're telling me they're going to start DEL from ATL and JFK? No, don't think so. You don't understand. Delta doesn't have 47 777s like American doe
33 Post contains images Lambert747 : This is a very interesting idea. I think that it is very possible in the future. However, in the interim I think Delta Air Lines is going to stick wi
34 Kaitak744 : As of now, 8 777-200ERs are scheduled to fly ATL-NRT, TLV, DXB, ICN, KWI, PVG 2 777-200LRs are schedualed to fly ATL-JFK-BOM. In the future, (and afte
35 CAP2008 : I thought only UA and QF could fly direct USA-OZ. How will DL be allowed to fly direct ATL-SYD?
36 Kaitak744 : Hawaiian flys USA-OZ direct. Air New Zealand did so at one time as well.
37 Mayor : What happened with AA's authority when they dropped it? Is it still available?
38 MCOAviationFan : Interesting thoughts!! Pretty cool routes, but with oil at these levels, I doubt they would try it. Does anybody know why UA bowed out of their RTW f
39 PGNCS : It would be a waste of an aircraft that is needed more elsewhere. There is no capacity shortage on JFK-LHR.
40 Bobnwa : The US and Australia have open skies and US carrier can fly there. Northwest still has US Australia route authority dormant since they stopped flying
41 DeltaL1011man : At some point in time yes. I never said it would be right together. Just like they will have both ATL-BOM and JFK-BOM. Open skies with oz now. Plus D
42 DeltaL1011man : Maybe maybe not. Question is can a NW 747-400 fly LAX-SYD with cargo both ways? If yes it will be a 744 if no it will be a 77L or a 77W. MEL would ha
43 Papatango : The routing would be ATL-DEL/BOM-HKG-ATL and ATL-HKG-DEL/BOM-ATL ROUND THE WORLD BOTH WAYS.
44 Jfk777 : Flying to LHR with 777 for Delta would be when they receive the remaining 6 77L on order next year. Then they will have 16 777, 8 77E plus 2 77L's th
45 SeaBosDca : By that time they'll have A330-300s, a plane that is the same size as the 77E/L and far more suited to short transatlantic missions. The 77L is a hea
46 DeltaL1011man : and again what is the point? To say they have around the world flights? Cause that is not a good reason to start a route like this. Again AA has 50 D
47 Jfk777 : Del & HKG are not yet on the Delta route map. Sydney has less competition then India and ASia.
48 Papatango : No it is a routing that can be accomplised with 3 aircraft and also make some profit
49 Bobnwa : Yes and SYD has about 1% of the population of India or Asia.
50 MaverickM11 : Why didn't they start that before putting the 77L on BOMJFK?
51 Flynavy : Wrong. The ATL-JFK and JFK-ATL segments of DL 16/17 are now flown with 757-200s. There no longer is an ATL-JFK/JFK-ATL 777 flight.
52 LEEDS19 : From my experience of dealing with the DXB-ATL sector the LR's cant arrive soon enough,with a full passenger load the cargo that can be carried westbo
53 Panamair : No, ever since the official introduction of the 77L on the JFK-BOM route (March 30 08), the 77L is only scheduled for BOM. The only time that the 77E
54 N867DA : If a.net speak is true (and when is it wrong? ) DL is really looking at India and China for expansion. Is ATL-BOM really necessary since they already
55 OA412 : I would be shocked if they didn't add ATL-BOM once they get enough 77L's. While JFK obviously has high O & D to India, this flight can capture both s
56 MaverickM11 : I think it's quite telling that they've put the 77L on BOMJFK, rather than starting a route that actually requires the extra range.
57 RwSEA : I think the -LRs will go on some of the longer routes currently offered: ATL-PVG, ATL-DXB, ATL-KWI and perhaps ATL-ICN. The only new routes I'd guess
58 Panamair : JFK-DEL can be done with the 772ER pretty much without penalties. I think the ideal and most productive utilization of the 777 fleet for JFK ops will
59 SESGDL : While the 777ER could fly JFK-BOM, BOM-JFK often required fuel stops and couldn't fly without some weight restrictions. JFK-BOM is a route that actua
60 RwSEA : I also think nonstops to South Africa are very unlikely. Even with the range of the 777LR, JNB is too hot and high for a nonstop on the return. While
61 DeltaL1011man : They should be soon Because the 77Es where not bringing much Cargo (if any). It is only Scheduled to fly to BOM right but it has been subed in to oth
62 SunriseValley : In fact, the 77L is more cost effective than the 772 after about 2000nm. I can see no reason why DL would add more 772's to their fleet in the future
63 MaverickM11 : My point is if ATLHKG (or fill in the blank here with whatever ULH is the DL flavor of the day on here) is such a high priority, why did BOMJFK come
64 Post contains links SunriseValley : the link was cut off www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2431662
65 DeltaL1011man : Because they had to have one of two things. A) 77L for PVG or B) 77E for PVG. BOM needed the 77L more than PVG so that is the reason why. It was ethe
66 KochamLOT : I check flightaware often and it doesnt seem like those 777s are used as much as the other airlines. I know they dont have as many 777s but still, the
67 Post contains links DeltaL1011man : Quoting KochamLOT (Reply 66): I check flightaware often and it doesnt seem like those 777s are used as much as the other airlines. I know they dont ha
68 Mayor : Looks like quite a bit of utilization to me, from only 10 a/c.
69 Sdexplorer00 : As addiional aircraft come online, I think the plan is also for Delta to take on the AF Lax to LHR route with it's own metal. Would one of the 777's b
70 DeltaL1011man : Pretty much. Would be a loooong 763 route. Maybe with the winglets it could make it? Still I wouldn't look for that one for a while.
71 Jacobin777 : Certainly longer, but not "a lot" longer... Doable without wingles...UA used to fly SFO-CDG with a B763. LAN flies LAX-SCL, and there are other route
72 Post contains images Flynavy : B777-200LR, LHR-LAX-SYD anyone? Woops.
73 LAXdude1023 : We cant forget my beloved LAX-SVO! The longest 763 route! Its connects my hometown with one of my favorite cities in the world! Ugggh, dont remind me
74 DeltaL1011man : Ah ok I thought that SLC-CDG having to make stops in CVG for fuel was due to range/high and hot. Well maybe AA will start LAX-HKG............I would
75 LAXdude1023 : I hope they dont. If they do they might tighten the codeshares with CX and I love flying with CX and getting AA miles! The issue with the pilots piss
76 DeltaL1011man : I agree. DFW-China, ORD-HKG come to mind.
77 MilesDependent : I really don't see DL launching any new stations in the current environment. Some new routes perhaps, but with the current economic climate equivalent
78 Flynavy : In case you weren't aware, within the last month, we (Delta) have opened up five new stations: GEO, ARN, AGP, AMM, CAI.
79 Lambert747 : Not with Cathay Pacific 3x per day.. Unfortunately there is no end in a comfortable sight for that to occur. The quandary of American Airlines, fuel
80 Lambert747 : All of the above routes were announced a number of months ago before fuel was at the current cost.
81 DeltaL1011man : so? If fuel was that bad they would have waited. like I said the only 777 JFK-LHR would have see is a 773. My guess is a A333 or 764.
82 SESGDL : Those six new 777-200LRs need to go somewhere. There may not be all new cities, but there at least has to be one or two. Jeremy
83 Lambert747 : Using a 777-200ER is a strecth on a route going up against BA, VS, and AA who fly the route using more frequencies than Delta Air Lines, I would thin
84 DeltaL1011man : Even if they put them on ATL-DXB the 77Es would A) open up a new stations or B) and more flights to the other 77E routes. Maybe ATL-GRU 7x daily? or
85 DLPMMM : I think you would be wrong about the plan. There is no reason for DL to use it's own metal. Under the new agreement between AF and DL, all the costs
86 Flynavy : On what list? Future LR destinations? I'd like to know where you got hold of this "list". The FACT is that DELTA wants to eventually put its flagship
87 Lambert747 : That is what I thought as well. I thought ATL-GRU was being eyed for year-round 777-200ER service, due to the impending addition of GOL/VARIG to SkyT
88 Flynavy : No, those plans are still in place.
89 Flynavy : Additionally, the LR BusinessElite cabin capacity is being increased by two seats (43 to 45). 7101 and 7102 will be retrofitted when more LRs come onl
90 Lambert747 : Thank you for the information. It will be a definite advantage on some routes to have the new Delta Air Lines Business Elite and Economy Class cabins
91 DeltaL1011man : Which is what I said but If Delta puts a 772ER/LR on JFK-LHR anywhere in the near future they are very very stupid. If DL got or get 773As or 772As t
92 B777ER : A confrence call a while back it was slipped out that JFK-NRT will be coming online with Delta metal. Slot issue is now a non-issue with NW merger. S
93 DeltaL1011man : Can a 77L do ATL-JNB non-stop? There have been a few people on here who say it can't be done. It would have to stop coming back. Can someone (who rea
94 DeltaL1011man : I would think they would send them to DXB and then send the two 77Es for refits and then start JFK-NRT. I would also think that ATL-KWI will end up b
95 MaverickM11 : That hasn't stopped them from increasing frequency on other routes and adding ATLKWI.
96 MaverickM11 : I agree, and I even think ATLHKG is a stretch considering the weakness of ATLPVG. ATLJNB with a one stop on a 767 of any kind is really tough to make
97 Rcardinale : Is this the result of PVG going down to 5x weekly?
98 DeltaL1011man : I'm pretty sure that when ATL-KWI starts there will be at least 11 777s at DL. plus PVG will be down to 5x weekly and KWI is only 4x weekly. Also is
99 Jacobin777 : True...another long-ranged B763 route! ...neither would I..not needed given the stiff competition. There would be some penalty involved in the JNB-AT
100 DeltaL1011man : Thought so..........we shall see but I would think that having the DKR stop would be better for DL......Plus DL has 5th freedom rights out of DKR.
101 B777ER : DL has from what I have heard, security issues as well as fuel issues at DKR. It would be much much less of a headache to do away with DKR in terms o
102 MaverickM11 : So does SA, and the market to anywhere other than France is small so I don't think DL can cover the cost of the stop with DKR based revenue pax, plus
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