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Does CO Have A GS?  
User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2793 posts, RR: 10
Posted (5 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 4790 times:
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Does CO have a level like UA does like Global Services? an "invitation only" level that is based on revenue as well as miles flown and if so, what would you get?

i only fly full fare business for travel, and there is no first class on CO. So how does CO reward their uber flyers?


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 4757 times:

Check out their website... they just made public some upper level info that had, apparently, previously been private. There are million mile levels... I don't remember all the details.

Conti doesn't have first class, it's true. But most US carriers don't. United does, and AA does as well. That's it.

And I have to wonder if those carriers will be able to sustain three class service, considering that neither of them appear able to sustain the familiar service of checked baggage.


User currently offlineJEdward From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 4736 times:

They do have a level about Plat but from what I understand the program is not as developed, or as visible, as UA's GS.


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User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2793 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 4732 times:
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yes, but without systemwide upgrades from AA or UA where is a sky slave supposed to go for a very long haul? i think that CO does not have a true lie flat bed even to china. Just the angled ones. And those seats suck compared to UA's new C seats and First Class seats.
i love CO, but on a long haul, those seats just don't cut it.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21085 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 4710 times:



Quoting VC10er (Reply 3):
yes, but without systemwide upgrades from AA or UA where is a sky slave supposed to go for a very long haul?

Now that they're in Star, they can go to SQ. I'm sure they'll find the service more than satisfactory.  Smile

Quoting VC10er (Reply 3):
those seats suck compared to UA's new C seats and First Class seats.
i love CO, but on a long haul, those seats just don't cut it.

BusinessFirst is getting a little long in the tooth, but I would expect CO to come out with a new product in the next few years. They know that the other US carriers are improving and that they have to keep up.

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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months ago) and read 4621 times:

Conti has pledged to redo cabins when the 787 comes online. Should be interesting to see what they come up with... on the one hand, cabins have made great advances in just the last two years (SQ A380s, Emirates 77W, and now even Delta has nice 772LR's). On the other hand, times are REEEEEEAL BAAAAAD just about now.

User currently offlineCAL764 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4477 times:

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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3143 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 4):
BusinessFirst is getting a little long in the tooth, but I would expect CO to come out with a new product in the next few years. They know that the other US carriers are improving and that they have to keep up.

The new product will come out next year. It was going to wait for the 787 to come on board, but with the delay on their delivery, it will come out late in '09.

CO has taken the right approach to the new product. Customers want those new seats, but certainly aren't willing, for the most part, to pay more for them. DL took out seats to put in their new product, if I understand correctly, and without raising fares, which has cost them revenue. CO does not want to take out any seats and cost revenue, so they've been looking for a seat that will upgrade BF without sacrificing reveneue.

It's coming. There's no need to rush around doing it. BF still brings hope the bacon for CO.


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

CO has an unpublished level called Star. It’s internal jargon - they don’t advertise it nor do they tell FFs who have achieved the status.

User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3552 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2582 times:



Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 8):
CO has an unpublished level called Star. It’s internal jargon - they don’t advertise it nor do they tell FFs who have achieved the status.

Indeed they do and I've seen quite a few passengers that have this level. They do not know they have it and the flight crew don't know why or how they have it.

It allows them to do pretty much whatever they like with regards to perks. If they want to change flight times at the gate... no problem...free upgrade... sure thing. Do you need a hotel because you missed your flight? Here's your room key.


User currently offlineJEdward From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2547 times:



Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 8):
CO has an unpublished level called Star. It’s internal jargon - they don’t advertise it nor do they tell FFs who have achieved the status.

You're kind of off on that - CO * is fluid and based upon a formula where each passenger's revenue contribution
is sorted out and the top producers are recognized. There's no real additional benefits beyond the fact that the front line should try a little harder to help and accommodate such folks.

The real unpublished level CO has - like almost every other airline, hotel, rent-a-car company, etc. - is only given to the CEO/CFO/VIP types and cannot be earned, nor is it published. But unlike CO*, it is a unique level with tangible benefits. If you want to know more I suggest you search the CO forum of Flyertalk.



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User currently offlineLaxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 531 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

I think that they get miles. Also, you will get special deals on certain flights. They will also offer special vacation packages.

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User currently offlineCOFreqFlyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 397 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2298 times:



Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 9):
Indeed they do and I've seen quite a few passengers that have this level. They do not know they have it and the flight crew don't know why or how they have it.

I'd argue that. I have CO* status and know it. Course I also have plat, and have been buying a lot of Y-class tickets lately, that has something to do with it.

Quoting JEdward (Reply 10):
CO * is fluid and based upon a formula where each passenger's revenue contribution
is sorted out and the top producers are recognized.

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User currently offlineTristanHNL From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2006, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2254 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 7):
The new product will come out next year. It was going to wait for the 787 to come on board, but with the delay on their delivery, it will come out late in '09.

CO has taken the right approach to the new product. Customers want those new seats, but certainly aren't willing, for the most part, to pay more for them. DL took out seats to put in their new product, if I understand correctly, and without raising fares, which has cost them revenue. CO does not want to take out any seats and cost revenue, so they've been looking for a seat that will upgrade BF without sacrificing reveneue.

It's coming. There's no need to rush around doing it. BF still brings hope the bacon for CO.

Wow, what great news! I suppose the new BF product will come with the 2 new 772ER that'll be delivered by 2010. Is that correct? And is there any timetable of when the new product will be rolled out to the rest of the international fleet? Any idea what the new seat is like? Thanks!



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2164 times:



Quoting TristanHNL (Reply 13):
Wow, what great news! I suppose the new BF product will come with the 2 new 772ER that'll be delivered by 2010. Is that correct? And is there any timetable of when the new product will be rolled out to the rest of the international fleet? Any idea what the new seat is like? Thanks!

I think the answers to all of your questions are either "No" or "no."

They haven't said much. Delta's been very public, what with the new staggered Y seating, and the fancy-pants business seats (which I think look way more appealing than what they put in the 772LR's). But Continental hasn't said much, that I know of anyway.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2793 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1993 times:
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Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
and now even Delta has nice 772LR's).

maybe im going crazy but the new delta elite seat is just an ordinary recliner with better IFE and nice leather but was soooo disappointing. isn't it just a re-covered old delta seat? i flew BOM to JFK and it wasn't better than a standard UA biz seat. (except for the IFE which needed to be rebooted 3 times during the flight)

all that hype about "the new delta" and all you get is a leather cover, a new digital IFE and some fun prose in the menu. Lipsitck on the pig if you ask me.



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User currently offlineManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1948 times:



Quoting VC10er (Reply 15):
maybe im going crazy but the new delta elite seat is just an ordinary recliner with better IFE and nice leather but was soooo disappointing. isn't it just a re-covered old delta seat? i flew BOM to JFK and it wasn't better than a standard UA biz seat. (except for the IFE which needed to be rebooted 3 times during the flight)

all that hype about "the new delta" and all you get is a leather cover, a new digital IFE and some fun prose in the menu. Lipsitck on the pig if you ask me.

You obviously weren't on a 77L, otherwise you would have noticed a big difference (assuming you were in J class)



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8867 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

CO also has Chairmen's Circle, which is a rather small group of travellers - there is most likely more information on FlyerTalk about this.

User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2793 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1776 times:
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Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 16):

i was on a 777 on return to JFK, frankly i don't recall if was a 777L, but was in the business elite seat up front. it did seem like the old Delta seat in the new blue leather. i must say i was still disappointed that Delta had a shot at doing something breakthrough or even catch-up, but it was just a standard recliner--nothing near a first class lie flat, or even an angled flat. wasnt even as good as the new UA biz seat, it was more like the old UA recliner, except it has a better IFE. Does the Delta 777L have sleeper seats?

i was on LH to BOM in First (upgraded) and while Delta was non-stop i would have preferred LH or UA in first class and made a stop. it was too long a flight for a recliner. it took 2 ambien to make it through!



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8867 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1738 times:



Quoting VC10er (Reply 18):
but it was just a standard recliner--nothing near a first class lie flat, or even an angled flat. wasnt even as good as the new UA biz seat, it was more like the old UA recliner, except it has a better IFE. Does the Delta 777L have sleeper seats?

Generally the 777-200 LRs are on BOM-JFK, but sometimes equipment substitutions do happen and the -ERs do go on the route, which had the old style BusinessElite seats which are similar to the old UA Business Class seats. The new ones are a full lie-flat and look like this:


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User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2793 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1563 times:
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wow, that's more like it. just my luck i got the old seats. i kept scratching my head saying to myself "the new delta???" i will reconsider them again but will check seat guru before i book.
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