Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4957 posts, RR: 8 Posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5146 times:
What kind of changes could we expect to see at IAH as a result of CO joining Star? Nothing much changed with Skyteam save for some DL and NW gate shuffling. In all actuality it seems as though service has been downgraded post CO & skyteam on NW and DL routes. Would we see United/US Airways going back over to the north concourse at IAH Terminal A? 319s/320s from Air Canada again? Heavier UA and US birds?
I know with CO leaving Skyteam it shouldn't have too much effect on KL and AF at IAH save for AF maybe not bringing the 2nd CDG flight back.
AznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3583 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5126 times:
I had list a few possibilities on another thread prior to this one, at least with other Star members. Some include a new AC/CO agreement where AC could provide mainline 2x or 3x daily to YYZ and introduce daily YUL a destination SA)">CO had dropped a while back. SA)">CO could then focus on YYC and YVR and maybe YEG. Of course the addition of MUC by LH, and if that is as successful, possibly ZRH with LX. Also, BD could introduce or be a feeder for a one-stop to ABZ, while SK could do the same for OSL and BGO.
Some dreams could be SA coming back to IAH via Lagos, if possible. SA)">CO or CA doing IAH-PEK, and maybe TK to IST.
While writing those, I did have a random though pop up which I posted on the IAH Spotters group. There had been endless mention of AI going to either IAH or DFW or both in various combinations. AI has always been saying we will go to either or both airport soon. With their future membership into Star and SA)">CO being given an invitation to join Star, I would like to think this make IAH a favorite now as a future Star hub rather than DFW with service within the next 2yrs rather than sometime in this lifetime.
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9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1367 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4929 times:
Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 1): Some dreams could be SA coming back to IAH via Lagos
SA would likely stick with DKR as it currently is used as their refueling stop on the JNB-IAD and JNB-JFK route. With IAH located further south and west,it could mean a different refueling stop. What I see happening is SA dropping IAD for IAH and moving JFK over to EWR. A non-stop both ways CPT-IAH would be dreamy,but very unlikely as JNB is SA main hub. I believe it would be technically possible,just not sure what the payload restriction issues would be. No doubt someone will do some rough calculations and let us know.
9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1367 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4886 times:
Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 1): Some include a new AC/CO agreement where AC could provide mainline 2x or 3x daily to YYZ and introduce daily YUL a destination SA)">SA)">CO had dropped a while back. SA)">SA)">CO could then focus on YYC and YVR and maybe YEG.
How AC and SA)">CO end up co-operating should be very interesting to watch. Considering they will both be part of the trans-Atlantic joint venture suggests they will likely find a way to make it a win,win for both parties. AC is currently using the 705 on the IAH-YYZ and IAH-YYC routes,that will be history in due course and is likely to be up-gauged with either one or both operating the routes.
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AznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3583 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4549 times:
Quoting AirlineAddict (Reply 5): But hopefully MAD will be a higher priority with Spanair as a partner.
I still think MAD is among those listed as priority for IAH once the 788s arrive. Prior to Skyteam, CO had a partnership with UX in which UX codeshared on the EWR-MAD flights while CO put their code on UX domestic flights..
CALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3730 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4464 times:
EgyptAir and Asiana are the two I would like to see enter the market. Would be great to see those birds........and of course AI probably just locked up there decision on whether to go to IAH or DFW!!!!!
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Alangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2103 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3929 times:
A few years ago CO was a regular visitor to Australia and New Zealand. AirNZ is the Star carrier in this part of the world. If Star Carriers are attracted to IAH, to work with CO, AKL-IAH looks as though it would be within the range capability of 777-200ERs as operated by AirNZ and by CO. SYD-IAH looks a bit further, so maybe have to wait for 787s.
IAH would be good for people wanting to fly from NZ to UK, if bmi starts flying LHR-IAH as well.
AirNZ did fly a weekly service between AKL and DFW during the 1980s.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8442 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2878 times:
Quoting Jamincan (Reply 15): I'm quite skeptical that IAH is going to see service from SK, OZ, BD, MS, or NH soon or even in the future. AI, CI, (when it joins star) JJ and LH to MUC all seem like good possibilities.
CI ????? , I thought that CI ( China Airlines ) were supposed to be going to Skyteam ?
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FUN2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 950 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2712 times:
I think we'll see some change for the summer 09 season from CO. They are short 2 772's for EWR>PVG until the new deliveries in Aug. Therefore, they have to focuse on right sizing routes to free those up. I think IAH FRA is a given replacing the 2nd AMS, somehow getting enough a/c to make it daily. For years, anetters have said IAH MAD made sense, and even moreso now, but it will have to wait until 2010+.
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4957 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2392 times:
I think CO will allow LH to have the IAH-FRA runs. I'm sure this will mean year round 744 vs. the previously believed summer seasonal upgrade. I'd like to see an IAH-MUC flight with a 330 or 340 as well.
BOS2LAF From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 366 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2364 times:
When AC announced the job cuts, I started getting very nervous for the US stations staffed by AC, as their collective agreement with the Teamsters is up this year.
From rumblings I've heard, AC has wanted to ditch their staffing at a few of their US stations for quite a while, and IAH has been one of the cities mentioned. I should qualify this by saying that this doesn't come from any official source. Credible, but not official. Its more like watercooler talk... I don't want to start any unnecessary panic on here with US based AC employees.
If IAH gets more AC service as a result of CO joining Star, as some here are predicting, this just might be what saves IAH from the chopping block.
That might be your wishlist, but let's look at what's actually likely.
Snowball's chance in hell: SK and MS
Not very likely: NH, SA
Distinct possibilities: SQ daily, OZ to Seoul, AI to Delhi or Mumbai
Highly probable: AC to Edmonton and Montreal, although more likely with the E-Jet than the A319; LH additional service to FRA, and new service to MUC
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8442 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2329 times:
Quoting Us330 (Reply 23): Distinct possibilities: SQ daily, OZ to Seoul, AI to Delhi or Mumbai
I would also add the possibility of NZ once their 787-9s start arriving - they have previously said that they would consider other gateways in the US with the 787-9s and IAH would be quite well placed for NZ /Australia originating pax as a connecting point for cities without nonstop service on *A from the current gateways of LAX and SFO
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25 COflyerBOS: That's why it's called a wish list... That said, MS has been rumored for years around here to start service to IAH. I am sure things have changed sinc
26 LJ: Unless KLM starts a third AMS-IAH to make sure Skyteam can fulfill its contracts with the oil companies..... I personally wonder if the shift form Sk
27 Ota1: Well, their intention to form an antitrust immunized alliance with UA, AC and LH indicates the opposite. They are actually planning to have similar o
28 AznMadSci: I've never taken the 2nd AMS flight, but has that one been a strong performer? If it has, then I understand keeping it, otherwise, they could use the